Poor take. Daniels would be more of a pass rush specialist. Nnadi is a nose - he was NT in a 3-4 last year for goodness sake.

OR he might never wear it...

OR he and Oakley may choose to abandon the project altogether if they aren't getting the results they want, yes.

ROFL

Maybe, but Daniels is pretty good against the run too.

I've talked and read myself into it. If his health checks out a nice little 2 year deal would be fine for him.

He's a really good disruptive player.

SONIC ZOOM!

Stop trying to make fetch a thing

it's awesome

the best nickname of the mahomes era thus far

in fact, i'm hereby christening patrick mahomes CAPTAIN ZOOM!!!

You are 1 word there from wanting him to be the Flash's main villain...

During this camp, I'm hopeful that the coaches place an emphasis on reducing penalties.

The way the season turned out it's easy to overlook, but penalties hurt us badly last year ... far more than most people realize.

Great conditioning plus great fundamentals equal fewer penalties ... and we could use a whole lot more fewer penalties.

FAX

And maybe tackling

No more Scandrick should help with both.

Not a fan of the Legion of Zoom nickname. It feels like it’s played off of the Legion of Boom...because it is.

A natural born leader if there ever was one. Our trophy case is gonna look real sexy after his job is done.

And Legion of Boom is played off the Legion of Doom...from the Superfriends cartoon.

https://images.app.goo.gl/9giX9a1vem9AP75r5

Nerd fact of the day. Your work here is done. 😂

I came, I saw, I nerded everything up. :D

No one has seen anything like this offense. Some dumb contrived derivative nickname is beneath it.

This

There's a difference between getting a nickname from another source and basically blatantly copying another teams Nick name.

I like legion of zoom but it's unusuable because of the LOB

Your instincts are usually spot on, but LOZ is derivative as the day is long... let’s let the nickname come organically

Some 15 year lurker with 7 posts will chime in with the ringer

How about the guy in the photo who isn’t a WR?

THIS. It’s insane how close we came to the Super Bowl despite the fact that we were insanely penalized and had an awful defense (not mutually exclusive). Very interested to see what coaching and scheme mean for the penalties this year. Any improvement there can go a long way.

Agreed. But he's more of a Jones than a Nnadi. Point being that 43 DTs aren't asked to do the same thing and aren't just interchangeable.

If the Chiefs can afford them all I'm very cool with waves and waves of talented, disrupting DTs blowing up the interior of the line which just so happens to be the only way to stop Brady

Daniels would rotate with Jones. Saunders rotates with Nnadi. As it stands now, it would likely be a DE like Speaks rotating with Jones.

Agreed . Blow up the middle and he's off his game

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I hope we land daniels. Our Defense is gonna surprise the league .

Quick, tell him to @ that at Daniels

The cheetah shorts are a nice touch.

Dude looks like a ****ing explosion in human form.


He’s something else.

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7-25 Observations

* The temperature stayed in the high-70s throughout the morning practice that began at 8:40 a.m. Arrowhead Time.

* For me, the moment of the day me was seeing the Travis Kelce shimmy — the one friend-of-the-site Terez Paylor of Yahoo! Sports coined as the “dream shake” when he was still on the beat at The Kansas City Star. Kelce shimmied defensive back Herb Miller, leaving him in the dust during seven-on-seven drills. Once I saw the “dream shake,” it confirmed for me that Kelce is doing just fine.

* Speaking of tight ends (or more correctly, those listed as tight ends), H-back John Lovett was working with the running backs Thursday, and Jody Fortson was working with the wide receivers. Kelce discussed what he has seen from Lovett on Wednesday: “He’s a brilliant kid. He’s learning the offense faster than a lot of guys would. It makes sense. He’s a high-intellect guy, and he understands the information and knows how to put it into his own way and his own form, because he is a different athlete. He’s a different athlete than a lot of us, and that’s the biggest thing about making the transition from quarterback to tight end — you didn’t grow up playing that position, so you’re already behind the 8-ball on that. You can’t just go out there and do tight end stuff. It kind of has to start to make sense in your mind, and it turns into almost your own position or your own way of how you play the game.”

* For the second day in a row, offensive lineman Cam Erving was mixing in at left tackle. I found this peculiar on day one and thought they may just be working him everywhere, but again, maybe the Chiefs just like Erving as a swing tackle. It will be very interesting to see where he lands in the offensive line groups come Saturday during the team’s first full practice.

* We’re in year two, and Patrick Mahomes still finds ways to impress. I noticed before the Chiefs started practice that Mahomes took wide receiver Felton Davis aside to show him how he’d prefer him to pivot. Nothing against Davis, a surefire practice squad candidate, but he isn’t making the 53-man roster. Mahomes is the ultimate teammate, and it shows in moments like that.

* Another note on Mahomes because I know you can’t get enough: he remains the ultimate competitor. In a group install period (offense with no defense), he failed to connect on a corner route with Cody Thompson, and he was visibly upset he could not complete the play. Mahomes’ competitiveness even extends to when there is no defense on the field.

