This is some of the worst officiating I have ever seen.

NCAA games. These ARE rigged.

The bald Ref ****ed Geist on a call....****ed us on what should have been charging and then the foul on the rebound is ****ing unbelievable bullshit...

They need to leave this conference. I'm dead serious.

I wouldn't pay a dime to see SEC basketball. POFS conference.

****ing THIS!

14 pt lead snatched largely by the Refs....****ing BS

The foul under the basket took the game away....

Horrible possession....

Tough loss, MU...you had the game won until the Refs decided otherwise, literally

I'm done. I'm ****ing done. This is not a conference; it's a cabal, a ****ing good ol' boy network that picks winners and losers instead of letting them get decided on the floor. Those refs are 1000 percent on the ****ing take, either to enrich themselves or to pay off a gambling syndicate they owe money to.

One of the rare times we can agree. That was unreal officiating...

They're SEC refs looking out for their own. Tourney would not look favorably on an LSU loss to us. Inexcusable officiating

Refs ****ed Mizzou in the ass with no lube.

William Tecumseh Sherman is the greatest man in American history. I only wish he had burned more of that ****ing cesspool on his way to the sea.

MU had no business losing that game. That is a **** job by the Refs if there ever was one.

If SEC refs were doctors they'd remove all your internal organs, sell them on the black market, douse your corpse in gasoline, set it ablaze, and then alert the cops that your family committed arson.

Hated the move from jump.

Not a good two weeks for Missouri sports (MU, SLU, Chiefs, and Blues).

NFL crews who were done for the year got some college BB gigs?

No NFL crew would ever have been this obvious in its corruption. Imagine if the Saints receiver got called for a personal foul after getting interfered with and hit H2H last week. That's the equivalent of what happened to Mizzou. They need to leave the conference.

I'll never forget Max Copeland saying something like that after beating Georgia in '13. Pissed the traitors off.

Dude, the officiating in this game made the Saints game look like an innocent accident that rarely happens

Perhaps the coach could draw some attention to the problem while defending himself for doing this, and showing the evidence of why he was triggered.

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Wait, they never address the "why" part....

Incredibly bad, game changing call. Maybe not quite as bad as the one that hosed the Saints, but pretty damned bad.

I like a lot of things about Martin, but his stubborn insistence on playing two bigs consistently is really frustrating.

He’d be much better off splitting 160 minutes between Pinson, Geist, Mark Smith, Pickett, Suggs, and Watson than splitting 80 between Tilmon, Santons, Puryear, Nikko, and Mitchell Smith.

****Official 2018-19 Missouri Tigers Basketball Thread****
 

Fan got pretty excited yesterday.
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Ya might want to NSFW that puppy

For what it's worth - I really like this team.

Pinson, Pickett, Smith and Smith will be big time contributors next year with McKinney looking good as a reserve back there.

Watson, Smith and Jackson give you a solid forward corps w/ Tilmon at C.

Those guys all play their asses off and so many of them have shown excellent growth this year. Santos is largely irrelevant and I guess Nikko has become tolerable enough as a backup C (I just wish to hell Cuonzo would stop playing him at the same time as Suggs and leaving us 3 on 5 offensively).

I'd like to see one more recruiting win; 4 or a 3 would help (A new C is probably not needed just yet).

I like these guys a lot, though. They're easy to root for, they play hard and they play for each other. They spent this whole season one player away from being a 20-22 win team, IMO. You just have to think about how many of these games either came up 1 or 2 possessions short or got away from them because they didn't have a guy that could stop the bleeding like Cash could last year.

I think they're a tourney team this season with Jontay. I hate that it went down like it did, man. It would be a minor miracle if he came back for some strange reason but that seems really silly of him and there's maybe a 5% chance of it. But boy, he'd make all the difference in the world for them; they can win the conference with him back at full force.

That LSU game swung the ****ing conference. I like the fight of Cuonzo's teams, but I just checked out after that game and watched less than five minutes the rest of the year. So ****ing tired of this ****ing cabal.

We got absolutely fisted in that game, no doubt.

I can't decide if my memory of college basketball officiating is just wrong, but I sure don't recall us gett rat-****ed as often at home as we do in the SEC. Sure, on the road we got hosed quite a bit because that's just what happens in college hoops. I never got too wound up about that because that's just basketball and we'll get it back on the other end.

But man, I feel like we take it coming and going now. And maybe we always did - maybe I don't recall it correctly. But we take so many bad calls at home now that it just drives me nuts. I mean in the Mike Anderson era we DID mug the holy **** out of people and didn't seem to take as many cheap calls as we take now in Columbia.

And maybe if this was one of those Haith/Kermit teams full of shot-chasing transfer students who were just looking to get theirs and get gone, I'd be more cynical. But this team is just damn easy to root for and it makes it easier for them to hold my interest, even if that's frustrating as hell.

