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Why Not? 11-11-2019 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 14587856)
11. The Chiefs just aren't that good.
This is almost worthy of its own thread. I agree. As it turns out, the Chiefs are just another middle of the road, mediocre NFL team. We have a couple of all world players including the best QB in the league but everyone else, coaches included, are basically some combination of mediocre to just not good.

Buehler445 11-11-2019 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BillyB (Post 14588709)
I have been lurking around the board for while and thought I would post my thoughts as an outsider (Pats fan) here are my takeaways from the game / season / reading thru this board posts:
Few things:

1. I hope you don't fancy yourself anything of a football mind. There isn't really anything of substance here.

2. You can **** right the ****ing **** off about the officials. You ****ing cockholsters get treated differently than anyone else in the whole ****ing league.

3. Don't be a brother****er like your brother****ing compatriots that have streamed in here. You won't catch too much hell after awhile if you're not a brother****er.

BillyB 11-11-2019 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 14588747)
I take this as you don't like what you read - so you posted someone else's GIF instead of replying

T-post Tom 11-11-2019 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by BillyB (Post 14588759)
I take this as you don't like what you read - so you posted someone else's GIF instead of replying
The reply was based on the merits of your idiotic post. Probably not even a Pats fan. Go kill yourself.

Prison Bitch 11-11-2019 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by BillyB (Post 14588709)
I have been lurking around the board for while and thought I would post my thoughts as an outsider (Pats fan) here are my takeaways from the game / season / reading thru this board posts:

1.) Last year the Chiefs took the leagues by storm with it's high powered offense and ended as the number one seed in the AFC. One year later, guess what? No one is surprised and no one unders estimates the Chief's. At the beginning of the year every team circled their game against KC as chance to prove themselves. Every team is going to bring their A-game, especially the middling and dregs of the league. Its their superbowl, better get used to it. That's what I saw today. Titans were pumped to get their chance to knock of the "mighty" chiefs and they didn't quit until they did.

2.) Other teams have had a year to understand what KC does and adapt to it. There is nothing revolutionary about what the Chief's do this year or last. They are loaded with talent on offense, they are just straight up more talented, this team made Matt Moore look good. Pat is a force but I believe this board seriously underestimates how much Pat has to work with and how much better he is because of it. That being said KC reminds me of the "greatest show on turf" or the "Manning Colts". High flying as long as they don't get punched in the mouth or jammed at the line.

3.) Chiefs were horribly undisciplined today, on the drives I watched it looked like Mahomes had to drive the fields twice as they kept moving backwards on undisciplined football.

4.) I saw a lot of posts about KC's fumble return for 6 being the turning point in the game. Yet I have seen no posts on the free 3+ points that the officials gifted KC on Tannahill non-fumble. Hard nose, disciplined, focused teams overcome bad officiating. I have noticed this board is the first to jump all over the officials for biased officiating yet go silent when they are the beneficiaries, which seems to me to be more often than not. Pat / Chiefs are front and center of the NFL they will likely get the close calls, it's the way seems to always work. Just don't act like your still getting screwed.

5.) The chiefs D made Ryan Tannehill look like a Pro-Bowl QB. This is the same QB that was cast off from a AFC East team that I have read countlessly here has allowed the Patriots to remain dominant for so long with no competition. Competent defense make bad teams look bad and give you a chance against a good team. Every year the Patriots made the opposing trash QB look like this they went nowhere in the playoffs. Maybe the Chiefs will pull it together but if it was my team I would not feel good about it.

6.) Someone pointed out that Chiefs have now lost to three of Biil's tree coaches and it made me think. It is weird but I don't worry as much about playing KC / Andy the way I do some other teams. The teams that alway give the Pats the most trouble the teams that have coaches that hate bill. (Rex, John H, ect..) John H said he built his team to beat two team the Steelers and the Patriots. The ones that usually lose are the ones that respect him too much (Billy O will likely never beat him because of this). Andy doesn't hate Bill , I think the opposite I believe they are friends. Back when Andy was in Philly he and Bill has a record for most consecutive years with a trade at the draft. Well one year it was coming to the end of the draft and they had not traded with each other and the record was in jeopardy; so what did they do? They both made trades that made no sense with each other just to keep the record going. Not sure Rex and Bill ever had that kind of relationship. I am not saying Bill completely has Andy's number but I feel the respect thing plays into the Bill's favor.