* No turnovers on defense Thursday, and it’s tough to stand out on that side of the ball until a padded practice. It is worth noting that Thornhill, sidelined with a calf injury during mandatory minicamp, was doing everything for the second day in a row.

* Rookie running back Darwin Thompson and second-year wide receiver Davon Grayson stood out on offense. Both players showed a knack for catching every pass thrown their way.

* The only specialist in camp — punter Jack Fox — continues to gulp up face time with Dave Toub while assisting the Chiefs with all kicking duties.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2019/7/25/8930500/chiefs-training-camp-notebook-khalen-saunders-thursday-words-on-chris-jones-mean-more-with-report

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Sly Fox sliding up in there...

Taking over....

One kick at a time...

When does Sherman check in?

Skip: Don't you think these defenses will figure Mahome out

Shannon: If it was a mathematical equation ,Einstein couldn't figure it out

:clap:

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They do the AFC West last...

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If anyone doesn't wanna watch or skim both of them...Chiefs get a lot of talk at the end of the first one they both pick the Chiefs for the bowl.

Robinson goes Chiefs vs Cowboys
Terez goes Chiefs vs Saints

Also Robinson talks about just how nasty Frank Clark is.

Oh boy, another season of people doubting Mahomes....alrighty lol.

Also Skip thinks NE goes 13-3 and gets HFA......sure.

I hope Terez eventually becomes a household name like other national media figures.

He certainly deserves it.

cant believe Legion of Zoom is sticking..horrible name

I don’t like it either.

We should have something more badass like “the X-15’s.”

The X-15 is the fastest aircraft ever. We’re gonna dominate with our air attack again. Plus Mahomes wears 15.

Still better than Legion of Boom.

Legion of Boom was good..us copying it is not

1. It’s not
2. Quit typing it

No it ****ing wasn't

DERP HIT HARD LIKE BOOM SOUND IT MAKES

BEAST MODE LIK RUN REAL HARD LIKE BEAST

Seahawks fans are idiots. So are you.

It's dumb just like "Chiefs Kingdom" we suck at nicknames stop trying.

Most nicknames are stupid, just after awhile you get use to it.

Yes. So very very very very very much this.

They use the Kingdom because they can't use the Tribe. Although the Chiefs have a great relationship with Native American Organizations in the surrounding four states- the media would get their panties in a bunch and start crying "cultural appropriation" so they use the bland- Kingdom.

Even though the name Chiefs for the team was never intended to be based on a Native American name- it has slowly become that.

The Tribe is also taken by the Cleveland Indians. So until the Chiefs marketing department comes up with something better- Chiefs Kingdom it is. :rolleyes:

We don't need a nickname how about that... How about "Loudest bunch of ****s in the world"?

I vote for Air Wally!!!!!

FAX

Watching Frank Clark and Alex Okafor highlights makes me feel so much better about our run defense. These guys are edge setters who make tackles work their ass off to win the outside. It’s such a big improvement over Dee Ford and a lazy 2018 Justin Houston.

We haven’t replaced Houston’s sack productivity, but having an effort player with athletic traits in Okafor as your 3rd rusher isn’t a bad thing.

I think we’ll be ready for everyone trying to run the ball and keep Pat off the field.

going to be hard to stop the run with our LB crew..better hope they rush the edge everytime..

I worry that this defense won't be able to generate pressure consistently. I know, i know "BUT SPAGS WILL BRING EXOTIC BLITZES"

The point of the 43 switch was to be able to bring pressure with 4 and to put better coverage linebackers on the field, not expose our back end with blitzes in obvious passing downs.

Damn, I hate not being able to hate Sharpe anymore. :sulk:

Hitchens is going to be much better in the 4-3, the Wilson addition at SLB will help as well, and Lee/DOD give us speed we simply didn’t have last year (DOD was either hurt or still learning most of last season).

This idea that our LB’s are going to be as bad as last year is silly. It’s still a concern overall, but I don’t see any way we’re not better.

Improving the DL alone should help the LBs out a lot

If Frank the Tank and Chris the Piss do their jobs at an elite level they'll be fine.

This is going to be like DT and Smith but one of them is an interior rusher now.

This might actually be better, since it's getting harder and harder to get pressure from the edge now with the ball coming out so fast.

You get enough attention on those guys and the dudes being single blocked can maximize their 'wins,' with an occasional blitzer thrown in to confuse things.

Why? Clark and Jones are two great rushers and it’s not like Okafor is useless as a pass rusher. Saunders possibly gives us an extra interior pass rusher that we didn’t have last year. Daly has way more talent than he had in NE to work with.

How fitting would it be if Andy finally wins the Bowl against Philly?

Other than a nacho buffet that would be his dream scenario. It may happen.

Run D isn't really that important now...really on NE lined up big and tried to run, no one does that anymore.

The biggest thing will just be the front 4 doing their jobs, our run D was bad because we had guys who had no desire to play it properly.

Agreed. I don't remember the Chiefs using many stunts up front. Just guys lining up across from the OL and trying to win individual battles.

