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Womble 08-22-2023 06:42 PM
****ing love Burnt Quiche!

mdchiefsfan 08-22-2023 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by nicksdad (Post 17068209)
well.... when the national pundits crapped all over the chiefs for both selecting mahomes AND the draft capital they gave up , it was all Dorsey . when smith started at QB the next year and people thought they should have helped the defense it was all Dorsey. when Dorsey got canned ( and he sucked at people skills AND cap management / contracts) and a relatively unknown and unproven Veach took over THEN AND ONLY THEN did the "Veach as a scout is the only scout in nfl history who is responsible for his GM's draft pick" myth arrive. timing is everything in life. , don't get mesmerized by the laundry and attempt to think critically. or just keep washing the wrinkles right out of Veach's balls . be my guest
John Dorsey, is that you?

smithandrew051 08-22-2023 07:29 PM
If this thread reaches 100 posts, carcosa will tell us the GM of his favorite professional football team.

Bl00dyBizkitz 08-22-2023 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17068247)
You do realize we have actual first hand accounts of all parties involved, right?
Didn't Dorsey want more power/control when negotiating his next contract and made it a decision between him and Reid? Or am I just making this up?

I do know that people just hate working with the guy, that much I think has been pretty well documented.

nicksdad 08-22-2023 07:42 PM
If you can’t refute the argument call names . Cool .

Bl00dyBizkitz 08-22-2023 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by nicksdad (Post 17068628)
If you can’t refute the argument call names . Cool .
Draft - L'Jarius Sneed, Willie Gay, Trey Smith, Creed Humphrey, Nick Bolton, Isaiah Pacheco.

Free Agency - Frank Clark, Tyrann Mathieu, Joe Thuney Orlando Brown Jr, Justin Reid, JJSS, MVS

Thats not including the multitude of solid role players that contributed to us winning, as well as multiple young guys/newly signed free agents that haven't proved themselves.

Chris Meck 08-22-2023 08:31 PM
Dorsey was a good drafter.

of course, Veach was his head scout, no?

But Dorsey was shit at cap management, and is apparently such an asshole that nobody wants to work with him, despite being a really good personnel guy.

So whatever.

BWillie 08-22-2023 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by nicksdad (Post 17067942)
You mean the Dorsey who drafted four of NFL.com top ten players in the league ? That Dorsey ? And don’t start in this Veach gets credit for Mahomes myth .
I feel bad for Nick.

TwistedChief 08-22-2023 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17068697)
I feel bad for Nick.
At last. BWillie on the side of good rather than troll.

This guy picked a very odd Dorsey-ish hill to die upon.

JPH83 08-23-2023 01:09 AM
It's wild that a guy who drafted Mahomes, Hill, Kelce and Jones gets so little credit. I'd much rather have Veach but JFC those draft picks are insane and absolutely essential to our SBs.

I agree Veach is an all-round better GM and any sustained success is on him. But I'm happy to give that insufferable p**** Dorsey his dues as well.

Rainbarrel 08-23-2023 05:11 AM
A QB was not just dumped in Andy Reid's lap. Then he was told to develop him. With out Reid's input, giving up the picks and Andy's time to work with him. Hunt's money. The GM at the time is not relevant

Dunerdr 08-23-2023 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17068681)
Dorsey was a good drafter.

of course, Veach was his head scout, no?

But Dorsey was shit at cap management, and is apparently such an asshole that nobody wants to work with him, despite being a really good personnel guy.

So whatever.
Sounds like the embodiment of the Packers.

JPH83 08-23-2023 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 17068795)
A QB was not just dumped in Andy Reid's lap. Then he was told to develop him. With out Reid's input, giving up the picks and Andy's time to work with him. Hunt's money. The GM at the time is not relevant
I mean, I agree in so much as I think the importance of Veach is a distant 3rd to Reid and Mahomes (though obviously credit is due re his role in the 2nd). I think last year is where he gets most of the kudos simply because of Mahomes' cap hit. Building a roster that's good enough around that ain't easy. Maybe the roster was only good enough because of Reid's wizardry and Mahomes' greatness, but it was good enough, and that was his job.

Simply Red 08-23-2023 06:48 AM
Thanks Brett

tredadda 08-23-2023 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by nicksdad (Post 17067942)
You mean the Dorsey who drafted four of NFL.com top ten players in the league ? That Dorsey ? And don’t start in this Veach gets credit for Mahomes myth .
How is it a myth?


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