7.) It is unfortunate that Chiefs are wasting Mahomes prime years. When I say prime I don't mean i think he is going to have a drop off anytime soon, though we will have to watch his durability, not his toughness. What I mean by prime years is his rookie contract years. This team a year ago was loaded with pro-bowl talent with rookie salaries. This year its started to take on some salary weight and jettisoned a pro-ball RB for no compensation, When they sign Pat to be the highest paid QB in the league we will see how long they can maintain his all star cast around him. You think the D is bad now just wait until they take on that contact and try to have to balance his supporting cast. You will be screaming for WR to not waste Pat's years and then wondering why the D is still so bad. People underestimate how much Brady taking team friendly deals has allowed the Patriots to maintain their competitiveness. I doubt the rookies on this team will do the same for the chiefs. If not it will be very difficult for them to maintain any consistency as they will be putting out one fire after another with little resources to do so.

8.) Some people ask why do Patriots fans read thru other teams boards, like myself. I can tell you as Pats fan I do it because it far more interesting to see the excitement and passion of a team just starting to get success vs a team that has just been good for as long a the Pats have been. I am really not trying to be smug but there is not a lot to argue about with the Patriots. We can scream and yell about this player or that player, or that they didn't do enough to support Tom, or the improve eth D. But it's pretty hard to complain about any of the coaching or the GM given the track record. The counter argument to any complaint is always "in bill we trust" and it hard to argue with after all these years, as boring as it is.


Nobody is going to read that wall of text

BillyB 11-11-2019 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 14588762)
The reply was based on the merits of your idiotic post. Probably not even a Pats fan. Go kill yourself.
Very welcoming and insightful once again. Thanks. That's the kind of conversation I was looking for.

BillyB 11-11-2019 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14588767)
Nobody is going to read that wall of text
I got it, I should just post with GIFs like the guy that responded to me.

T-post Tom 11-11-2019 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 14587157)
Ten Things About Today’s Game Week 10: Tits 35 KC 32


5. Dave Toub should be let go after this season. We haven’t had a single punt return or kickoff return for a TD. So specials are not helping, at all. We can't seem to get through a game without penalties on punt returns. We did have Hardman field a punt on his own three yard line before the end of the first half, so we've got that going for us. We did have Buttkicker miss a critical PAT that changed the game strategy. We did have Colquitt chip in with a 26 yard punt, and have him muff a hold, and add on a intentional grounding when he panicked when the snap hit him in the freaking face. His game is slipping, he's old and makes a shit ton of money. Time to send him on his way with a gold watch and some pudding at the end of the year. He’s a veteran player, and veteran players should not piss their pants like that when the game is on the line. On the final FG attempt, the guy who blocked the punt was offsides, but the Ref’s had a plane to catch, so…no call. Never should have come to that anyway. Game was lost when they puked up the lead with less than :30.
I'm shocked at how bad special teams has shit the bed this year. Can't help but wonder if anyone on special teams is going to be the sacrificial lamb after all of today's ST snafus. Kind of doubt it, but if so, it'll happen in the next couple of days.

Only158 11-11-2019 12:50 AM
Billy

Truly insightful stuff�� Since you are espousing such useful football knowledge....riddle me this Bman. How the **** does T Hill get called for OPI on Kelce’s TD(I called THAT play as the turning point in the game!!) in the 1st qtr when Gronk scored like a jillion TDs with the Hobbits (Edelman, Amendola and Woodhead) doing the EXACT ****ing thing? Admit it.... Bill’s entire offense is based on pick plays that the rest of the League can’t run! Surely someone as “objective” as you can say that...can’t you? Mmm hmm. Thought so.��

Saleenman607 11-11-2019 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 14588752)
This is almost worthy of its own thread. I agree. As it turns out, the Chiefs are just another middle of the road, mediocre NFL team. We have a couple of all world players including the best QB in the league but everyone else, coaches included, are basically some combination of mediocre to just not good.
absolutely the MFing TRUTH

Saleenman607 11-11-2019 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14588767)
Nobody is going to read that wall of text
shit,,,,,,,,I did

BillyB 11-11-2019 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Only158 (Post 14588807)
Billy

