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Marcellus 01-10-2019 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 14022602)
We get it. Berry can do no wrong. There is no point in arguing with you about anything related to Berry.

Never said that and most of this argument has been about the other players not Berry, so stick a tampon up your bleeding ass.

Marcellus 01-10-2019 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14022665)
Maybe one of the big national media guys will pick up on it and give us something? Local guys haven't done much.

Why do you suppose ESPN, NFLN, FOX Sports, and all the other major media outlets haven't said a thing about Berry other than he isn't practicing or whatever? No crazy speculations or accusations?

The Franchise 01-10-2019 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14022805)
Why do you suppose ESPN, NFLN, FOX Sports, and all the other major media outlets haven't said a thing about Berry other than he isn't practicing or whatever? No crazy speculations or accusations?

Because he's been out most of this season and last season (including last week).....so it's not really breaking news.

Marcellus 01-10-2019 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 14022810)
Because he's been out most of this season and last season (including last week).....so it's not really breaking news.

Right.......or maybe they just see it for what it is. A guy is hurt and cant play.

kysirsoze 01-10-2019 01:07 PM

Berry situation is what it is. Who knows? I'm currently more concerned about O'Daniel. He seems to be a big upgrade against the run/screen game. Hope he can go but it doesn't sound like it.

Marcellus 01-10-2019 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 14022815)
Berry situation is what it is. Who knows? I'm currently more concerned about O'Daniel. He seems to be a big upgrade against the run/screen game. Hope he can go but it doesn't sound like it.

We got here without Berry, I just hope to hell they keep playing Lucas.

Toad 01-10-2019 01:09 PM

Very disappointed....
I never knew maths had plurality

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-10-2019 01:10 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Eric Berry and Dorian O’Daniel didn’t practice today for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>. <br><br>When asked, Reid was non-committal about Berry’s status for Saturday’s game.</p>&mdash; BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsReporter/status/1083440680515633154?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise 01-10-2019 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14022817)
We got here without Berry, I just hope to hell they keep playing Lucas.

It looks like it's going to be a combination of Sorensen, Murray and Lucas. Parker and Scandrick have been demoted completely.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-10-2019 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad (Post 14022818)
Very disappointed....
I never knew maths had plurality

The King's English is as the spirit moves it...

JakeF 01-10-2019 01:13 PM

Berry will get cut or retire next year. I'm not sure he gives a shit anymore.

58-4ever 01-10-2019 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14022830)
Berry will get cut or retire next year. I'm not sure he gives a shit anymore.

his Mana doesn't connect with our CHI and such ...

JakeF 01-10-2019 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 14022834)
his Mana doesn't connect with our CHI and such ...

ROFL

TambaBerry 01-10-2019 01:17 PM

i wish a reporter had balls actually and would just straight up ask what the **** is going on with him. It is like the most secretive injury in nfl history

YayMike 01-10-2019 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 14022820)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Eric Berry and Dorian O’Daniel didn’t practice today for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>. <br><br>When asked, Reid was non-committal about Berry’s status for Saturday’s game.</p>&mdash; BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsReporter/status/1083440680515633154?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

JFC......

any word about LDT????

JimNasium 01-10-2019 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14022845)
i wish a reporter had balls actually and would just straight up ask what the **** is going on with him. It is like the most secretive injury in nfl history

Why would any NFL coach be transparent about injuries?

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-10-2019 01:21 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source says the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> have adjusted their defensive packages in expectation of Berry not playing this weekend. Not ruled out yet but they’re working with contingency plans. <a href="https://t.co/ZrMwfiXevs">https://t.co/ZrMwfiXevs</a></p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1083443393144016899?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 01-10-2019 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by YayMike (Post 14022859)
JFC......

any word about LDT????

Who cares about LDT. Wylie is a beast!

