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Bowser 01-26-2019 03:42 PM
Eat shit, Disney. Just buy a production company with a different name to keep all the adult stuff away from the kids.

penguinz 01-26-2019 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 14069813)
I moved on from that about his second episode in season 2 of Daredevil. Bernthal was born to play this role. It's a shame it is probably getting canceled just as the series hits its stride.
No guarantee it will be cancelled. Punisher second season has much better viewership than second season of Cage,Iron Fist and third season of Daredevil.

listopencil 01-28-2019 05:43 AM
Almost done with the new episodes. There was some character development and exposition scenes for secondary and tertiary characters that bogged it down, but it has been worth it so far. I will repeat this:





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By the way, just as a heads up, don't watch this show if you have PTSD.

Tribal Warfare 01-28-2019 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 14074987)
No guarantee it will be cancelled. Punisher second season has much better viewership than second season of Cage,Iron Fist and third season of Daredevil.

The big question is will Disney leave it alone for that production team to get free reign and have The Punisher stay on Netflix so it can maintain the TV-MA rating.

This will be dependent if they keep The Daredevil cast on their streaming network giving cohesion to Castle's narratives.

Sure-Oz 02-18-2019 10:53 AM
Jessica Jones and The Punisher officially cancelled. Marvel is officially dead on Netflix.

Now I can only hope Hulu Rescues Daredevil and Jessica Jones at minimum, if not all the shows.

@DEADLINE: ‘The Punisher’ & ‘Jessica Jones’ Canceled By Netflix; Latter’s 3rd Season Still To Air https://deadline.com/2019/02/the-pun...medium=twitter https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/...226496/photo/1

Sure-Oz 02-18-2019 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 14077137)
The big question is will Disney leave it alone for that production team to get free reign and have The Punisher stay on Netflix so it can maintain the TV-MA rating.



This will be dependent if they keep The Daredevil cast on their streaming network giving cohesion to Castle's narratives.
Netflix they're the ones that don't feel it's good for their business to hold on and start new seasons. Disney is ready to pull all their shit so Netflix feels it isn't worth trying to go forward with them. Once Daredevil got cancelled I knew it was over. Now have to hope Hulu jumps in cause Disney+ likely won't have these shows.

BigRedChief 02-18-2019 11:00 AM
I don’t get Netflix’s decisions on these. They are popular. Why not make the popular Marvel ones until the contract is up?

They paid $100 million just for a year of friends for crissakes.

Sure-Oz 02-18-2019 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14112414)
I don’t get Netflix’s decisions on these. They are popular. Why not make the popular Marvel ones until the contract is up?

They paid $100 million just for a year of friends for crissakes.
Well I just read that Disney is removing all of their movies once the service starts for Disney+ so it sounds like Netflix has no reason to continue to try to work with them. Sucks.

TambaBerry 02-18-2019 11:06 AM
what the ****! The punisher is so good, somebody better pick it up

Sure-Oz 02-18-2019 11:11 AM
@Collider: That's all, folks! Netflix has cancelled 'The Punisher' and 'Jessica Jones', bringing an official end to the Marvel Netflix TV Universe. http://bit.ly/2Ivxbea

Solid article on what's going on

BigRedChief 02-18-2019 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14112422)
what the ****! The punisher is so good, somebody better pick it up
how in the hell is anyone going to pick it up? Disney ain’t giving out rights to anything they own. They want to broadcast their own stuff. Keep the whole pie for themselves. Maybe they pick it up but that’s the only way.

Sure-Oz 02-18-2019 11:15 AM
@Marvel: A Letter to Marvel Television Fans from Jeph Loeb: http://bit.ly/2GxxPX0

Maybe there is hope? Hulu is the logical choice to get these shows with Disney's 60% ownership and they would have freedom to do what Netflix did

lawrenceRaider 02-18-2019 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 14112395)
Jessica Jones and The Punisher officially cancelled. Marvel is officially dead on Netflix.

Now I can only hope Hulu Rescues Daredevil and Jessica Jones at minimum, if not all the shows.

@DEADLINE: ‘The Punisher’ & ‘Jessica Jones’ Canceled By Netflix; Latter’s 3rd Season Still To Air https://deadline.com/2019/02/the-pun...medium=twitter https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/...226496/photo/1
fuck Netflix with a rusty fork.

If Hulu does pick these up, they'll be stealing viewers from Netflix. Hope it happens.

Bowser 02-18-2019 11:37 AM
**** Darth Mouse

BigRichard 02-18-2019 01:26 PM
This is why I thought Disney getting their hands into everything was going to end up badly.

Raiderhater 02-18-2019 07:55 PM
I knew it was coming and it is still depressing. Just as they get the character developed to the place we all want to see him the plug gets pulled. **** everyone responsible.

morphius 02-19-2019 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14112429)
how in the hell is anyone going to pick it up? Disney ain’t giving out rights to anything they own. They want to broadcast their own stuff. Keep the whole pie for themselves. Maybe they pick it up but that’s the only way.
Exactly. I figure there isn't much time before the Marvel shows other places get canned. Figure Disney is asking some outrageous numbers for the licensing.

Sure-Oz 02-19-2019 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by morphius (Post 14113679)
Exactly. I figure there isn't much time before the Marvel shows other places get canned. Figure Disney is asking some outrageous numbers for the licensing.
What I read is that Punisher is free to being used right now on other platforms. Netflix has a 2 year 'freeze' period on the rest of the shows before Disney/marvel can use them or the characters. Also Netflix owns the current episode catalog for all their marvel shows. Disney would have to pony up. Which possibly means they could use these characters on a new show on Hulu/plus if they wanted after 2 years but sounding hard to renew those shows individually without having the previous seasons.

morphius 02-19-2019 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 14113694)
What I read is that Punisher is free to being used right now on other platforms. Netflix has a 2 year 'freeze' period on the rest of the shows before Disney/marvel can use them or the characters. Also Netflix owns the current episode catalog for all their marvel shows. Disney would have to pony up. Which possibly means they could use these characters on a new show on Hulu/plus if they wanted after 2 years but sounding hard to renew those shows individually without having the previous seasons.
Why would they go to Hulu when they are coming out with their own streaming service by then?