Truly insightful stuff�� Since you are espousing such useful football knowledge....riddle me this Bman. How the **** does T Hill get called for OPI on Kelce’s TD(I called THAT play as the turning point in the game!!) in the 1st qtr when Gronk scored like a jillion TDs with the Hobbits (Edelman, Amendola and Woodhead) doing the EXACT ****ing thing? Admit it.... Bill’s entire offense is based on pick plays that the rest of the League can’t run! Surely someone as “objective” as you can say that...can’t you? Mmm hmm. Thought so.��
Look pretty blatant to me he ran straight into him well over 1 yd, the defender has a right hold his ground. Not sure Chief run less pick play than Patriots or Saints. Not sure I see a ton of them get called either way. We had a blatant no called in the Ravens game last week, way it goes.

BTW wasn't that play in the drive that resulted from non fumble / fumble. If it was not sure I would cry to hard about that one.

I thought you were going to talk about how the ref just let defenders take shots at Kelce and ride him like a pony like they use to with Gronk because hes bigger than them. That I buy, teh OPI was blatant and unneeded by Hill.

Demonpenz 11-11-2019 01:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyB (Post 14588709)
I have been lurking around the board for while and thought I would post my thoughts as an outsider (Pats fan) here are my takeaways from the game / season / reading thru this board posts:

1.) Last year the Chiefs took the leagues by storm with it's high powered offense and ended as the number one seed in the AFC. One year later, guess what? No one is surprised and no one unders estimates the Chief's. At the beginning of the year every team circled their game against KC as chance to prove themselves. Every team is going to bring their A-game, especially the middling and dregs of the league. Its their superbowl, better get used to it. That's what I saw today. Titans were pumped to get their chance to knock of the "mighty" chiefs and they didn't quit until they did.

2.) Other teams have had a year to understand what KC does and adapt to it. There is nothing revolutionary about what the Chief's do this year or last. They are loaded with talent on offense, they are just straight up more talented, this team made Matt Moore look good. Pat is a force but I believe this board seriously underestimates how much Pat has to work with and how much better he is because of it. That being said KC reminds me of the "greatest show on turf" or the "Manning Colts". High flying as long as they don't get punched in the mouth or jammed at the line.

3.) Chiefs were horribly undisciplined today, on the drives I watched it looked like Mahomes had to drive the fields twice as they kept moving backwards on undisciplined football.

4.) I saw a lot of posts about KC's fumble return for 6 being the turning point in the game. Yet I have seen no posts on the free 3+ points that the officials gifted KC on Tannahill non-fumble. Hard nose, disciplined, focused teams overcome bad officiating. I have noticed this board is the first to jump all over the officials for biased officiating yet go silent when they are the beneficiaries, which seems to me to be more often than not. Pat / Chiefs are front and center of the NFL they will likely get the close calls, it's the way seems to always work. Just don't act like your still getting screwed.

5.) The chiefs D made Ryan Tannehill look like a Pro-Bowl QB. This is the same QB that was cast off from a AFC East team that I have read countlessly here has allowed the Patriots to remain dominant for so long with no competition. Competent defense make bad teams look bad and give you a chance against a good team. Every year the Patriots made the opposing trash QB look like this they went nowhere in the playoffs. Maybe the Chiefs will pull it together but if it was my team I would not feel good about it.

6.) Someone pointed out that Chiefs have now lost to three of Biil's tree coaches and it made me think. It is weird but I don't worry as much about playing KC / Andy the way I do some other teams. The teams that alway give the Pats the most trouble the teams that have coaches that hate bill. (Rex, John H, ect..) John H said he built his team to beat two team the Steelers and the Patriots. The ones that usually lose are the ones that respect him too much (Billy O will likely never beat him because of this). Andy doesn't hate Bill , I think the opposite I believe they are friends. Back when Andy was in Philly he and Bill has a record for most consecutive years with a trade at the draft. Well one year it was coming to the end of the draft and they had not traded with each other and the record was in jeopardy; so what did they do? They both made trades that made no sense with each other just to keep the record going. Not sure Rex and Bill ever had that kind of relationship. I am not saying Bill completely has Andy's number but I feel the respect thing plays into the Bill's favor.

