Out of curiosity, what was our attendance like during our other 100 loss years? (2004-2006)

You are obsessed with this. You keep ignoring the fact that the season starts in late March now. School isn't out and the weather has generally been cold.

On top of that, the fan base has had a taste of success. In the 2000s they had multiple years of about 1.3 million when they were terrible, and that was when you could literally get upper deck tickets for $5.

2004 was better but remember we were coming off the winning 2003 season and had just signed all those free agents (Juan Gonzalez, Benito Santiago, etc). 2005-06 they drew 1.3 million both years. And that was with way cheaper ticket prices and parking than we have now.

Drama queen fans? So criticism makes someone a drama queen? Blind homerism is much worse than criticism. Everyone was calling for DM and Neds head at the all star break in 2014. Thankfully we went on an absolute tear from July 22nd to August 27th going 26-8 and went from 3rd to 1st place. They lost the lead in September, but they damn near pulled off taking the AL Central going 6-2 in their last 8 games. Started that stretch at 2 games back and ended it at 1. I just like going back and looking at that stuff, but my point is that had they not gotten hot then DM may not have been here the next year. Man looking back at that year our O was pretty bad, not one guy with 20 HRs or even 80 RBIs. But the pitching staff more than made up for it that year. That bullpen was other worldly

Oh, I agree that blind homerism is out there abundantly. IMHO, it's part of the makeup of a drama queen fan. They are so damn quick to bitch about something, anything that has gone wrong and yet have no idea how to fix it. They are quick to call for the quick executions with a lost game forgetting the facts that players,coaches and management are just as imperfect as they are. Yet they want to boast in the glory that they might know something or are pissed off about a certain player and /or game ect.

Yes 2014 was a good example, yet even the decent season of 2013 when we finished strong there were people calling for Ned's and DM's heads. Even during the 2015 season there were plenty of members here calling Ned stupid, Ned doesn't know how to use HDH, etc. or that DM needs to get rid of this guy, bring up this guy, etc. Even during the during 2016 we heard them calling out how stupid Ned and DM were.

Let's face it, some people you just can not please. FTR, you can not please them if you hung them with a new rope. :D

I called this out 2 years ago and you were nowhere to be found.

PB was very much calling this two years ago as well.

Go to 1977 and look up the attendance numbers per game early season. Or any random year actually.

No. You’re the one making the point so why don’t you look up the data and post it for us. That’s how it works.

There was zero buzz for opening day this year and nobody talks about the Royals now.

Funny to think just a few years ago people were claiming KC is a baseball town.

Still dont get why they cut Brian Goodwin for Duda and also have Gore on the roster. In 20 abs has a 1.155 ops. Crushed a HR over 450 ft the other night.

Makes no sense to lose 4 years control for Garbage man Duda.

THIS!!!!!!

So ****ing stupid it makes my brain want to explode. Gore and Duda are equally complete wastes of space.

PSA - keep DC shit in DC. Thanks in advance.

It's a baseball town when they're winning.

Asked and answered. Weather is normally shitty this time of year and it makes no diff if it’s a week earlier.



That makes it worse. The management and even the owner deserve some slack as they rebuild. 2 pennants isn’t enough to est any cred with the fan base? It’s beyond pathetic.

Well, I guess Zimmer already wore out his welcome. That was fast...

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All that time holding on to him as he rehabbed, only to DFA him on April 8th when he's finally ready. I'm assuming there is more to this story.

I believe he was just optioned, but it still sucks to see literally the only bullpen arm with any hope of a future with this team is already being sent down. Along with getting rid of Goodwin and giving playing time to Duda and Owings it's really hard to have faith that Moore and Yost know what they're doing.

Yet Owings and Duda are still with the club along with McCarthy, Diekman etc? Doesn’t make a lot of sense.

Yes, thank you for the correction. I jumped to a conclusion there, lol.

Agree 100% on the rest.

Omg, sources are telling me DM caught Zimmer watching porn on his phone!!!

But in all seriousness, how can anyone still defend DM? He needs to be gone, but he will never be fired since he won a championship. Why in the **** do you send Zimmer down? Maybe because DM has a hard time admiring he made a mistake with all the trash he signed for the bullpen. None of them are worth keeping, so just because he wanted to bring someone else up doesn't mean he had to send down the guy with the best stuff. I absolutely cannot stand Moore or Yost. They're just a couple of idiots that got lucky and won a WS.

The only reason I can think they would send him down is that they're trying to build him back up as a potential starter. What they saw of him (minus the four straight walks, smdh) was enough to convince them that he still has starter potential and they wanted to get him some reps in Omaha there along with building his stamina back up? Total spitball thought, but that's the best I can come up with.

Listening to Neds sound clip from today about Zimmer makes me furious. That ****ing idiot should be fired along with DM. Basically said Zimmer didn't earn any opportunities. I hate this organization so much. He had 3 appearances and went scoreless in 2 of those. There is literally no reason Zimmer should not be in the majors. The ****ing reeruns running this organization look more incompetent by the day.

He has no control on his off-speed pitches. What he’s doing isn’t sustainable and he’s getting sent down to find his command. It’s a perfectly fine move for the time being. I’ll bet you he’s back within a month, given that he finds his command and is able to throw his curve for strikes like he showed in spring training. Take a breath man.

Lucky, yeah happens to all the MLB teams, lucky is as good as good!

You do fly off the wallpaper everyday about something sports! While I love your passion, I question your overall understanding on how big league teams work?