Third Eye 01-10-2019 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad (Post 14022818)
Very disappointed....
I never knew maths had plurality

A good chunk of English speaking countries say maths. It actually makes sense considering it is short for mathematics.

TambaBerry 01-10-2019 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 14022862)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source says the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> have adjusted their defensive packages in expectation of Berry not playing this weekend. Not ruled out yet but they’re working with contingency plans. <a href="https://t.co/ZrMwfiXevs">https://t.co/ZrMwfiXevs</a></p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1083443393144016899?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

See he has become a distraction

YayMike 01-10-2019 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 14022862)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source says the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> have adjusted their defensive packages in expectation of Berry not playing this weekend. Not ruled out yet but they’re working with contingency plans. <a href="https://t.co/ZrMwfiXevs">https://t.co/ZrMwfiXevs</a></p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1083443393144016899?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Seriously?!?! This ticks me off beyond measure

YayMike 01-10-2019 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14022866)
Who cares about LDT. Wylie is a beast!

LDT moves to the other side, an extra bonus!

SupDock 01-10-2019 01:33 PM

I was ready to eat crow about my take on Berry through the season when he finally started. Glad I decided to wait because the ****ery continues

FloridaMan88 01-10-2019 01:35 PM

LDT healthy enough to participate in some sort of OL pass catching drill...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also LDT caught a pass.</p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1083422217197752321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">*not a trick play, an OL receiver drill the Chiefs run during the last practice of every week</p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1083424104827506688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

-King- 01-10-2019 01:40 PM

Welp, looks like that's it for Eric Berry's career in KC. Sad it might end like this.

FloridaMan88 01-10-2019 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14022917)
Welp, looks like that's it for Eric Berry's career in KC. Sad it might end like this.

Welcome to 5 months ago.

htismaqe 01-10-2019 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14022917)
Welp, looks like that's it for Eric Berry's career in KC. Sad it might end like this.

No kidding. He was once my favorite player. While I'm not going to start calling him names and acting pissy, I do wish that he would just go away and let the team move on.

JakeF 01-10-2019 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14022866)
Who cares about LDT. Wylie is a beast!

:doh!:

LDT plays on the right
Wylie plays on the left

It's Allen/Erving that gets the boot out of the starting lineup.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-10-2019 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14022926)
:doh!:

LDT plays on the right
Wylie plays on the left

It's Jeff Allen and Erving that gets the boot out of the starting lineup.

LDT hasn’t played in months you honestly want him starting this game?

ptlyon 01-10-2019 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 14022927)
LDT hasn’t played in months you honestly want him starting this game?

So we should sit him the rest of the year?

JakeF 01-10-2019 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 14022927)
LDT hasn’t played in months you honestly want him starting this game?

That's not what I said.

I was responding to someone that said 'who cares about LDT'. While he probably doesn't start this week, if we win he might start the next game. LDT and Wylie bring a much stronger interior line than we currently have so we should all care about LDT.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-10-2019 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14022917)
Welp, looks like that's it for Eric Berry's career in KC. Sad it might end like this.

Talk about ending with a thud...

Or a fizzly fart.

Or a Black Cat firecracker that turns out to be a dud.

Or anything by Burger King.

Or Metallica's "St. Anger".

Or a pimple on prom night.

Or a Herm Edwards commentary.

Or Caddyshack 2.

Or that sound they make on 'Hee Haw' between skits.

Or Buddy Rich with no hands.

Or McCauly Caulkin as an adult.

OKchiefs 01-10-2019 01:52 PM

What's the point in keeping this mother****er on the roster? Send him to IR and tell him to stay at home. If the Steelers can eat $21 million in cap space from trading their own problem child, we can deal with Berry's cap hit as well. It's time to rip off the band-aid and get rid of this waste.

ptlyon 01-10-2019 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14022942)
Talk about ending with a thud...

Or a fizzly fart.

Or a Black Cat firecracker that turns out to be a dud.

Or anything by Burger King.