7.) It is unfortunate that Chiefs are wasting Mahomes prime years. When I say prime I don't mean i think he is going to have a drop off anytime soon, though we will have to watch his durability, not his toughness. What I mean by prime years is his rookie contract years. This team a year ago was loaded with pro-bowl talent with rookie salaries. This year its started to take on some salary weight and jettisoned a pro-ball RB for no compensation, When they sign Pat to be the highest paid QB in the league we will see how long they can maintain his all star cast around him. You think the D is bad now just wait until they take on that contact and try to have to balance his supporting cast. You will be screaming for WR to not waste Pat's years and then wondering why the D is still so bad. People underestimate how much Brady taking team friendly deals has allowed the Patriots to maintain their competitiveness. I doubt the rookies on this team will do the same for the chiefs. If not it will be very difficult for them to maintain any consistency as they will be putting out one fire after another with little resources to do so.

8.) Some people ask why do Patriots fans read thru other teams boards, like myself. I can tell you as Pats fan I do it because it far more interesting to see the excitement and passion of a team just starting to get success vs a team that has just been good for as long a the Pats have been. I am really not trying to be smug but there is not a lot to argue about with the Patriots. We can scream and yell about this player or that player, or that they didn't do enough to support Tom, or the improve eth D. But it's pretty hard to complain about any of the coaching or the GM given the track record. The counter argument to any complaint is always "in bill we trust" and it hard to argue with after all these years, as boring as it is.

yep

scho63 11-11-2019 05:40 AM
This season is so bad we now even have Pats fan and trolls ****inp up and shittign in the famous "Ten Things" thread. :$2500:

Is nothing sacred and safe anymore??? :shrug:

TwistedChief 11-11-2019 06:28 AM
I vowed not to go on CP after the loss because it stung so much. I then spoke to a close friend who had just gotten out of a hospital after being close to committing suicide. It put things in some sobering perspective.

This loss sucked and was inexcusable. We found numerous ways to creatively beat ourselves. Our defense isn’t remotely fixed as it lacks consistency but it does show sparks of being effective.

I’m still pretty optimistic on this season. A tight win against the Vikings and loss against the Titans doesn’t really change that.

DTHOF 11-11-2019 06:40 AM
Fumbles have cost this team three of the four games. This team has fumbled more this year than any year i remember. They may have done more but not like this in the most inopportune time.

With a clean game turnover wise Chiefs win every game they play. Even with this putrid defense.

otherstar 11-11-2019 07:48 AM
I agree totally. Worst loss the Chiefs have had in awhile....only because it's a game the Chiefs SHOULD have won.

Sevenfeet 11-11-2019 08:37 AM
Good morning from a Titans fan...

First, for some reason, this team going back to the Jeff Fisher coached days seems to have KC's number. I can't explain it. It's like we are destined to lose against the Colts regardless if the QB is Manning, Luck or some scrub no one has ever heard of.

The Titans are the ultimate up-and-down team over the last few years. And this year began with us pretty much closing the door on the Marcus Mariota era, a guy everybody likes but isn't apparently up for the long term starting job. We got Ryan Tannehill as a really good quality backup who could still start and now he's 3-1 and has the full confidence of everyone (at least right now). That 2 point conversion at the end was the first successful one in four years...and he had to literally get his head knocked on a swivel in a classic "me-vs-you" gut check on the goal line.

Patrick Mahomes is ridiculous. Former Titans great Eddie George said this week that Mahomes reminds him of Michael Jordan. That jump throw for a TD was insane. Never EVER complain about having that guy on your team.

If there is a soft underbelly of the Chiefs, it may be the defense. You can't allow Derrick Henry to run all over you like that. Because he will. And right now he's running angry, literally dragging people along for extra yardage. And Corey Davis, one of our best receivers was out yesterday and the rest of the team still stepped up.

The Titans defense is for real which is important since they had their hands full all day trying to contain Mahomes and keep up with Hill, Kelsey & Co, often not succeeding. And our starting corner Malcolm Butler broke his wrist last week and is on IR.

Finally, thank you for filling in the gaps on our apathetic fan base by spending lots of money in our city and patronizing our vibrant Lower Broadway tourist district. We've gotten used to this in Nashville since we've been a .500 football club over the last several years.

oldman 11-11-2019 08:47 AM
Thanks for the write-up, George. It's nice to know another long standing fan/mean old man was pissed after that game.

