I am not disagreeing, it makes no sense.

Cards are on a 1-22 with RISP streak. Ouch.

Can't hit.

Gonna be a long season of watching Wong hit 8 homers and Carp flounder.

Meh.

When the ghost of Adam Wainwright gives up 3 runs in 5+ you need to find a way to win that.

It's official: these guys suck.

Championship window swings open in 2019. :)

If they can meathead after this seasion I'll consider it a success.

In MLB our Cardinals:

Leadoff/Fowler is batting 28th/32 teams

2nd/Pham is batting 17th/32 teams

3rd/Carp is batting 27th/32 teams

Matheny is still sticking with this same lineup. What’s the point? We have a known history with this lineup and players in those spots.

We know Carp does well in the leadoff position. If I’m remembering it right, Fowler did good last year batting 3rd. Am l missing some WAR #’s or something here?

Mattheny would **** up the '27 Yankees. :banghead:

That top three is an abomination in the current MLB state. Dan and Tim jerk to it every night though...

It's been 13 games.

wasnt it months last year with Carp 3rd/Fowler lead?

I'm not going to argue that Carpenter doesn't have some kind of mental block about hitting anywhere other than leadoff, but I don't see it affecting anyone else.

Pham was the 9th best hitter in baseball last year. Better than Goldschmidt, Charlie Blackmon, and Kris Bryant. Second is the perfect place for him.

Considering that Carpenter, Pham, and Fowler all get on base at a very high clip, having them on in front of Ozuna makes a ton of sense. You can flip Carpenter and Fowler, but Molina, DeJong, and Wong at the bottom of the lineup all create some kind of issue.

In that last inning if you have the bases loaded and one out, DeJong is worrisome because he K's so much, which kills the rally, Molina is a GIDP machine, and Wong is really a #8 hitter.

Aside from switching Fowler and Carpenter, there just isn't much you can do. Unfortunately, there are times when multiple guys in your lineup are cold at the same time, which makes it hard to string together rallies, but that's baseball.

l don’t have an issue with Matheny lineup other than Carp batting leadoff. Fowler at this time, would be the best candidate to hit 3rd. It is what it is.

Bro... Maddon stuck with Schwarber at leadoff for damn near half a season. This isn't just a Matheny thing. Carpenter and Fowler will hit, not convinced Pham will, at least not close to his 2017 numbers.