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lewdog 01-15-2019 08:54 PM

I already taught me son how to cat-call women.

**** off Gillette.

Raiderhater 01-15-2019 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperChief (Post 14041008)
You're so far off base, dude. It clearly pointed to issues that people are facing and said, "Hey, don't do that stuff. Step up and help people be better. You can be better."



What part of that says he's bad because he's a dude? Because it was about men-related issues?



Yes. And it is bad specifically because they are NOT men-related issues. Females bully. Females sexually harass.

Gillette makes shaving products for women as well as men, yet did their commercial target them as well? No, it targets the terrible misconception that these issues arise solely from masculinity.

I, for one, am going to keep being toxically masculine using my straight razor to shave instead of their expensive and crappy products.

Otter 01-15-2019 08:58 PM

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Fishpicker 01-15-2019 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 14042669)
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Everybody should check out the last few pages of the meme contest thread in DC. Gillette brand is taking a beating

threebag 01-15-2019 10:27 PM

Glad I don’t use their blades

GloryDayz 01-16-2019 06:24 AM

Need Clay to replace Zorro with Gillette.. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...17d272f167.jpg

T-post Tom 01-16-2019 07:23 AM

https://www.dollarshaveclub.com/get-started/plan/options

T-post Tom 01-16-2019 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Pointer19 (Post 14042258)
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(Start at 45:50 for Shapiro's take on the ad.)

Spot on.

Mephistopheles Janx 01-16-2019 06:24 PM

LOLOLOL

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Baby Lee 01-17-2019 08:55 AM

Holy ****!!

It completely eluded me that they put Ana ****ING Kasparian in their ad.

**** these bozos. That **** is toxic.

displacedinMN 01-17-2019 09:01 AM

What are the other agendas here?

Patriots feeling disrespected?
Trying to drive sales (backfiring)
Owner wants to sell?
someone in marketing thought it was a good idea-after getting married to a SJW?

Frazod 01-17-2019 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 14046408)
Holy ****!!

It completely eluded me that they put Ana ****ING Kasparian in their ad.

**** these bozos. That **** is toxic.

Any time I'm feeling down I go to YouTube and watch the TYT's election night coverage. It's like popcorn for the soul. :)

EyePod 01-17-2019 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 14039746)
As someone who generally agrees with the message of this spot, this is pretty overwrought and extremely preachy. I don't even mind companies taking stands on certain issues, but this is just too much. Poor acting/writing doesn't help and it reeks of patting themselves on the back.

I watched it twice now and have to agree.

I know a ton of sexist assholes who look at women as assholes. I see myself and my friends doing a better job than our parents did trying to handle these types of issues did, and I see that my parents did a better job than THEIR parents.

I think we're improving it overall, and discussing this in general isn't bad. But we're all at such different places on the spectrum, and this ad seems to really throw out a lot of assumptions.

EyePod 01-17-2019 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 14046408)
Holy ****!!

It completely eluded me that they put Ana ****ING Kasparian in their ad.

**** these bozos. That **** is toxic.

Who is she? I've never heard of her, and I'm pretty current on the political news.

Baby Lee 01-17-2019 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 14046529)
Who is she? I've never heard of her, and I'm pretty current on the political news.

The Young Turks, w/ Cenk Uygur . . .

EyePod 01-17-2019 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 14046543)
The Young Turks, w/ Cenk Uygur . . .

I saw young turks during primaries and realized they were garbage entertainment political talking heads like fox or MSNBC - not news. Haven't watched them since.

Baby Lee 01-17-2019 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 14046550)
I saw young turks during primaries and realized they were garbage entertainment political talking heads like fox or MSNBC - not news. Haven't watched them since.

Yeah, they aren't exactly the center of my universe either, but then I didn't pick that clip for my national ad campaign.

SuperBowl4 01-17-2019 10:22 AM

Gillette Stadium - home of the New England Patriots

EyePod 01-17-2019 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 14046557)
Yeah, they aren't exactly the center of my universe either, but then I didn't pick that clip for my national ad campaign.

Agreed. You all seem to know who they are. I'd be pissed if they threw in Tucker or Maddow unless it somehow had the two skipping around holding hands.

GloryDayz 01-17-2019 11:37 AM

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The Franchise 01-17-2019 11:53 AM

So when will Tampax come out and discourage all the shit that women talk about each other because of body size....breast size....hair color....

BIG_DADDY 01-17-2019 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 14046937)

Look at the gap on that. Oh myyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!

luv 01-17-2019 11:59 AM

Good message, but could have cut off the first 50 seconds.