I'm going to echo one item in your post, the ST play. Not only have we not had a return taken to the house this year, I can't think of a single blocked punt or FG attempt. I'd be hard pressed to think of any great ST play that hasn't been called back for a hold, block in the back, or some other dofus action. That's on Toub. I don't have any problem not using Hill as a PR man, but there has to be someone better than Hardman. Hell, use Pringle, one of our 38 RBs that sit on the bench, or even Sorenson. At least Dirty Dan wouldn't field a punt at the 3. That's on Toub, too.

xbarretx 11-11-2019 08:50 AM
I probably say this every week but its still early enough to where we can hopefully get this crap out of our system. if this happens at the end of the season were screwed. we still have time and now we have a bye to think about it.

We gave yesterday away. I am not calling for anyone's head but I wouldn't lose to much sleep over it if anything happened.

Great write-up GBF!

58-4ever 11-11-2019 08:59 AM
This is the most frustrating loss of the PMII era... save maybe the NE loss, but at least that was a good team... UGH

MahiMike 11-11-2019 09:35 AM
The Steelers pick up minkah Fitzpatrick and he has 5 interceptions already. I don't think we've had 5 interceptions in 2 years.

The turnover battle is killing us.

scho63 11-11-2019 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 14589213)
The Steelers pick up minkah Fitzpatrick and he has 5 interceptions already. I don't think we've had 5 interceptions in 2 years.

The turnover battle is killing us.
I was going to start a thread about this earlier-just incredible and he has had a HUGE impact for the Steelers. They are a 5-1 team in their last 6, hottest team in the AFC outside Baltimore.

Tackling disappeared again yesterday; tons of whiffs and missed tackles.

Asides from that, these rushing stats are DISGRACEFUL!!!

Tennessee Rushing
--------------CAR YDS AVG TD LONG
Derrick Henry 23 188 8.2 2 68
Ryan Tannehill 3 37 12.3 0 18
TEAM------- 26 225 8.7 2 68

Only158 11-11-2019 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BillyB (Post 14588824)
OPI was blatant and unneeded
Maybe...but 31 other sets of fans will agree, because you obviously won't, that 17 years is long enough to endure Pats players being just as blatant and just as unneeded. Two sets of rules gets frustrating and actually annoying. I don't have to point out specific examples because that list would include basically every game since your team stole plays and watched practices in 2002. We get it...If you ain't cheatin, you ain't tryin...but the rest of us can't get away with it. Enjoy another division, conference and possibly league championship. We know...you "earned it".

gblowfish 11-11-2019 11:08 AM
Fescoe actually had a good point this morning about that last offensive sequence before the muffed field goal attempt. We've got the ball on the Tits 21 yard line with three minutes left. After the first running play, we threw an incomple pass, then Mahomes takes a seven yard sack. If we run the ball twice instead of throwing and taking a sack on another pass attempt, you force the Tits to take time outs We could have run the clock down to around the two minute warning, kicked a 20 yard field goal and went up by two scores. Instead, they run 11 seconds off the clock then muff the FG, and with the intentional grounding, give the Tits a much shorter distance to cover, and kept their time outs intact. Once again, Fail on time management on Andy. His achilles heel, and something he'll probably never fix.

KC Hawks 11-11-2019 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 14589424)
Fescoe actually had a good point this morning about that last offensive sequence before the muffed field goal attempt. We've got the ball on the Tits 21 yard line with three minutes left. After the first running play, we threw an incomple pass, then Mahomes takes a seven yard sack. If we run the ball twice instead of throwing and taking a sack on another pass attempt, you force the Tits to take time outs We could have run the clock down to around the two minute warning, kicked a 20 yard field goal and went up by two scores. Instead, they run 11 seconds off the clock then muff the FG, and with the intentional grounding, give the Tits a much shorter distance to cover, and kept their time outs intact. Once again, Fail on time management on Andy. His achilles heel, and something he'll probably never fix.
Huh? I think you are mixing up two different drives. The Titans didn't have any timeouts left after Mahomes took the sack.

gblowfish 11-11-2019 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 14589455)
Huh? I think you are mixing up two different drives. The Titans didn't have any timeouts left after Mahomes took the sack.
Maybe.
I'll have to go back and watch the last four minutes. Before I eat anything.

But for sure if they run twice before they kick, they burn a couple minutes off the clock, leaving the Tits little time to march down for a TD.

Mecca 11-11-2019 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 14589213)
The Steelers pick up minkah Fitzpatrick and he has 5 interceptions already. I don't think we've had 5 interceptions in 2 years.

