OK then, what should they have done different? Whats this due diligence you speak of?

I mean you obviously know, lets hear it.

Oh yeah, it's definitely hindsight, no doubt about it.

Had they done their due diligence, I'd say yes.

If he can't practice and it's been shown that time off won't heal it. Then all they've done is wasted precious time to heal and be ready next year.

John Wall has battled this for years supposedly but got to a point where it was too painful and they did surgery immediately. I'd say if Berry can't play, practice without pain... it's time.

Besides, how much can you really expect Berry to make an impact when he's on a snap count and has been out during the most critical times of games. Hasn't played most of the year and is obviously in pain.

The Chiefs were in a lose lose situation with Berry. Re-sign him and overpay the shit out of him. Or let him walk and get roasted by the fanbase and media for letting a cancer survivor walk.

**** it. Let em. It ain't getting any easier from here on out so might as well cut it off now and not prolong the agony.

JFC

Chiefs gambled on whether to IR him or not...and they lost. He was going to get paid either way. It was a calculated move...I've never heard of a player missing an entire season over having a sore heel.

Would have been nice to get DAT back for the post-season.

Surgery should have been done a year ago while he was rehabbing the other foot. The heel issues are not new to Berry in 2018. He should have had repairs done to both feet. As I mentioned before, Troy Tulowitzki had repairs done on both feet, so don't tell me it's not possible to repair both at the same time.

Yep.

Exactly.

Just an unfortunate situation. Shit happens. We just gotta move on and play football with the guys we have.

I don't have a problem with seeing if it will heal, but once they got into October and it wasn't getting better, just go ahead and have surgery.

Or get some help at the trade deadline.

They tried.

Their help broke his leg.

Dude.....they ****ing tried to get Earl Thomas and he broke his leg. Exactly what else were they going to do? Collins?

Just like they did against Jacksonville?

They only put up 21 last week...and finished the last 35 minutes without scoring a point.

Texans shut them down after a fast start..

Yep, their ability to both run and pass effectively will make it very difficult for our defense. They also don't make many mistakes either. They are going to score 40+. The Colts defense is just good enough to stop us every so often.

We need Watkins on offense and Houston, Jones, and Ford to bring a dominant pass rush to win.

They tried trading for Earl Thomas and/or Landon Collins.

I don't understand all the hatred towards him, any one of us that had been through what he has would be questioning whether continuing to play through pain and likely further injuries was worth it. He may only be trying to prolong the inevitable because he's being paid all that money.

Its completely speculation that his sore heal caused the achilles tear in the other foot. But let's assume for a minute you are correct, you really think they just ignored it? Seriously? They are paying the guy $13MM a year and they decided to just ignore it? Thats laughable.

You act like your dumb ass that works at Dunkin Donuts or whatever has some insight that actual medical professionals don't have.

The only benefit you have over the team and the medical staff is hindsight.

Collins or Clinton Dix.

LMAO @ the ironic misspelling

He'll need to heal that heel or he'll be going to hell.

I still like Berry, but I am guessing we have one more year with him then eat the dead cap and cut him after next season?

If its a heal situation, Oral Roberts could help.......

I like Eric Berry. I love Eric Berry. I think he’d be a clear HOF safety if not for these injuries. The guy is a warrior.

He’s clearly injured. We can all speculate to the extent of it. We can all speculate what procedures he should’ve had and when and whose decision that ultimately was. We. Know. Nothing.

It’s unfortunate. We’re all disappointed. There’s no doubt in my mind the guy wants to play and be there - his whole life has been football and his NFL career of the last two seasons has in part been that of a Chiefs cheerleader. Hence he’s still on the sidelines and the defensive players still show appropriate deference.

It’s unfortunate. I hope he can go this weekend. I’ll be disappointed if it’s not possible. Very frustrated. But we move on, folks.

Lets look at the positive of this situation.

Best case scenario, KC makes it to the Superbowl and then FINALLY has surgery to repair the haglunds deformity. It should only sideline him 6-8 months. However if you take into account previous injuries KC has had to deal with. I wouldn't be surprised if he misses more time next year.

So we'd be 3 years into a contract with him playing what, 2 full games maybe? ROFL

Just want to let it be known, I'm not really blaming Berry. Just the entire situation seems fitting as a Chiefs fan.

HaHa Clinton-Dix and Golden Tate should be Chiefs right now.

They would have helped make up for the injuries to Berry and Watkins. They could have made the difference in going to the Super Bowl. Once again we weren't aggressive enough.

Too negative again, sorry.

Go CHIEFS!!! Super Bowl bound!! Mahomes is God!!!

In what bizarro world was this team trading for Golden Tate?