Lzen 01-17-2019 12:53 PM

Good explanation - Love this woman
 
My apologies if this has already been posted.

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luv 01-17-2019 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 14047272)
My apologies if this has already been posted.

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Sorry, I couldn't finish listening to her hypocrisy. She says that it's wrong to hold all men accountable for the acts of a few, then goes on and blames the leftists for promoting sex before marriage, glorifying pornography...blah blah blah. Not all leftists do these things, and leftists are not the only people who have sex before marriage, nor are they the only ones who watch porn (that's the last point I could stand listening to).

luv 01-17-2019 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 14047327)
Sorry, I couldn't finish listening to her hypocrisy. She says that it's wrong to hold all men accountable for the acts of a few, then goes on and blames the leftists for promoting sex before marriage, glorifying pornography...blah blah blah. Not all leftists do these things, and leftists are not the only people who have sex before marriage, nor are they the only ones who watch porn (that's the last point I could stand listening to).

I agree with the point she was making (not all men should be held accountable for the acts of a few), but totally not the BS after the initial comments. As I said earlier I like the message at the end of the ad about setting an example, but all of the political BS at the beginning of the video was completely unnecessary.

BIG_DADDY 01-17-2019 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 14047327)
Sorry, I couldn't finish listening to her hypocrisy. She says that it's wrong to hold all men accountable for the acts of a few, then goes on and blames the leftists for promoting sex before marriage, glorifying pornography...blah blah blah. Not all leftists do these things, and leftists are not the only people who have sex before marriage, nor are they the only ones who watch porn (that's the last point I could stand listening to).

But wait, isn't that the exact same thing that is happening in the commercial. I have yet to see an adult male or female not break up kids legitimately fighting as an example yet you like the commercial. One you like and the other you can't stand. Give me a break.

luv 01-17-2019 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 14047390)
But wait, isn't that the exact same thing that is happening in the commercial. I have yet to see an adult male or female not break up kids legitimately fighting as an example yet you like the commercial. One you like and the other you can't stand. Give me a break.

Okay. Take a break.

In58men 01-17-2019 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken Bone (Post 14039082)
The pussification of America continues

Why is it that you need America to be portrayed as tough bad asses?

BIG_DADDY 01-17-2019 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 14047413)
Why is it that you need America to be portrayed as tough bad asses?

One has nothing to do with the other. Nice try.

In58men 01-17-2019 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 14047428)
One has nothing to do with the other. Nice try.

America pussificiation?

I think it does.

BIG_DADDY 01-17-2019 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 14047444)
America pussificiation?

I think it does.

The need of some in our society to constantly emasculate males has nothing to with wanting to project America as a bunch of bad asses. Why is emasculating males so important to you? There is already so much estrogen in our food and water we got 10 year old girls running around with boobs. Where are you looking for this to go dude?

In58men 01-17-2019 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 14047511)
The need of some in our society to constantly emasculate males has nothing to with wanting to project America as a bunch of bad asses. Why is emasculating males so important to you? There is already so much estrogen in our food and water we got 10 year old girls running around with boobs. Where are you looking for this to go dude?

What does it matter to you if you’re being emasculated?

This world is changing, get use to it. Go shoot your guns and drink your Budweiser if you’re feeling unmanly.

BIG_DADDY 01-17-2019 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 14047564)
What does it matter to you if you’re being emasculated?

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This place gets weirder every day. Please wipe up your snail trail on the way out.

Not even sure why you like football. Maybe you should be watching reruns of The Real instead of the game.

SuperChief 01-17-2019 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 14047587)
This place gets weirder every day. Please wipe up your snail trail on the way out.

Not even sure why you like football. Maybe you should be watching reruns of The Real instead of the game.

Watch out, everyone! Billy Badass in the house! How many cans can you smash on your forehead? I'm betting a lot!

In58men 01-17-2019 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperChief (Post 14047736)
Watch out, everyone! Billy Badass in the house! How many cans can you smash on your forehead? I'm betting a lot!

ROFL

Facts

chiefzilla1501 01-17-2019 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 14047511)
The need of some in our society to constantly emasculate males has nothing to with wanting to project America as a bunch of bad asses. Why is emasculating males so important to you? There is already so much estrogen in our food and water we got 10 year old girls running around with boobs. Where are you looking for this to go dude?