Pinson is a player. Elite ball-handling skills and developing elite scoring skills. Needs to tighten up his defense. NBA potential.

Jesus Christ. Jontay tore his ACL again.

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#MizzouThings

I think it’s a Porter thing

Porter things are a subset of Mizzou things.

How many is that for the siblings? 8, 9?

Vegan diet.

God damn 5 acl tears?!

There are other competitive athletes that are vegan and don't have this level of trouble. It's likely that genetics and diet are both contributors with the major cause being Mizzou

Think he'll come back to Missouri? He's going to fall like a rock in the NBA draft, not only because of injury history - but because he can't play next year.

Not according to some guys he won't.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Text from a league source on if Jontay Porter&#39;s latest ACL tear would drop him out of the first round of the NBA Draft:<br><br>&quot;Amazingly, not certain it will.&quot;</p>&mdash; TOM MARTIN (@TomKCTV5) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomKCTV5/status/1109593209435361280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Arkansas has parted ways with head coach Mike Anderson, sources confirmed to ESPN. <br><br>Kelvin Sampson has been the name linked to this job for months. Ties to the athletic director.</p>&mdash; Jeff Borzello (@jeffborzello) <a href="https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1110642785974210560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Oh darn....poor Suitcase.

Hes such a piece of shit

Hell at this point, I'd think the Arkansas job would be a step down from Houston. I mean it's the SEC, but Sampson has built up the Houston program into a pretty formidable team. Houston is a big market he can pull talent from. Arkansas hasn't been shit for almost 3 decades. Hell what if they beat UK on Fri?

When the hell is MU gonna make the tournament again?

I wonder if Mike Anderson ever stops and ponders what he could have done at Mizzou in 2011-12 with this lineup:

Ratliffe
Otto Porter
Kim English
Denmon
Phil Pressey

And a bench of:
Mike Dixon
Matt Pressey
Steve Moore

I’ve thought about it. With Anderson, I’m not sure that team improves offensively like it did... but would the injection of a do-it-all freshman perfect for that style of play have made it a moot point? How much of the offensive uptick in 11-12 was just Pressey developing?

All in the past, anyway. Arkansas will probably throw enough money at this to upgrade from Anderson.

Next year is big for Cuonzo Martin. It’s Year 3. It’s firmly his program, with the holdovers mostly cast off.

They need to be a tournament team, minimum.

Well, he appears to be plum out of Porters to be injured, so that helps.

I'd say Arky is probably a step up right now. More TV dollars flowing around the program and it seems the current upper level era WM exec's are more willing to pour money into the program. Will alao be easy to grab the spotlight since the fb program is shit.

I would think that he could still pull from the same market and use the allure of the SEC and all of its TV outlets to get better recruits.

So, does Arkansas hire Kermie now?

Show cause Sampson has to move jobs often enough to dodge the NCAA. He'll go there.

Mark Few said for a 5 mil per 10 year contract he would go coach at Arkansas or Nebraska. You guys should shitcan Conzo and get him.

Thatd be awesome

Santos is transferring. We also have Eric Williams Jr visiting, a transfer from Duquesne. It'll be interesting to see what Martin does with the open scholarships. Braun may be a candidate for one, and if he takes a scholarship it could be a good sign that he may have something to offer.

When I saw Santos playing last year I immediately assumed he'd transfer out. He looked completely incapable of playing at that level and kinda miserable trying.

I figured there'd be a heart to heart from the coaching staff politely encouraging him to seek success elsewhere because he probably wasn't going to be getting any more opportunities to find it in Columbia.

Good.

So I just became a fan of Sophie Cunningham's instagram page today.

Girl loves to show off her legs...She's got'em and she knows it. Good ass too.

Kind of a butterface, but w/ a lil makeup, not too bad. Would take to pound town.

Her sister is hotter.

No he didn’t

Jeremiah Tilmon declared for the draft, although I assume he'll withdraw when it's all said and done. Still, Mizzou is screwed if Tilmon was to leave or become unavailable due to injury. I can't say I agree with Cuonzo Martin's lack of recruiting any bigs right now. I don't feel great about counting on Mitchell Smith and Reed Nikko behind Tilmon.

I had no idea that he had declared. Good thing he changed his mind, for both himself and the team.

Now onto this season. Im really excited for the season to start. This should be a damn good year and I can't believe they got voted to finish so low in the SEC. Last year was a disappointment, but the season would have been a ton different with Jontay playing. Im stoked and my expectations are NCAA Tourney bid and Top 25 ranking to finish the season.

Lol what??

No one else looking forward to the season?

I’m in wait and see mode.

They have the depth and players to play up-tempo and put skilled guys on the floor and be really good.