Or Metallica's "St. Anger".

Or a pimple on prom night.

Or a Herm Edwards commentary.

Or Caddyshack 2.

Or that sound they make on 'Hee Haw' between skits.

Or Buddy Rich with no hands.

Or McCauly Caulkin as an adult.

Or the sound of CHA CHING!

-King- 01-10-2019 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 14022946)
What's the point in keeping this mother****er on the roster? Send him to IR and tell him to stay at home. If the Steelers can eat $21 million in cap space from trading their own problem child, we can deal with Berry's cap hit as well. It's time to rip off the band-aid and get rid of this waste.

Calm down. Looks like you'll get your wish in the off-season.

Sassy Squatch 01-10-2019 02:03 PM

Eric Berry got scared at the thought of playing a team of young male horses and went home.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-10-2019 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 14022949)
Or the sound of CHA CHING!

LMAO Yeah, that too. That money sure could buy some good young defensive talent... :shake:

"THANKS ClUCK"(!) says Berry as he Haglunds out the door and gimp-steps his way to the airport to spend the rest of the winter in the south seas.

RunKC 01-10-2019 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14022964)
Calm down. Looks like you'll get your wish in the off-season.

Not unless Berry wants to. He’s going to get surgery and not pass the physical to force us to pay him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Another $7.25M of Eric Berry&#39;s 2019 base salary is guaranteed for injury. This $7.25M becomes fully guaranteed on the 3rd day of the league year. <a href="https://t.co/DrnBBndmmi">https://t.co/DrnBBndmmi</a></p>&mdash; Joel Corry (@corryjoel) <a href="https://twitter.com/corryjoel/status/1083114137087930368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

JakeF 01-10-2019 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14022972)
Not unless Berry wants to. He’s going to get surgery and not pass the physical to force us to pay him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Another $7.25M of Eric Berry&#39;s 2019 base salary is guaranteed for injury. This $7.25M becomes fully guaranteed on the 3rd day of the league year. <a href="https://t.co/DrnBBndmmi">https://t.co/DrnBBndmmi</a></p>&mdash; Joel Corry (@corryjoel) <a href="https://twitter.com/corryjoel/status/1083114137087930368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Makes sense, Berry is trying to delay the surgery until right before next year so that the Chiefs have to pay him another year of his guarantee. The team treated him like a member of the family and Berry is deliberately doing all his can to **** the Chiefs over.

Before anyone says "who cares, it's not our money", if Berry does force the Chiefs to pay the 7.5m next year that counts against our cap which limits the amount of money we have to spend on fixing our defense next year.

We don't know for sure yet, but it appears as if Berry is giving Chiefs Kingdom the big middle finger on his way out the door.

We'll see

Marcellus 01-10-2019 02:12 PM

Thinking about this at lunch today I have to wonder if somewhere between Berry recovering from cancer treatments and the achilles tear he hasn't bought into some holistic healing bullshit and therefore refuses to put painkillers or any other unnatural drugs in his body?

His crazy ass hair and beard does make it look like he has gone a bit off the reservation.

I can't imagine players are contractually obligated to take prescription or over the counter pain meds.

That would be a pretty shitty deal if thats whats going on but I can't think of another explanation. He won't take the pain killers and he is trying to play without them and it isn't working maybe?

ptlyon 01-10-2019 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14022994)
He won't take the pain killers and he is trying to play without them and it isn't working maybe?

Wtf. He isn't even showing up for practice.

In58men 01-10-2019 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14022994)
Thinking about this at lunch today I have to wonder if somewhere between Berry recovering from cancer treatments and the achilles tear he hasn't bought into some holistic healing bullshit and therefore refuses to put painkillers or any other unnatural drugs in his body?

His crazy ass hair and beard does make it look like he has gone a bit off the reservation.

I can't imagine players are contractually obligated to take prescription or over the counter pain meds.