The need to counter emasculation is also the nonsense that led to critics waging war on Mr. Rogers. I thought Gillettes ad was a caricature of every male stereotype which is why I didn't like it... But it's another thing to defend that caricature. As long as they're not rubbing your face in it, I don't think not accepting someone whos different makes you any more of a man. In fact, I would say it's manly as hell to defend the bullied.

TinyEvel 01-17-2019 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 14047511)
There is already so much estrogen in our food and water we got 10 year old girls running around with boobs. Where are you looking for this to go dude?

Are you implying that someone is putting Estrogen in the water supply to emasculate America?

BIG_DADDY 01-17-2019 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 14047834)
Are you implying that someone is putting Estrogen in the water supply to emasculate America?

No

BIG_DADDY 01-17-2019 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14047807)
The need to counter emasculation is also the nonsense that led to critics waging war on Mr. Rogers. I thought Gillettes ad was a caricature of every male stereotype which is why I didn't like it... But it's another thing to defend that caricature. As long as they're not rubbing your face in it, I don't think not accepting someone whos different makes you any more of a man. In fact, I would say it's manly as hell to defend the bullied.

Different is fine. My son is totally the anti-bully, I couldn't agree more.

Truth is girls in school are much more brutal to other girls just like women are much more brutal to other women than men will ever be to each other in society.

GloryDayz 01-17-2019 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 14047272)
My apologies if this has already been posted.

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:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

GloryDayz 01-17-2019 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 14047564)
What does it matter to you if you’re being emasculated?

This world is changing, get use to it. Go shoot your guns and drink your Budweiser if you’re feeling unmanly.

Ouch. I get the Budweiser comment (Bed sucks), but what's wrong with shooting?

RunKC 01-17-2019 07:41 PM

We collectively have the least masculine men in any time of human history and they want us to be even less masculine.

Yeah..uhh..no.

displacedinMN 01-22-2019 10:13 AM

Men are being forgotten and pushed aside. Men of all races.

Spoiler!

Lzen 01-24-2019 11:38 AM

I know this vid is long but it is well worth the watch, IMO
 
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bowener 01-24-2019 11:44 AM

Hi, legit question: Why does this commercial upset anybody?

I am so confused why people are mad about this. Seems pretty straight forward: Don't be a piece of shit, and call out other people for being pieces of shit.

Raiderhater 01-24-2019 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bowener (Post 14069216)
Hi, legit question: Why does this commercial upset anybody?

I am so confused why people are mad about this. Seems pretty straight forward: Don't be a piece of shit, and call out other people for being pieces of shit.

It is a focused attack on masculinity when females are guilty of the same transgressions. Women shave. Gillette makes shaving products for women. Why didn't they target assholes of both sexes instead making it appear as it is only men who are the problem?

Saulbadguy 01-24-2019 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bowener (Post 14069216)
Hi, legit question: Why does this commercial upset anybody?

I am so confused why people are mad about this. Seems pretty straight forward: Don't be a piece of shit, and call out other people for being pieces of shit.

Why would any commercial upset anyone? I don't really understand.

In58men 01-24-2019 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 14069249)
Why would any commercial upset anyone? I don't really understand.



Only this guy will understand.

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Bowser 01-24-2019 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 14069249)
Why would any commercial upset anyone? I don't really understand.

What's so hard with understanding people don't like to be preached at by shitty commercials with political undertones? Sell me on your product, Gillette, don't try to sell me on how to be a "proper" man. I know the difference between right and wrong in spite of what the message of that commercial is saying. Pretty simple.

stevieray 01-24-2019 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 14046937)

...but of course.

....so toxic!

LMAO

Baby Lee 01-24-2019 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bowener (Post 14069216)
Hi, legit question: Why does this commercial upset anybody?

I am so confused why people are mad about this. Seems pretty straight forward: Don't be a piece of shit, and call out other people for being pieces of shit.

Speaking only for myself, it's no so much upset, as eyerolling at how this commercial appears on the surface to have one message, but betrays many others, and further reinforces subtle societal double standards.

The message is 'you're a man, you're powerful, but use it for good.'
It's a message of male supremacy, softened by advocating 'benign' male supremacy.
It points out faults in some men, and tells all men to be on guard for those faults in themselves. That is stereotyping.

Can you imagine a McDonalds commercial for black folk that had the message 'consider our salads, before you lose your foot to the sugar.'

Can you imagine a Tampax commercial for women gently reminding them that their menstual cycle can make them bitchy, so they need to keep mind to be extra nice sometimes.