The turnover battle is killing us.
This team has had a turnover issue since Peters got dealt.

siberian khatru 11-11-2019 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 14589424)
Fescoe actually had a good point this morning about that last offensive sequence before the muffed field goal attempt. We've got the ball on the Tits 21 yard line with three minutes left. After the first running play, we threw an incomple pass, then Mahomes takes a seven yard sack. If we run the ball twice instead of throwing and taking a sack on another pass attempt, you force the Tits to take time outs We could have run the clock down to around the two minute warning, kicked a 20 yard field goal and went up by two scores. Instead, they run 11 seconds off the clock then muff the FG, and with the intentional grounding, give the Tits a much shorter distance to cover, and kept their time outs intact. Once again, Fail on time management on Andy. His achilles heel, and something he'll probably never fix.
I think that's mixing things up.

On the possession before the muffed FG, the Chiefs drove to the 21. The next play was the INC short pass to Hill, followed by the INC pass to Hill down in the right corner of the end zone. Then they kicked the FG to go up 5 with 3:14 to play.


After stopping the Titans, they took over with 1:48 left and went run-run-sack to kill 21 seconds.

gblowfish 11-11-2019 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 14589473)
I think that's mixing things up.

On the possession before the muffed FG, the Chiefs drove to the 21. The next play was the INC short pass to Hill, followed by the INC pass to Hill down in the right corner of the end zone. Then they kicked the FG to go up 5 with 3:14 to play.


After stopping the Titans, they took over with 1:48 left and went run-run-sack to kill 21 seconds.
Thanks.

Tombstone RJ 11-11-2019 11:25 AM
I really don't understand NFL players and teams and the overall makeup of teams today and maybe it's all due to parity or what I call a parody of the old NFL.

The Broncos beat the Titans, then KC absolutely whips the Broncos ass like they are a HS team, and then KC goes out and flops against the Titans?

I really don't get it other than 1. yes it's a match up issue in that the Broncos matched up better to the Titans than KC does and KC matched up better to the Broncos than the Titans do and consequently the Titans matched up better to KC than the Broncos do? But that's all BS IMHO.

I think these current NFL players and teams flat out play hard when they want to play hard and that's pretty much it.

KC Hawks 11-11-2019 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 14589464)
Maybe.
I'll have to go back and watch the last four minutes. Before I eat anything.

But for sure if they run twice before they kick, they burn a couple minutes off the clock, leaving the Tits little time to march down for a TD.
The Titans turned it over on downs. We had the ball at their 32 with 1:48 left. We ran the ball two times to make them use their timeouts, then Mahomes took the sack on 3rd and 2 to make them use their last timeout. We managed the clock fine. We just ****ed up everything else.

rabblerouser 11-11-2019 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14587414)
Yes he was. I’ve watched it a dozen times, he’s in a full sprint ad the ball is snapped.
He was lined up in the neutral zone.

Buehler445 11-11-2019 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 14589483)
I really don't understand NFL players and teams and the overall makeup of teams today and maybe it's all due to parity or what I call a parody of the old NFL.

The Broncos beat the Titans, then KC absolutely whips the Broncos ass like they are a HS team, and then KC goes out and flops against the Titans?

I really don't get it other than 1. yes it's a match up issue in that the Broncos matched up better to the Titans than KC does and KC matched up better to the Broncos than the Titans do and consequently the Titans matched up better to KC than the Broncos do? But that's all BS IMHO.

I think these current NFL players and teams flat out play hard when they want to play hard and that's pretty much it.
Can't disagree with any of this. But I'd add coaches too.

And that's human nature, hell we had some of that in high school ball.

Tombstone RJ 11-11-2019 11:50 AM
The other thing about the current NFL that I absolutely can't stand is the inept or flat out horrible refereeing. When the game is close and you have horrible, horrible calls that totally affect the outcome of the game, that SHOULDN'T HAPPEN.

My point is that IF there is so much parity in the NFL that yes, it could be said that on any given Sunday any team can beat any other team, well, if that's the case, you simply can't allow for inept refereeing and yet, we see it all the time.