I'm not convinced you might think we paid MLB off to fool all of MLB fans and teams over our success 2014 through 2016, that KC got special treatment and they along with MLB pulled off the " Biggest Scam Ever "! Are you aware that we would have had t have all MLB teams on board with this to pull it off ?

I am awaiting for you to call this someday because, GMDM and HCNY is just plain stupid!

How old are you ?
You married ?
Do you have anger issues with your family?

As C3HIEF3S said, Breath man, relax a little!

Bold prediction: I will stop making bold predictions for a while.

I disagree. Gore is a game-changer as a late-inning pinch running option. Duda, however, makes no sense. Especially when there are already two 1B on the team.

Gore is a game changer on a contender, as he and Dyson were for us in '15. Well, this team ain't the '15 team....

Gore’s a funny car in a funeral procession right now.

Catching up:
The attendance is disappointing. The city supports the team very well from the confines of the couch. I think that maybe the taste of success is hammering attendance now.

That’s the price they pay for having five years of contention and then falling back.

It will get better as the year goes on, but considering how down it is now, it’s tough to see it going to real heights.

Re: boring old guys instead of vets

I said it was defensible to a point. They have careened past that point at breakneck speed.

Owings and Duda are getting far too much run.

Re: the bullpen
It looked like Zimmer lost the feel for his curve. He needs to have that to be successful in the majors. Hopefully this is a short stint.

They may have also wanted to get a “long” guy in Sparkman available for this week.

I look forward to the second half, when the pen should feature Zimmer and Staumont and Lovelady.

Fair enough. But is there anybody who needs to be on the roster from whom Gore is stealing playing time? I'd rather get rid of Owings, Duda, and pretty much any relief pitcher than Gore.

LOL

29!

Batting practice

This team refuses to hold a lead now....

Up 2-0

Tied 2-2

Up 4-2

Tied 4-4

And now we are losing..again...2-2run leads blown....

Tim Hill...why does he still pitch for this team?

Down 3, with the bases still loaded.

Pathetic!

And 30 seconds later, we're now trailing by 5.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say our bullpen is still not very good.

Pen has allowed 5 runs I believe already..maybe 4. And that's with only recording 1 out...

Okay so the Pen is only charged with 2 runs so far this inning and both were to Hill. Bailey has been charged with 7 runs tonight

You guys are using Homer Bailey in a major league game? That's a hell of a tanking strategy.

Chris Owings > Homer Bailey

Encarnacion hits another bomb.

Didn’t even make it two weeks before they’re done

JFC well now the Pen has been charged with 5....

Yeah, the sad part is I don't think Dayton was trying to tank. He really thought Homer Bailey was the best thing available.

What happened to McCarthy? He used to be nails and consistently down in the zone all the time

That was pulverized. McCarthy's ERA is almost to 20.

What is the bullpen's ERA this year? Is it over 100 yet?

Oh my goodness.

Nothing quite like letting a guy hit 2 homers in 1 inning, bringjng a lurker like me out. Pathetic

Holy crap. Back the the basketball game.

I'm not sure, but this could reach historic levels if this keeps up for another few series.

In reality, it's actually like 9.75... which even for the small sample size is horrific.

This is what half a decade of shit drafts and mostly shit IFA signings will do.

Hi Hootie!

If we wanna have KC back to a baseball town, we need to find Dane.

Dayton Moore being the GM of a team that was one win away from back-to-back World Series is one of the most amazing things I've ever seen in sports.

We went from a 4-2 lead, to a 12-4 deficit.

Sad!

When you get one cohesive unit off of porn and focused on baseball, anything is possible.

Wow they suck.

Just checked the box score.

LMAO

wrong thread

wrong thread

Fire Dayton Moore. It’s the only way....

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Lucky does happen alot in baseball. Ball hits a rock/clump of dirt and takes a bad/good bounce that's luck. Outfielder drops a pop up and allows a score thats luck. Ball just happens to get hit just in the right spot that goes between the 3rd baseman and short stop thats luck.

Luck plays a role in baseball both on and off the field. Dayton Moore made a ton of trades, but was lucky enough to hit on a couple trades and a few reclamation projects around the same time. Outside of 2011-2015 he's been pretty terrible at getting talent.

Not into conspiracy theories. It's not all that crazy to think we lucked into winning a WS.

Im 29, not married, but am happily taken. I have 2 daughters. No anger issues with the family, besides occasionally tossing my kids off the balcony, but im real sorry for doin it.

Good thing we sent Zimmer down to work on his curve. Wouldn't want him working on it in the majors. It might make our BP suck.

BTW I believe the Royals now have the second worst Bullpen ERA behind only the Nationals.

Terrance Gore got a hit.

Royals should trade for Gearrin. He would fit right in.

T-Bones should sign him to a 3 year, $2,500 deal.

At least we may be able to finally get that #1 overall pick. The depressing part is that other than Nicky Lopez and some bullpen arms there are still probably zero reinforcements arriving any time soon.

Who takes credit for the bullpen? It's like these dudes just fell out of a tree.




Stand.

Isbel, Pratto, Melendez, Gigliotti, Singer, Kowar, Lynch, Lovelady, Matias.

This will be a nice long rebuild.....like 30 years or so.

And they're all in A ball, hence they're nowhere close to the big league team. They'd have to skip a level or be promoted much faster than what is typical for Royals minor leaguers to get here before 2021 or 2022.

I wouldn't say that, just not a lot to be excited about and no real talent arriving for a while still.