Those are 'benign' messages simply urging people to behave better. But I don't think you would be as bemused by outrage in those situations.

But men are strong. Men are in charge. And that is as it should be. They can take condescension and chiding, not like the lesser and weaker genders and ethnicities.

The message is at cross purposes with itself, and it self-erases half of the stuff its preaching out the other side of its mouth. But even pointing out the inconsistency is considered gauche because the very social stratification they are tyrying to argue doesn't exist props up the message as beyond criticism.

GloryDayz 01-24-2019 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 14069204)
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Clearly the broad who make the Gillette chick flick hasn't been grabbed in the pussy and is feeling left out.

I'll consider giving the wench some consideration as soon as she has the draft rules modified to ensure being drafted is gender neutral, and combat deployment too. If she does that, then I might think she's serious, but I bet she wouldn't touch the subject, other then to say "get rid of the military", with a 10-foot metal coat hanger.

Saulbadguy 01-24-2019 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14069288)
What's so hard with understanding people don't like to be preached at by shitty commercials with political undertones? Sell me on your product, Gillette, don't try to sell me on how to be a "proper" man. I know the difference between right and wrong in spite of what the message of that commercial is saying. Pretty simple.

It's a commercial.

Bowser 01-24-2019 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 14069328)
It's a commercial.

Correct. But you asked.

GloryDayz 01-24-2019 12:30 PM

What the broad who directed it needs, along with getting laid, is to understand that we need more women like this, who are healthy and not obese...

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5268/5...ae294a6c_b.jpg

She's doing women no favors by telling them it's OK to be fat.

chiefzilla1501 01-24-2019 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14069288)
What's so hard with understanding people don't like to be preached at by shitty commercials with political undertones? Sell me on your product, Gillette, don't try to sell me on how to be a "proper" man. I know the difference between right and wrong in spite of what the message of that commercial is saying. Pretty simple.

I didn't like the ad because I thought the message was fine but the reliance on every possible stereotype was cringeworthy, especially when demonizing the wrong things only hurts not helps the feminist cause. But it's not like we got all riled up when a successful, smart woman was told she's not enough of a woman because she's 10 lbs overweight and doesn't dress slutty. So I kinda get the outrage on both sides.

chiefzilla1501 01-24-2019 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 14069349)
What the broad who directed it needs, along with getting laid, is to understand that we need more women like this, who are healthy and not obese...

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5268/5...ae294a6c_b.jpg

She's doing women no favors by telling them it's OK to be fat.

Case in point

GloryDayz 01-24-2019 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14069415)
Case in point

More "points" (cases???) that were well made by Gillette... :D

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eDave 01-24-2019 01:12 PM

4,16,7,1,12,14,3,8,6,13,9,11,2,5,10,13,15.

chiefzilla1501 01-24-2019 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 14069423)
More "points" (cases???) that were well made by Gillette... :D

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Oh I'm more than good with how they use women in advertising. If you want to show me more of those just so I'm sure please do. My point is, if they want to tell women what makes them "perfect" based on a superficial standard, then it's a little silly for me to get riled up about being told I'm not a perfect man.

GloryDayz 01-24-2019 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 14069505)
4,16,7,1,12,14,3,8,6,13,9,11,2,5,10,13,15.

There's a 17th chick, between 13/14 and 15. Butt she's hiding, so she might be self-fat shaming...

Lzen 01-24-2019 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bowener (Post 14069216)
Hi, legit question: Why does this commercial upset anybody?

I am so confused why people are mad about this. Seems pretty straight forward: Don't be a piece of shit, and call out other people for being pieces of shit.

If you really want to know then watch this.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...&postcount=205

Bowser 01-24-2019 01:41 PM

Give us your thoughts on this one, bowener. You too, Superchief….

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Lzen 01-24-2019 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14069625)
Give us your thoughts on this one, bowener. You too, Superchief….

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Woman explains to white men what is mainsplaining and to stop it. :rolleyes: Surely, she does not get irony. Or would hypocrisy be a better term to use here?

luv 01-24-2019 02:27 PM

This is a product geared towards men. They are simply playing off their motto. If you want to get so bent out of shape over it, go tell Tampax to make a commercial. Then women can use the men who bitched about this commercial as examples of how women are not the only bleeding vaginas.

Lzen 01-24-2019 02:28 PM

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Baby Lee 01-24-2019 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 14069780)
This is a product geared towards men. They are simply playing off their motto. If you want to get so bent out of shape over it, go tell Tampax to make a commercial. Then women can use the men who bitched about this commercial as examples of how women are not the only bleeding vaginas.

