<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bill &quot;McConaughey&quot; Self<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KULateNight?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KULateNight</a> <a href="https://t.co/GqmC42CFPO">pic.twitter.com/GqmC42CFPO</a></p>&mdash; Kansas Basketball (@KUHoops) <a href="https://twitter.com/KUHoops/status/1045843107915296768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 29, 2018</a></blockquote>
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That was outstanding!

That video was awesome. I loved that they brought back the “Dream On” video.

We have had the top college BB player talent. Lottery pick talent. But, the overall talent level, the starting 5 and off the bench players that will see substantial minutes seems to be the most naturally talented team that Self has ever had. At least in my memory.

KU gonna miss Svi and Graham draining 3's

God damn they were great shooters

Some of the best KU's ever had.

Obligatory "Sasha Kaun still sucks" post.

There...

I got it out.

Agreed. And Graham made a lot of plays on his own.

Hopefully they can trade up some for some defense though.

Things could get ugly for Silvio De Sousa.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2018/o...ge-basketball/

When they say Silvio De Sousa, they are talking about his guardian taking money. One interesting thing about this whole thing is that Silvio was 18 years old at the time,. At what point does responsibility of a guardian end? Was he actually a legal guardian even - or was he just informally his guardian?

As we saw from the Cam Newton ordeal - even when it was his DAD - Auburn faced no major violations from what I recall.

So true, guess we'll see soon.

As we continue to gain each year on UK for all time wins, I don't want anything to derail this momentum we have going.

I don't see them doing anything to the schools I'm this situation

I wonder how this goes down. His guardian denies receiving any payments. Wouldn't there need to be a paper trail establishing that the guardian or DeSousa received the money?

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/co...208552144.html

Probably not. But I would hate to lose him as a player. I was excited to watch him this year.

I also don't understand how someone can accept payment for someone else and then get them in trouble

In this case, He's going to Maryland, then not. He undoubtedly had questions why he was switching to KU. The funds they got from Under Armour, how was it used, what did he get out of it, etc.

Many questions if you get down to it.

You can sign legally binding contracts once you are 18. So outside of Power of Attorney for someone who is say mentally incapacitated, I don't think you have a legal guardian after your 18 birthday.

I hope that loophole is the reason Self played De Sousa.

I would say this comes under what you consider reasonable doubt.

Sure, it might have been a complete coincidence that my brother-in-law might have decided to invest half his life savings in a company just a few days before my company made a public take-over bid for that company.

Or the SEC could fine/convict me for insider trading...

That Self hasn't cut DeSousa gives me some hope, but I can't say I am very optimistic.

At least the amount of money for DeSousa isn't as crazy as some of the other amounts being thrown around.

Any sniff of improper benefits sat players instantly in the past.

I would be extremely surprised that Self knew about this, knew about the FBI investigation and then rushed De Sousa in and played him when he really didn't need to.

:(

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...sa-recruitment

I'm no lawyer, but it looks to me like they knew adidas was trying to recruit the guy.

This looks like not much here.

DeSousa to sit on the bench pending an eligibility review.

Sucks because I think he was going to develop into a really nice player for us. Doubt he'll ever wear a KU uniform again.

However, based on rumblings from the summer and early fall practices, he was going to be about option #2 or 3 off the bench. Definitely was behind Mitch and had fallen behind McCormack recently.

what the ****...:cuss:

Well...if De Sousa is ineligible, thank God it’s this year when we have plenty of depth.

http://amp.kansascity.com/sports/col...220538450.html

Kansas sophomore forward Silvio De Sousa will be held out of competition while an eligibility review is conducted, Jayhawks coach Bill Self announced Wednesday.

De Sousa and his recruitment have been discussed in a federal trial relating to corruption in college basketball.

“Information was presented during the current trial in New York — some of which we knew, some of which we didn’t,” Self said in a news release. “We have decided to withhold Silvio from competition until we can evaluate and understand the new information. We have already discussed trial developments with the NCAA and will continue to work with NCAA staff moving forward.”

lol duh

Why did they wait so long? It's not fair to the kid. Tell him immediately so he knows what to do.