That would be a pretty shitty deal if thats whats going on but I can't think of another explanation. He won't take the pain killers and he is trying to play without them and it isn't working maybe?

Possibly

Otter 01-10-2019 02:19 PM

Yeah, berry isn't a team distraction at all.

tyton75 01-10-2019 02:23 PM

If LDT is healthy, he starts at RG! Wylie moves to LG and we roll em up. I could see that being the starting lineup next year.

FloridaMan88 01-10-2019 02:25 PM

Bob Sutton all but said yesterday the uncertainty surrounding Eric Berry's availability is a distraction.

At this point just shut him down and then hopefully both sides can figure out an amicable exit strategy in the offseason that works out for both parties.

OKchiefs 01-10-2019 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 14023015)
Bob Sutton all but said yesterday the uncertainty surrounding Eric Berry's availability is a distraction.

At this point just shut him down and then hopefully both sides can figure out an amicable exit strategy in the offseason that works out for both parties.

Berry has proven to be incredibly selfish. He's the exact opposite of Gil Meche. He won't do anything to give up any money and help the team.

Marcellus 01-10-2019 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 14023017)
Berry has proven to be incredibly selfish. He's the exact opposite of Gil Meche. He won't do anything to give up any money and help the team.

What part of this is not possible with the way the salary cap in the NFL is set up does your stupid ass not understand?

They dont save a dime if he retires, they dont save a penny if they cut him now or had before the season or anytime during the season.

Sassy Squatch 01-10-2019 02:35 PM

Chiefs couldn't have possibly handled this any worse if he really doesn't play Saturday.

TinyEvel 01-10-2019 02:36 PM

Reid just went on record that they are game planning for Saturday without Berry.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...out-eric-berry

DaFace 01-10-2019 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14023035)
Chiefs couldn't have possibly handled this any worse if he really doesn't play Saturday.

:spock:

What, exactly, do you expect them to do?

BossChief 01-10-2019 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14023023)
What part of this is not possible with the way the salary cap in the NFL is set up does your stupid ass not understand?

They dont save a dime if he retires, they dont save a penny if they cut him now or had before the season or anytime during the season.

I read somewhere that if they do an injury settlement that there would be some cap relief.

This is gonna get messy, though. It’s why owners should let the people they hire do their jobs.

Clark stepped in on 2 deals...Bowe and Berry...and was lucky Bowe ****ed himself or that deal would have screwed KCs cap too.

MIAdragon 01-10-2019 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 14023040)
Reid just went on record that they are game planning for Saturday without Berry.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...out-eric-berry

Jfc.

ptlyon 01-10-2019 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14023041)
:spock:

What, exactly, do you expect them to do?

I hope Reid doesn't send all of the players out in search of Berry's spirit and wear them all out

BlackOp 01-10-2019 02:40 PM

The worst thing, by far, that transpired out of this entire shit-show...is Berry's agent and the holdout tactic that ultimately set the stage for Dorsey's firing.

KC lost the best GM in franchise history over a record contract for a player that lasted all of 2 games. He didnt want to sign Berry...and it ended up costing him his job..

I hold Berry responsible for that...

Sassy Squatch 01-10-2019 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14023041)
:spock:

What, exactly, do you expect them to do?

Get the surgery back in August when it became apparent his heel was ****ed up.

Marcellus 01-10-2019 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14023042)
I read somewhere that if they do an injury settlement that there would be some cap relief.

This is gonna get messy, though. It’s why owners should let the people they hire do their jobs.

Clark stepped in on 2 deals...Bowe and Berry...and was lucky Bowe ****ed himself or that deal would have screwed KCs cap too.

There wasn't going to be an injury settlement during this season. They wanted him to play.

Next season? :shrug:

I say cut him with post June 1st designation and move on.

JakeF 01-10-2019 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14023035)
Chiefs couldn't have possibly handled this any worse if he really doesn't play Saturday.