Theres some people here that think it's all fixed and when I see the state of the refereeing in the NFL, I can't really say "hell no" to the games being fixed in that certain outcomes are advanced or "helped" along to gain more market share for the playoffs and ultimately the SB. I don't want to believe it, but I marvel at how inept the refs are WITH the review process where bad calls are not overturned or decisions are made in some dark NY City office by some official as to whether a catch is a catch or a fumble is a fumble or a TD is a TD etc....

Aspengc8 11-11-2019 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14589490)
He was lined up in the neutral zone.
He was fine, just made a good play. If you are looking for blame, Bell's your man.

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scho63 11-11-2019 03:10 PM
I have to take back what I said in another thread. I was wrong, dead wrong, Guy was nowhere near offsides and this was the best angle and explanation from anyone. Sure wish the stupid game yesterday they would have done this on replay. :doh!:

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Marcellus 11-11-2019 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 14589609)
He was fine, just made a good play. If you are looking for blame, Bell's your man.

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Bell sucks ass in every single aspect of football. Penalties, dropped passes and missed blocks including the play Mahomes got hurt on against Denver and this abortion of an attempted block on the FG. His ass should be on the street today.

ChiefsOne 11-12-2019 08:58 AM
total absence of a killer instinct

This is the problem!

HemiEd 11-12-2019 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 14588777)
I'm shocked at how bad special teams has shit the bed this year. Can't help but wonder if anyone on special teams is going to be the sacrificial lamb after all of today's ST snafus. Kind of doubt it, but if so, it'll happen in the next couple of days.
I am very disappointed in Colquitt this year. That short punt of his in this game was notable.

Meatloaf 11-12-2019 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14590183)
Bell sucks ass in every single aspect of football. Penalties, dropped passes and missed blocks including the play Mahomes got hurt on against Denver and this abortion of an attempted block on the FG. His ass should be on the street today.
Marcellus, you've been on Bell's case in a few different threads lately....and I TOTALLY agree with you.

Whenever there is something noteworthy to say about Bell, it seems that it's due to something that he's done wrong. I swear that the guy hasn't made a "good" play all year. Heck, in that blocked field goal play, I don't think he made contact with ANYONE!

I can't imagine that he'll be with the team next year.

Otter 11-12-2019 11:28 AM
That was a brutal loss. I'm starting to lighten up and usually don't let games get to me much anymore but it really seems like we're pissing away the Mahomes opportunity. Also, fans travelled so well to that game it was a tough loss.

scho63 11-13-2019 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 14591895)
I am very disappointed in Colquitt this year. That short punt of his in this game was notable.
This may be his worst year by a long shot. He's been horrible minus a few exceptions. :shake:

rabblerouser 11-13-2019 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Meatloaf (Post 14591921)
Marcellus, you've been on Bell's case in a few different threads lately....and I TOTALLY agree with you.

Whenever there is something noteworthy to say about Bell, it seems that it's due to something that he's done wrong. I swear that the guy hasn't made a "good" play all year. Heck, in that blocked field goal play, I don't think he made contact with ANYONE!

I can't imagine that he'll be with the team next year.
I don't understand why he's still on the team THIS year? Cut him, and bring Fortson up from PS.

What happened to Yeldor?

Mecca 11-13-2019 07:47 AM
Uh I get people not liking Bell but guess what, he has 2 guys there, so he has 3 options. Take the inside guy, which is what he did and what you're taught to do, take the outside guy and then a different guy blocks the kick..

Or try to block both of them which would probably have gotten a holding penalty. Blame Toub it was a stupid form that didn't have enough blockers aided by a snap count they all knew was coming.

KChiefs1 11-13-2019 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14590183)
Bell sucks ass in every single aspect of football. Penalties, dropped passes and missed blocks including the play Mahomes got hurt on against Denver and this abortion of an attempted block on the FG. His ass should be on the street today.

Totally agree.

Flying High D 11-13-2019 09:44 AM
The team is coming apart at the seams, popping rivets.

arrwheader 11-13-2019 09:49 AM
They should have cut a player today send a message.

Id say Bell.

Flying High D 11-13-2019 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by arrwheader (Post 14593646)
They should have cut a player today send a message.

Id say Bell.
If it’s Liposuction I can think of a better candidate.

Aspengc8 11-13-2019 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14593460)
Uh I get people not liking Bell but guess what, he has 2 guys there, so he has 3 options. Take the inside guy, which is what he did and what you're taught to do, take the outside guy and then a different guy blocks the kick..