The handful of times we did stunt it worked - at least in my memory. I think this DL has quickly become a position of real strength and depth. Makes sense, considering we traded out 3-4 OLB in favor of a 4-3 DE, but still.

With good ol' Vanilla Man-to-Man.

Thank you Bob.

We need to address your level of commitment

Ford and Houston 2018:

22 sacks

Clark and Okafor 2018:

17 sacks


That was with Okafor coming off an Achilles tear and clearly not 100%. He could get 6-8 sacks 2 years removed form that injury playing on this DL with Daly coaching them up.

Damn I can't wait to see our defense this preseason

Then you don't remember that well.

The Chiefs stunted/twisted quite a bit. Jones found a lot of his pressures by simply being unblocked when teams didn't read the twist well or focused on Ford/Houston instead.

Complain about the secondary or coverage approach if you want to, but the Chiefs weren't vanilla on the DL or in how they used their LBs.

Justin Houston wasn’t motivated and sandbagged a lot last year
Chris Jones was abandoning a lot of run defense responsibilities so he could get sacks for a bigger contract.
Dee Ford just ****ing sucks in run defense
Allen Bailey ****ing sucks in run defense

Reggie Ragland was also slow as shit and couldn’t get to the open hole many times to stop free rushers.
Ron Parker was just absolute ass coming up to stop the run.

The additions this offseason were to fix this shit and on paper it looks much improved.

I'm so excited about this defense. I went back and watched some games from last year, and these were my takeaways:

Houston and Ford looked great -- but Ford's sacks almost exclusively came off the speed rush. He never got one on a second move that wasn't a coverage sack. Maybe his speed is so good he doesn't need one, but the fact remains... he is a one-dimensional pass rusher. However, he added the DT58 strip motion to his pass rush, and man oh man did he use that effectively. I'm no Dee Ford fan, because I think his liability as a run stopper grossly outweighed his pass rushing, but this forced fumble aspect was super hawt.

2. Speaking of run stopping, it was DISGUSTING going back and watching this team try to stop the run. I mean, offensively bad. I was so distracted by the eight mile boner I had for Mahomes, and just enjoying his magic so much, that I didn't really process how bad the defense was. It's astounding. Watch the Denver game and try to count how many times the runner just casually picked up 8 yards. I expected to see William Bartee and Kawika Mitchell out there.

3. Speaking of running the ball, we are going to miss Kareem Hunt. I know Damien Williams had equal production. I know Andy Reid gets insane results from virtually any running back. And I know that I openly advocated for not re-signing Hunt as a free agent long before the hotel tape, because of the Andy Reid results factor. But watching Hunt, his ability to take a hit, rebalance, and then get downhill again is just so damn impressive. I think Darwin has a lot of that, but Hunt is Damien Williams' body with Thompson's balance. He's a really ****ing good running back. I don't think we will miss his production, but I do think we will miss his style. Such an entertaining running back.

4. Lastly, back to the defense... it's really incredible how many starters are just GONE from this defense. Anyone trying to do the math and project how it's going to turn out is engaging in pure, speculative bullshit. Houston, Ford, Berry, Bailey, Nelson, Scandrick, Parker. That's so much turnover, I can't imagine how different this defense will look. Not to mention every turd coach being replaced by guys there was legitimate consideration for as the DC. This is gonna be fun.

Yep.

Houston lost interest in setting the edge and Ford just didn't have the core strength. And while Ford could be an asset in pursuit, Houston lost the speed to do that. Bailey was just so easy to handle because he was a 'hulk smash' sort of player and Jones was just an indifferent run defender. Williams was a huge disappointment inside as well.

Nnadi and Hamilton were the only ones who actually did their !@#$ing jobs against the run.

If Daly and Spags can re-emphasize accountability there and Veach acquired players with enough 'buy in' that will be a bigger difference than any pure talent infusion. That team just absolutely did not operate as a unit against the run and it was so apparent when you started looking for it.

That's where there's room for hope with Hitchens and maybe even Ragland. The 'team defense' concept was just gone last year. Those guys were just operating with no concept (or concern) over how what they did impacted what everyone else was able to do.

Einstein was notably a poor mathematician and had to hire helpers with complex mathematics but ok.

Dude, you're way off base.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-2018-e...es-2018-season

That is every sack for Jones last season. There is one at minute 2:35 where he lines up as the 3 tech, then stunts around the right tackle with Dee Ford going to.... I don't know... Russia? WTF is he doing?

There is a delayed stunt at minute 3:25. Same thing - lines up at DT and stunts with Houston around the RT.

Every other sack he got it was from penetrating the gap he originally lined up in.

Additionally, I'm watching Dee Ford's sacks -- zero stunts.

However, at 1:11 of this video, Breeland Speaks drops into coverage. He races back to recover the fumble. Actually pretty impressive.

http://www.nfl.com/m/share?p=%2Fvide...rd-2018-season

So is tomorrow the first real practice?

I’m going to have trouble with all these new players. Not going to be able to tell who’s who lol.

He said if the Chiefs make the AFCCG he'll be on the sidelines for Mahomeboy HAHA Ikr?