Yep, several times the Chiefs have delayed handling injuries and had them cause drawn out problems. Houston didn't have surgery immediately, Berry didn't have surgery immediately. Maybe the players are refusing, but if that is the case then why are we treating players like this with such kid gloves?

We should never have given Houston and Berry huge contracts. We would have been better off trading them or letting them walk for comp picks. That's 30 million per year of cap space freed up.

Buckweath 01-10-2019 02:43 PM

So my understanding is that Berry will not play this weekend but would be day-to-day to play in the AFC Championship if the Chiefs were to advance. Is that correct?

htismaqe 01-10-2019 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14023055)
Get the surgery back in August when it became apparent his heel was ****ed up.

The team can't force him to have surgery.

This is 100% on Eric Berry.

BossChief 01-10-2019 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 14023040)
Reid just went on record that they are game planning for Saturday without Berry.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...out-eric-berry

He doesn’t say Berry won’t play. He says his status is the same as the rest of the year. Day to day.

This situation is going to be the difference maker, imo.

The offense is going to need to score 50 if Berry is out.

Marcellus 01-10-2019 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14023055)
Get the surgery back in August when it became apparent his heel was ****ed up.

People keep saying this but had had the surgery he would have missed the season. So what difference does it make?

Hindsight is awesome but the fact is he appeared to be 100% healthy heading into camp. You really blow the guy up for a season ending surgery over a sore heal? How often if ever has that been predicted?

Do you not think had they KNOWN how this was going to play out they would went another direction?

Its a mess, it sucks but given the options Im not sure they did handle it wrong.

Sassy Squatch 01-10-2019 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14023064)
The team can't force him to have surgery.

This is 100% on Eric Berry.

Then NFI his ass and make him choose between arbitration or surgery.

OKchiefs 01-10-2019 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14023023)
What part of this is not possible with the way the salary cap in the NFL is set up does your stupid ass not understand?

They dont save a dime if he retires, they dont save a penny if they cut him now or had before the season or anytime during the season.

None of what you just said discredits what I said. You're the biggest dumbass here. A reasonable player who signed a recordbreaking contract but was unable to perform at all for the life of the contract would agree to an injury settlement. Eric Berry is selfish and isn't a reasonable player. Berry has made roughly $90 million in his career so far and will end up making almost $140 million when it's all said and done despite only being available roughly half the time. A reasonable player would see that their contract is hurting the team and agree to a reduced salary to help the team. Hell, Berry is making more than Tom Brady at this point. Let that sink in.

Buckweath 01-10-2019 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14023065)
He doesn’t say Berry won’t play. He says his status is the same as the rest of the year. Day to day.

This situation is going to be the difference maker, imo.

The offense is going to need to score 50 if Berry is out.

Berry is out.

Don't be in denial now. It is obvious.

BossChief 01-10-2019 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14023055)
Get the surgery back in August when it became apparent his heel was ****ed up.

How about 4-5 years ago when the problem started?

The Franchise 01-10-2019 02:47 PM

June 1st cut him in the offseason and be done with this shit.

htismaqe 01-10-2019 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14023067)
Then NFI his ass and make him choose between arbitration or surgery.

He was recovering from an achilles tendon tear, he finished last year on IR. I don't think NFI was ever possible.

JakeF 01-10-2019 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14023056)
There wasn't going to be an injury settlement during this season. They wanted him to play.

Next season? :shrug:

I say cut him with post June 1st designation and move on.

Berry is going to prevent that by waiting to have his surgery. They will have to negotiate an injury settlement then. Berry will force them to pay out the ass.

Sassy Squatch 01-10-2019 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14023066)
People keep saying this but had had the surgery he would have missed the season. So what difference does it make?

Hindsight is awesome but the fact is he appeared to be 100% healthy heading into camp. You really blow the guy up for a season ending surgery over a sore heal? How often if ever has that been predicted?

Do you not think had they KNOWN how this was going to play out they would went another direction?