But I don’t trust Cuonzo Martin to do it. He’s still going to waste 10-15 minutes a game on Reed ****ing Nikko, and another 10 on Mitchell Smith, and play too big and too slow.

They’ll win around 20 games and be on the bubble but I don’t expect much more.

I’m basically back where I was with Martin when they hired him: Not excited. I thought MAYBE his ardent supporters were right shortly after he came in - when he flipped Tilmon and looked poised to do really well recruiting St. Louis. Since then, he’s been pretty disappointing in St. Louis and my thoughts have returned to the original status.

I think he is what I thought he was. It’s worlds better than Kermit the Coach, but I’m not convinced he’ll ever reach the heights
Mike Anderson or evening Quin Snyder did.

You seem pretty down. Is the football suck leaking over and affecting you're judgement? Answer this, if Jontay would have played last year and we made the tournament do you think you'd have a different opinion?

I will keep tabs on the team when I can, but my wife would probably fear for my health and wellbeing if I kept up all through basketball seaaon too.

It’s mostly that I was never a big believer in Cuonzo Martin, briefly converted to being a believer, and now am a nonbeliever again.

His teams will always play hard and win somewhere between 17-22 games. But I just don’t think his recruiting is going to uptick enough, consistently, to be more than that.

He also plays a slow, antiquated style of basketball and is too insistent on cramming bigs into his lineup even when they suck (see all the minutes Puryear, Nikko, and Smith played last year).

They have the depth and players to play fast, push the pace, and go with skilled lineups more often than not. I think if they do that, this can be a 25 win team that can make some noise in the SEC and the NCaA tournament.

But I don’t think they will. I think Martin will:

1) play slow
2) play 2 bigs far too often (thus giving minutes to Nikko and Mitchell Smith that could go to Tray Jackson, Kobe Brown, Javon Pickett, and Torrance Watson instead)
3) win 20 games and be on the bubble like usual

Oh my ****ing God, go ahead and fire CM too. What a loser.

Bump for an update

They lost by 14. Kept getting close but couldn't every take over.

Might want the 2019-20 thread. Not that it’s been terribly active.

Ill look for it after the next game.

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Where is the new thread? Doesn't matter I guess. Just stopping by to say **** CUONZO MARTIN.

He can't shoot it for 'em.

They got a TON of great looks in that game and just didn't hit any of them.

And I'll say this AGAIN - I have never seen a team get screwed on close calls at home as often as I see Mizzou get screwed at home. The charge on Smith and the egregiously awful call on Pickett down the stretch completely shit all over a valiant comeback effort that looked like it might just happen.

I mean damn, you can't draw up a better play than that last play and Mark Smith got an amazing look - just missed the damn shot.

Because of course he did. Because they seem to miss everything. And it doesn't make sense because any long-term analysis of shooting will tell you that teams that hit their FTs are good shooting teams. There's a damn strong correlation there.

Well Mizzou has set the NCAA record for consecutive FTs made over the last two games and at the same time they've shot about 30% from the floor. It's just completely inexplicable. These guys know how to shoot the damn basketball, they just aren't doing it.

You cannot honestly tell me that this is wholly, or even primarily, on the players. This offense is lacking in so many fundamental ways; it honestly resembles a high school strategy in terms of simplicity, and in terms of execution at times with all the sloppy turnovers. A dribble-drive is all well and good, but if Mark Smith isn't shooting that 3, it's a low percentage shot (and they're wide open for a reason- they even admitted to playing the numbers against us, allowing the open 3s.)

And the vaunted Cuonzo Martin defense? Ranked 75th nationally.

Perhaps some of this is talent, but that's also on Cuonzo. No, he's run out of passes in terms of player execution; this is an indictment on coaching. Sorry for weird format and rambling sentences, I don't usually post on phone.

Also, Missouri basketball should rarely, if ever, lose to a team that bad at home.

Oh don't get me wrong - there's a Cuonzo problem on offense for sure. I've said as much in this very thread. And the decline of the defense over the last month or so is equally infuriating.

I mean that on this night, it's hard to pin much on Cuonzo. He got good looks for his best shooters (such as they are) and even had them fighting tooth and nail to the end.

Tonight isn't the night to shit on Cuonzo, IMO. He put his guys in positions to succeed routinely. They just didn't do it. And to the extent it's a development issue - well that's simply over my head. I don't have the knowledge of how he runs his practice or really even how I think one SHOULD run their practice. But again - these kids have a shooting stroke. It's there at the line.

It just falls apart from the field. There's some development happening, it's just happening in fits and starts and with results that are entirely too erratic.

I hate KU with a passion, but by God I envy the development their players go through over their college careers. Outside of a few outliers players simply do not develop under CM. His system is a joke and he can't recruit worth a damn.