Before relevant questions, go read all of his posts

I never said the sore heel caused the Achilles tear in the other foot. In all likelihood he probably had issues with both heels, possibly Haglund in both. It's almost impossible that his heel pain in this foot isn't the same issue from a year ago. Either he or the team decided rehabbing it was the best course of action. Clearly they were wrong.

Dunkin Donuts? At least give me some credit. I'm an accountant. It's not a glamorous job, but it pays the bills.

God, you’re dumb. Clinton-Dix? Sure. Tate? Even if you were playing Madden, that would be stupid. This isn’t negative so much as ridiculous.

Why Tate?

**** Berry if he isn't going to play. What was the point of keeping him on the active roster then. Should have just had the surgery since he can't handle the pain.

Because they thought he was going to be able to play. Why is common sense so difficult for people?

Likewise

The difference is he would have just missed this season and would have hopefully been ready to return at the start of next season.

Now if he has the surgery, with an 8-10 month recovery time, he will miss at least the start (and probably more) of next season.

I think that the loss of Watkins significantly changed our offense. Watkins kept defenses from doubling Kelce and Hill at the same time. Golden Tate would have provided the same protection.

I look back and see how our offense changed when Watkins and LDT got hurt. We were still productive but it was much more of a struggle. Then we lost Kareem Hunt. More and more was being dumped on the back of Mahomes.

Our offense is still great but it would be much smoother with a strong #2 receiver.

One positive about losing Watkins was how it sped up the development of Mahomes. He had to learn how to carry our team very early on.

All it is a pain management issue. If he couldn't go at anytime in the first half of the season they should have just put him on IR so he could have had the surgery.

John Wall played with this same exact issue for 5 seasons until he couldn't handle it anymore and had surgery. Berry should have done the same.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> LB Dorian O&#39;Daniel doutbful vs. Colts. S Eric Berry, WR Sammy Watkins and RB Spencer Ware all listed as questionable.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1083469849601474563?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This kind of shit actually pisses me off

Everything screams doubtful yet they list him as questionable just to give a little tiny bit of ****ing hope

(Their guess is probably as good as ours).

We're gonna get raped by RBs coming out of the backfield.

Found this tweet from Berry's agent from the middle of December - seems like he's a bit on the defensive?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">He’s always done what he says he’s going to do... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKindgom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKindgom</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Berrystrong?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Berrystrong</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TNF?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TNF</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/Mp58K7DoRa">https://t.co/Mp58K7DoRa</a></p>&mdash; Chad Speck (@a3Chad) <a href="https://twitter.com/a3Chad/status/1073290178855358464?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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We need to be like the chargers and put dbs out there instead of linebackers

Not true at all they do this to keep the other team guessing whether a player will play or not. Every team does it.

I wouldn't worry about it. Whoever is out there on Sunday is who we will roll with and the Chiefs will be ready to go! That's all that matters.

How long does "day to day" allowed to continue?

It's been 2 years. At least have the decency to go on IR until you can contribute.

We play Saturday, ya dingus.

Wait....wtf...Eric Berry had surgery in December?

No. It's a retweet. From Sept 17, 2017

That video is from 2017.

oooohhhhhh

That video is from last season.

I'm beginning to believe that Berry refuses to take painkillers.

Not saying its right or he should do that but its the only thing that makes sense.

Oh my. Watkins was injured in the Browns game which was after the trade deadline. Do you even try to make logical arguments?

They put 3 safeties out at linebacker but our safeties suck too much to play linebacker.

We need to go the exact opposite direction. Put more pass rushers out there because those are our better players. 5-2-4.

Houston, Jones, Williams, Nnadi, Ford

Hitchens,O'Daniel (hope he can play)

Fuller,Ward,Nelson (nickle)

Sorenson as only safety


Hope our pass rush can protect our shitty secondary

Berry hasn't played 95% of the season. It was just hopeful thinking that he could pull a Sanders.

The bigger disppointment is Watkins. I don't see him playing a snap when he hasn't had a full practice in over a month.

Eric Berry already got his ****ing money when he was a goddamn rookie. That contract was ****ing huge. Then he got cancer and we continued to pay his salary when we didn't have to. It's great that he roared back in his recovery and all, but Dorsey was clearly aware of what cancer does to a body. He wanted to protect the franchise and the business, which he's supposed to do. Unfortunately for him, he decided to do it against a cancer survivor, and that got him fired.

So Berry gets even more money. Lots of it. Guaranteed. He didn't need that 5 year deal. He didn't need ALL of that guaranteed money. But he sure as **** put up a fuss about it after how he was supposedly mistreated by the franchise. He got it, and then this shit happened to him. His body broke down.