I’m sure as soon as his name showed up they put him at the back of the line.
He can’t do anything except got international.

That's what I don't get - if Self and KU were aware of the payments and everything that happened, why were they so steadfast in saying he would play up until now?

IIRC, the initial report came out during the tournament last year. I doubt Self would want to risk vacating a FF, given that they sat Preston as soon as they caught wind of anything.

Because nobody knew about it then. People know about it now. The end.

Nobody knew about Preston, and he was held out.

I agree with this. No reason to play him if there was any chance it would vacate anything.

KU obviously found something when they dug into the details around Preston's car.

So I don't follow the recruiting/offseason that closely but, wow.

I know De Sousa looked a little raw but I thought he had a really nice combination of size and athleticism. And had that certain smoothness. Great news if the team is talented enough to push him that deep on the bench.

But with the investigation and being that deep on the bench, he should just go play overseas.

I think most people, not just KU fans, consider this the most talented team Self has had in a long time. Self is already publicly comparing Grimes to Deron Williams. Before a single game is played.

Selfs starting lineup?
Doke
Grimes
Lawson
Dotson
Vick


WTF is Vick doing starting with all that talent left on the bench?

Unless they’re Wiggins type talent he will almost always defer to the upper class Kent.

KU lost their plausible deniability after what happened with Preston's car.

Carlton Bragg was released from KU after they found coke in his room.


Me, I prefer Pepsi.

What on earth does this mean

I have a really hard time believing he was behind Lightfoot and McCormack. In fact, I think he could've been better than Azubuike this year.

It's pretty clear that KU knew that Gassnola was their "fixer". I'm not condemning KU, this seems to be standard operating procedure for College Hoops. Even ****ing Maryland had a fixer through under armor.

KU knew Gassnola was "their guy" - but didn't want any direct confirmation or a paper trail with how he got guys to KU.

When Preston wrecked his car, KU found the payments Gassnola approved for Preston's family when looking up Preston's financial accounting. After finding that direct evidence, KU could not play Preston any longer.

With De Sousa, KU never had that "confirmation" that he received any money from Gassnola. This gave them plausible deniability throughout the entire Adidas trial. They would not have had this plausible deniability had they played Preston after the car accident.

Ah... gotcha. Yep.

Not really - as soon as it came to light they launched an investigation and never played him. They actually didnt even have to do anything. That is the only silver lining in this and may help them with the NCAA.

The most damning thing to me is the taped convo with Kurtis Townsend and the Adidas rep talking about Zion. That convo alone could entice the NCAA to take some schollies away.

Who deserves to start over Vick?

Vick deserves to start. Im surprised Dotson is starting already. I thought the staff would make him work for it. Dotson has by far more potential at that position and hes super quick. I do like Moores game though. Hes quite a spark plug and looks like a scorer.

I thought his mom was a stripper or escort or something and they couldn’t find a paper trail because of illegally earned income

Why? Just because he was talking about doing something to get him here. It could have been finding the guy a job. That conversation didn't necessarily be about paying him cash

I'll see if I can find an article - texts released between Preston and his mom during the trial seem to suggest otherwise.

I was surprised by that too. It’s probably a good sign for us that Dotson is starting though. He has a very high upside, so he must also be catching on quickly.

The team looked super sloppy overall. The talent and depth is clearly there though. Once they figure out how to play as a team, they’ll be scary.

I think Doke will need to get used to playing with another big. He’s never really done that at Kansas, and he probably never played with another true big even in high school.

What the **** was their big men's deal with putting the ball on the floor. They just turn around they have a high percentage shot instead of dribble the ball once to gain no position. Lawson and his brother look crazy good. Mitch Lightfoot can windmill and 360 dunk which was weird. Warming up Lawson dunked one and his head was well above the rim.