Or try to block both of them which would probably have gotten a holding penalty. Blame Toub it was a stupid form that didn't have enough blockers aided by a snap count they all knew was coming.
I feel its on Toub as well. Inside guy didn't even really penetrate. The outside guy got such a jump, Bell should have at least reached out and tried to get a shove on his shoulder. On the a22 endzone view, its so apparent he had a hell of a jump.

MahiMike 11-13-2019 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 14593733)
I feel its on Toub as well. Inside guy didn't even really penetrate. The outside guy got such a jump, Bell should have at least reached out and tried to get a shove on his shoulder. On the a22 endzone view, its so apparent he had a hell of a jump.
I think I'm finally shining the light on Toub. Folks are starting to get it.

rabblerouser 11-13-2019 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 14593768)
I think I'm finally shining the light on Toub. Folks are starting to get it.
Well, guess who is ultimately accountable for all coaches and their constant ****ery?

Flying High D 11-13-2019 12:12 PM
I don’t know about anybody else, but running from thread to thread stirring the shit with this Evinrude is tiring.

New World Order 11-14-2019 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14587236)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Frank Clark told me he felt the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> defense came out “soft” on the final drive and that the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Titans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Titans</a> came out more aggressive than they did on that drive. Clark also said they didn’t expect Tannehill to come out and run as physically as he did today.</p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/1193649559060262914?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Really starting to hate Frank Clark

TEX 11-14-2019 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14595624)
Really starting to hate Frank Clark
Join the club.

Flying High D 11-14-2019 12:37 PM
Him and HB can go right back where they came from.

PAChiefsGuy 11-14-2019 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14595624)
Really starting to hate Frank Clark
Agreed.

He might want to look in the mirror when calling D soft he hasn't done much all season and now he is blaming his bad play on an injury.

scho63 11-14-2019 02:03 PM
This is one of the longest and most discussed Ten Things I can remember in a long time.

This game stung for sure

gblowfish 01-15-2020 04:46 PM
Revisiting this thread. My, I was a bit steamed. Hopefully we'll learn from the experience and play better this time around.

rabblerouser 01-15-2020 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 14726111)
Revisiting this thread. My, I was a bit steamed. Hopefully we'll learn from the experience and play better this time around.
No way the Chiefs allow themselves to get beat by the Tits twice in one season

All about REVENGE.

stevieray 01-15-2020 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 14595679)
Him and HB can go right back where they came from.
oooops :p

(happens to the best of us)

Sassy Squatch 01-15-2020 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 14593635)
The team is coming apart at the seams, popping rivets.
It's actually pretty amazing how the exact opposite happened after the game.

Kiimo 01-15-2020 06:14 PM
Don't apologize, this was by far at the time the most infuriating game of the season.



Turns out the Titans were way better than we thought but it still took a gargantuan flop to lose to them.


I'm glad it happened because no way they'll be caught off guard Sunday. Whatever happens in the game it won't be because the Chiefs are looking past this team

KC Hawks 01-15-2020 06:16 PM
Man, I think I was angrier after this loss than I was the AFC championship game.

T-post Tom 01-15-2020 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 14726111)
Revisiting this thread. My, I was a bit steamed. Hopefully we'll learn from the experience and play better this time around.
Excellent bump. A nice little time capsule. CP & Chiefs' Kingdom was pretty salty that day. Funny how the worm has turned since then. I nominate George as the official CP historian. :)

WilliamTheIrish 01-15-2020 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 14726111)
Revisiting this thread. My, I was a bit steamed. Hopefully we'll learn from the experience and play better this time around.

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5. Dave Toub should be let go after this season. We haven’t had a single punt return or kickoff return for a TD. So specials are not helping, at all.
Twas a frustrating game...

Spott 01-15-2020 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 14726111)
Revisiting this thread. My, I was a bit steamed. Hopefully we'll learn from the experience and play better this time around.
This was the first road game I’ve been to in a while. After driving 8 hours from Florida and shelling out a pretty penny for seats in the front row, I was pretty pissed about this game and probably spouted off a lot of gloom and doom afterwards. Easily one of the most frustrating games I’ve ever been to.

CaliforniaChief 01-15-2020 06:55 PM
From the Haiku Thread and updated to present

Revenge starts today
Houston, Tennessee, Green Bay
For Mahomes I'm gay.


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