What WOULD your response be to a Tampax commercial that reminded you that you can get a little emotional during your monthlies, and urging you to be mindful of the people you irritate by doing so?

Honestly asking.

Raiderhater 01-24-2019 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 14069780)
This is a product geared towards men. They are simply playing off their motto. If you want to get so bent out of shape over it, go tell Tampax to make a commercial. Then women can use the men who bitched about this commercial as examples of how women are not the only bleeding vaginas.

You don't do any shaving at all? Ewww!

luv 01-24-2019 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 14069805)
You don't do any shaving at all? Ewww!

The best a MAN can get.

luv 01-24-2019 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 14069786)
What WOULD your response be to a Tampax commercial that reminded you that you can get a little emotional during your monthlies, and urging you to be mindful of the people you irritate by doing so?

Honestly asking.

We get that from Midol commercials. Seriously.

Raiderhater 01-24-2019 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 14069811)
The best a MAN can get.

Yes, that is their slogan from their men's division. But they also have a women's division because most women do some sort of shaving. They are not a men's only company and the issues they address are not issues solely belonging to men.

luv 01-24-2019 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 14069821)
Yes, that is their slogan from their men's division. But they also have a women's division because most women do some sort of shaving. They are not a men's only company and the issues they address are not issues solely belonging to men.

Okay. So don't use their products. Bitching will not make the commercial go away.

GloryDayz 01-24-2019 03:00 PM

Women can improve!

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chiefzilla1501 01-24-2019 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 14069786)
What WOULD your response be to a Tampax commercial that reminded you that you can get a little emotional during your monthlies, and urging you to be mindful of the people you irritate by doing so?

Honestly asking.

You don't think advertising for decades has told women how ugly they are because you don't have supermodel skin or hair or barbie hips, how bad of a mom they are because they work, or how unwomanly they are because theyre tough? Not sure this is the road I'd go down.

luv 01-24-2019 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14069859)
You don't think advertising for decades has told women how ugly they are because you don't have supermodel skin or hair or barbie hips, how bad of a mom they are because they work, or how unwomanly they are because theyre tough? Not sure this is the road I'd go down.

Speaking with regard to expectations of men, when I was younger, I had an older church lady get on to me for not waiting for one of the men that was in our group to open the door going in someplace, but now you get looked down on if you actually let someone open the door for you. Talk about confusing signals! LOL

We had a female client come in the other day who has been married for 34 years and raised two boys. One of her sons told her of a situation at work, where another guy was complaining about something, and her son said, "Don't be such a girl." I guess a female co-worker overheard him, and she went to HR to report him. Our client was wondering if she was so out of touch with feminism, since she didn't see her son's comment as offensive. I told her my boyfriend says that to me whenever I cry during a movie or overreact emotionally, and I think it's funny when he does, so, if she is out of touch, she's not the only one.

I get it. There's a double standard with this ad. Take it for what it's worth to you. It's like Nike with the Colin Kaepernick ad. It will be a hot topic for a while, and then it will fade away. Ads are not worth getting up in arms over.

stevieray 01-24-2019 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14069859)
You don't think advertising for decades has told women how ugly they are because you don't have supermodel skin or hair or barbie hips, how bad of a mom they are because they work, or how unwomanly they are because theyre tough? Not sure this is the road I'd go down.

:rolleyes:

Baby Lee 01-24-2019 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14069859)
You don't think advertising for decades has told women how ugly they are because you don't have supermodel skin or hair or barbie hips, how bad of a mom they are because they work, or how unwomanly they are because theyre tough? Not sure this is the road I'd go down.

And how sure are you that 'what are you complaining about' is a road to go down?

DaFace 01-24-2019 03:29 PM

My favorite part about these kinds of ads is that the people who hate them and bitch about them are doing exactly what the advertisers are wanting them to do. There's nothing like a little mild controversy to drive advertising ROI through the roof.

Baby Lee 01-24-2019 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14069925)
My favorite part about these kinds of ads is that the people who hate them and bitch about them are doing exactly what the advertisers are wanting them to do. There's nothing like a little mild controversy to drive advertising ROI through the roof.

How many razors did you buy today?

I agree that exposure is what they seek. I disagree that it will drive sales.

People are aware of their brand, it's plusses and minuses. It's a product you largely use in private, so there's no signalling to be gained. It's also a product you choose largely on efficacy and cost, and there is no case made to raise expectations on those metrics.


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