The spacing and communication was bad. I think that threw the big guys off their game. All very correctable.

My senior year at KU (2012), we looked awful against Fort Hays State. Withey got stripped like 5 times by small guys. I think Elijah Johnson, Tyshawn Taylor, and T Rob we’re out for that game. They eventually figured it out and made the Final Four.

Self will get it fixed.

Given how much of a liability Azubuike's free throw shooting was, I was certainly hoping that De Sousa could take over especially late in games, Not that I consider myself the greatest talent scout, but it sure looked to me like he had a huge upside. I was bummed when the scandal came to light. But if De Sousa is the only causality that KU faces, that would probably be getting off lightly.

Dear lord. No, she was not a stripper. She was a floor manager at a swank Beverly Hills restaurant and the lack of a paper trail is due to most of her income being on tipouts which are cash-based and routinely under-reported to avoid taxes.

Shake my head.

Anyone watching the TCU game tho

Yes, I can't find our football thread! LOL

1:11 left, KU with the ball and a 3 pts lead, it's a conf.game too!:eek:

Anyone have a stream link? Reddit doesn't work for college games.

KU Wins.

About the only good thing happened for the State of Kansas today.

**** if I know. That’s just what I heard from someone in Lawrence.

FWIW you’re still supposed to pay tax on tips.

Anyone else. I'm assuming you watched the games last year. I advocated that he would be drafted by the NBA if he went into the draft.


He dogged it way too many times. Seemed like he only tried his best when he got benched or a chance at a big dunk.
I understand Self's long history of tending to start seniors. But, Vick is different. He left. No intention of coming back. Poor play last year. Self basically said he wasnt welcomed back if he didn't go pro.

He should have to earn the start on the court because of his history. But, I trust Bill Self. He's still the best coach in college BB.

I don't think Vick's problem was with effort. I think his problem was with not being very good at basketball.

As long as he can shoot, though, I get why Self would start him.

Vick came on pretty strong at the end of last season plus players tend to take it up a notch as seniors.

Self brought him back under the condition that he'd have to give effort and earn a starting role. Reports have been that the attitude and effort is there. Self wouldn't hand him an unearned starting role when he has this much depth. Last year he had no choice but to play him.

Like I said, in Bill I trust.

This is the 3rd time in Self's 15 years we are the #1 AP team preseason


How many times did that happen the prior 55 years?

Lester Earl's kid commits to Villanova over KU. 5* PF Class of 2019.

Collateral damage

That ****ing stings.

Good...don't need anymore of that genetic trash on the court.

Lester Earl's kid can shoot threes? If not - why is he going to Villanova?

Collateral damage?

I think he’s suggesting the FBI investigation caused him to choose Nova.

Yikes

KU accepted $1.5M in extra payments from Adidas, then wouldn't answer simple questions about it. When we filed a records request, KU cited "personnel limitations." Now, an outright refusal to share info with the public: https://t.co/Qg86qGASdw https://t.co/lx2d3Zu7FO

Soooo Adidas was like - hey want some more money? And KU is like - ummm - yeah cool of course. What is the issue? Sounds like Adidas values KU's relationship.

Villanova is not under current investigations and can hand out $$ that KU can't.

I don't really know why we care about one-and-dones that much anyway. Give me a guy like Frank Mason or Devonte Graham over Wiggins, Embiid, Diallo, Oubre, Alexander, Selby, Henry all day everyday. You get them 4 years. There is probably something to be said about finding underized guards that won't be on the NBA radar but will be extremely valuable in college. We haven't really even had success in terms of the one-and-done recruit effecting our wins and losses like Duke and UK have.

I'd pay the next Frank Mason $5,000 out of my pocket to go to KU for four years. I'd only pay Zion Williamson $10 dollars. Let's start a go fund me to commit NCAA violations. Perhaps we can just start a community "venmo" and give the kids the password so they can have some spending money :)

Oh man KU in troublez!!!!!11

KU gets millions from adidas

CornFugger football gives millions to Scot Frost