Its a mess, it sucks but given the options Im not sure they did handle it wrong.

You mean the same sore heel that caused him to overcompensate and blow out his Achilles in the other foot a year prior?

Marcellus 01-10-2019 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14023065)
He doesn’t say Berry won’t play. He says his status is the same as the rest of the year. Day to day.

This situation is going to be the difference maker, imo.

The offense is going to need to score 50 if Berry is out.

Berry hasn't played all season and we give up an average of 3 pts less than the other teams road scoring average at home.

The colts scored around 24pts per game on the road this season. If that holds true that puts the Colts at 21pts.

Thats far cry from needing to score 50.

htismaqe 01-10-2019 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14023075)
How about 4-5 years ago when the problem started?

That would have obviously been best.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-10-2019 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14023035)
Chiefs couldn't have possibly handled this any worse if he really doesn't play Saturday.

Yes but not really. I'm pretty sure it was only the fans who were pushing the whole, "he'll be ready by October-week six-Hanukkah-week 10-Ramadan-the playoffs"(!)-bullshit.

BossChief 01-10-2019 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 14023074)
Berry is out.

Don't be in denial now. It is obvious.

Because it’s so incredibly important I’m going to hold out hope till hope is completely gone

htismaqe 01-10-2019 02:49 PM

They should have never re-signed him. I wish that weren't true but it is. They should have let him walk, cancer or not.

Marcellus 01-10-2019 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14023081)
You mean the same sore heel that caused him to overcompensate and blow out his Achilles in the other foot a year prior?

What part of his heal wasn't sore going into TC do you not understand?

So he starts getting a sore heal in TC, you think they should have immediately scheduled him for season ending surgery? Seriously?

OKchiefs 01-10-2019 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14023066)
People keep saying this but had had the surgery he would have missed the season. So what difference does it make?

Hindsight is awesome but the fact is he appeared to be 100% healthy heading into camp. You really blow the guy up for a season ending surgery over a sore heal? How often if ever has that been predicted?

Do you not think had they KNOWN how this was going to play out they would went another direction?

Its a mess, it sucks but given the options Im not sure they did handle it wrong.

He wasn't 💯 healthy. Even if you're in denial and unwilling to admit it, the bone spurs almost certainly date back to 2017 or earlier. How else do you explain heel pain in the same foot during 2017 preseason?

And getting the surgery in augior September is a huge difference. He'd possibly be healthy by the spring and his contract wouldn't be guaranteed for injury. Now he will likely miss all of OTAs and minicamp and we'll go into another preseason questioning his availability and day to day status.

JakeF 01-10-2019 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14023075)
How about 4-5 years ago when the problem started?

The Chiefs should have stopped this shit when cancer started instead of paying him all that money when they didn't have to.

OKchiefs 01-10-2019 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14023090)
What part of his heal wasn't sore going into TC do you not understand?

So he starts getting a sore heal in TC, you think they should have immediately scheduled him for season ending surgery? Seriously?

The exact same heel was sore in 2017 training camp. If you're too dense to see the signioor relevance of that then I can't help you. His heel issues were known well before 2018 and he or the team didn't do their due diligence to make sure he was physically ready and capable.

Marcellus 01-10-2019 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14023089)
They should have never re-signed him. I wish that weren't true but it is. They should have let him walk, cancer or not.

Spilt milk.

Like I said earlier I think where they ****ed up was franchising him instead of getting him cheaper sooner and being another year along in the contract at this point which would make cutting bait even cheaper.

People forget he played on the franchise tag and had an All Pro season.

BossChief 01-10-2019 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14023083)
Berry hasn't played all season and we give up an average of 3 pts less than the other teams road scoring average at home.

The colts scored around 24pts per game on the road this season. If that holds true that puts the Colts at 21pts.

Thats far cry from needing to score 50.

Indy is going to score at will on our defense, imo.


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