When football (and all sports, really) are such a team game, yeah, you'd like to side with the players, but every time a guy gets paid, it takes away the flexibility to acquire other great players who can help us win more games. Playoff games, specifically. Home playoff games where 90% of the fanbase would mud wrestle their own grandmothers for a home playoff win, particularly against a team that just so happens to wreck their shit in agonizing ways.

And when a guy GOT paid in his rookie deal, and got paid when the team didn't have to, and then threw a tantrum until he got paid again LONGTERM, and when the shit we were afraid of paying him for actually happened, business is handled in this cryptic "day-to-day" way when the defense is absolute ****ing dogshit and could (and probably will) cost us a Super Bowl victory...

Well, fans get sick of that shit. At that point, the player who deserved to get paid (even though he already got his money) loses their respect. If he were just on the field but his play quality had gone down a couple notches (like Houston) there wouldn't be the backlash. Instead, we get tweets about his spirit and the same coaches "day to day" line. He didn't play 95% of the ****ing season and we were told "day-to-day". And he can't even retire without still ****ing us over capwise.

That's how bullshit his contract was. He hung out the franchise who cared for him out to ****ing dry. Yeah, the NFL is a business, BUT HE ALREADY GOT HIS ****ING MONEY. Berry was flat-out vindictive in that contract Clark negotiated.

He's not gonna be back. If he does get this thing fixed and is his old self again, great, but at this point, not even Marcellus is predicting that will happen.

He lost my respect. He's financially comfortable. He's cancer-free. So excuse ****ing me for comparing him to a tool or a machine that's just about at the end of its usefulness and needs to be thrown away. But that's basically what his career is now.

ROFL

What if Reid is pulling the old rope-a-dope with Berry just to throw off the Colts game planning? I would assume that game planning for the Chiefs with Berry and without Berry are two different things? That's something ol' Belicheck would do!

Wishful thinking at its best

Don't do this to yourself.

But how do you REALLY feel?

Haglunds

Is this the thread I come to shit on Eric Berry in?

This whole Eric Berry saga should serve as a life -long reminder to Clark, to NEVER AGAIN get involved with any contract negotiations to the same extent he did with Berry. In fact as a reminder, someone needs to tatoo the word HAGLUNDS on his forhead.

Meanwhile Haglunds is pulling coin and the rest of the defense are pulling their dicks.

TakeLoadsOrally don’t forget this one ^

was that a hospital bed?

Yeah. It was before the surgery to repair his Achilles.

What extent was Clark involved ?

I've been over this way too many times. You do the research. That way you can answer your own question and learn something.

Oh, I'm not putting much stock into it. The only reason I even entertained the idea was because Reid didn't just flat rule him out.

I figure even if he doesn't play, listing him as questionable at least forces Indy to game plan for him a little bit just in case he can go.

Social media reports that Berry is out for Saturday’s game.

You must not have because he didn't respond to that one. He'd be all over you if you hadn't made a strong point.

It's not complicated. LDT plays on a unit that can and has replaced him decent enough. Berry plays on a unit that is horrible without him. Shocking that people are more emotional and desperate for Berry to play. Just shocking. Must be a race thing....

Of course he is.

Yur right, They handled it the only way they could have. They can not force him to have surgery when it popped up in TC. They all expected it to calm down and he would play. He would show signs of getting better, then pow, it happens, all season long!


Honestly. you are acting like the dumbass here


Bingo, spot on, it's all they could do. The doctors were telling him he would be able to play.

It's wasted time either way, they fully expected him to play this year.

This ! it is what it is!


It can, but he heel was not bothering him during the off season. No need to fix something that didn't need to be fixed at the time.
Do you make care repairs when you don't have any issues with it?

Yep, when it was apparent to the FO, they tried to get some help. NYG wanted too much for Collins. They priced him high enough that they figured they will keep him.

I've been a Berry supporter but I'm done if he doesn't play. Just eat the cap hit and get someone in that'll play next year. What a waste of talent. Eric - enjoy your multi million dollar life and do charity events.

Chiefs*coach Andy Reid was non-committal about Berry's status after he sat out another practice Thursday, simply offering that his star safety is "day by day, same thing it's been throughout the year."

JFC coach stop that shit. It's basically a running joke now. Such bullshit.

Based on how the Chiefs handle the "questionable" designation, there's still a better-than 60% chance that he'll play. Sammy "Feets" Watkins, too.

Feets don't fail us now.

FAX

So one guy costing the team 13.5m to sit on the sidelines is GOOD? Because apparently that seems to be the case considering the same clowns crying over Berry are silent about LDT. BOTH are missing games and BOTH cost a lot of money for their respective positions. But yet only ONE gets grief!!!...

Apples v oranges. Berry has been cleared to play all season and has held himself out. Big difference.