Rausch 02-19-2019 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 14113357)
I knew it was coming and it is still depressing. Just as they get the character developed to the place we all want to see him the plug gets pulled. **** everyone responsible.
I was pumped for season 2 but once Disney/Marvel announced they were cutting ties with Netflix there was no point in watching.

Even if it was the greatest show on Netflix it's over and Disney won't be picking it up on their streaming service. Why bother?...

morphius 02-19-2019 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 14113739)
I was pumped for season 2 but once Disney/Marvel announced they were cutting ties with Netflix there was no point in watching.

Even if it was the greatest show on Netflix it's over and Disney won't be picking it up on their streaming service. Why bother?...
Yeah I could see that. I'd imagine that it would be a complete reboot if Disney does it.

unlurking 02-19-2019 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by morphius (Post 14113730)
Why would they go to Hulu when they are coming out with their own streaming service by then?
Disney owns 60% of Hulu...

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Hulu is owned by Hulu LLC, a joint venture with The Walt Disney Company (holds 30% stake),[9] 21st Century Fox (holds 30% stake), Comcast (via NBCUniversal; holds 30% stake),[note 1] and AT&T (via WarnerMedia; holds 10% stake).[2] Through a proposed acquisition announced in December 2017, Disney is to acquire Fox's partial ownership, giving it a majority stake if the deal closes.[10]

Sure-Oz 02-19-2019 10:03 AM
What a mess...future for streaming services is going to be annoying.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/li...er&utm_source=

sully1983 02-19-2019 10:14 AM
not surprised it got canceled (40% less viewership for season 2) and it just wasn't all that good imo .

Buehler445 02-19-2019 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 14113739)
I was pumped for season 2 but once Disney/Marvel announced they were cutting ties with Netflix there was no point in watching.

Even if it was the greatest show on Netflix it's over and Disney won't be picking it up on their streaming service. Why bother?...
Because the action is ****ing great. The story isn't as good as S1, but he definitely smokes some fools.

Raiderhater 02-19-2019 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 14113739)
I was pumped for season 2 but once Disney/Marvel announced they were cutting ties with Netflix there was no point in watching.

Even if it was the greatest show on Netflix it's over and Disney won't be picking it up on their streaming service. Why bother?...
I had mixed feelings about watching knowing it was probably going to be cancelled. But I don’t regret it. It was so much better than season 1 in terms of the character being the character that we were looking for. And honestly, with the boner inducing final scene you can just chalk it up to being an origin story series. I loved it and will rewatch season 2 of Dare Devil and season of this again when looking for a Punisher fix.

BigRedChief 02-19-2019 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 14113865)
What a mess...future for streaming services is going to be annoying.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/li...er&utm_source=
Yeah everyone is going their own way with their own streaming service and wants $8-$10 a month. Choice is going to be shit for a while till the inevitable consolidation of streaming services starts.

BigRichard 02-20-2019 09:23 AM
Everyone should stick with Netflix even if there are a ton of tempting things to get off of Disney. It would force them to not do stupid shit like this in the future.

keg in kc 02-20-2019 10:22 AM
Gonna end up spending more than I do for cable. Cause I ain't cutting Netflix, and Prime is getting better content every year, and there's shit I want to see on hulu (including, potentially these shows), and I'll have to watch the star wars shows on Disney+, and on and on.

NewChief 02-20-2019 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14115887)
Gonna end up spending more than I do for cable. Cause I ain't cutting Netflix, and Prime is getting better content every year, and there's shit I want to see on hulu (including, potentially these shows), and I'll have to watch the star wars shows on Disney+, and on and on.
I'm currently running:
Prime, Netflix, and HBO (through Prime). I also added CBS trial for Super Bowl, but I need to cut it. I imagine it will just auto charge me if I don't.

I've been watching the crap out of the RedBull TV app as well, as my son and I are both into mountain biking and such.

Sure-Oz 02-20-2019 02:02 PM
I've currently got Prime, Netflix and DCU (12 months for 5.99 mo + 3 more months are free). I won't drop Netflix...I'll probably get Disney+

Buddy loaned me his HBO now or I'd have that

Buehler445 02-20-2019 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14115887)
Gonna end up spending more than I do for cable. Cause I ain't cutting Netflix, and Prime is getting better content every year, and there's shit I want to see on hulu (including, potentially these shows), and I'll have to watch the star wars shows on Disney+, and on and on.
Yeah. That’s where it’s going to end up.

I’ve currently got:
Netflix - won’t dump it.
Amazon - essentially free. The shit I buy off Prime pays the video
Hulu - i got the Black Friday price. Not sure I’ll keep it after it goes to the regular rate.
HBOGo - my buddy and I are splitting it.

What do you like on HULU? I looked around some and the interface is a pain in the ass and is hard to find anything on.

Some of the stuff on YouTube looks OK too.

Beef Supreme 02-20-2019 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14116407)
Yeah. That’s where it’s going to end up.

I’ve currently got:
Netflix - won’t dump it.
Amazon - essentially free. The shit I buy off Prime pays the video
Hulu - i got the Black Friday price. Not sure I’ll keep it after it goes to the regular rate.
HBOGo - my buddy and I are splitting it.

What do you like on HULU? I looked around some and the interface is a pain in the ass and is hard to find anything on.

Some of the stuff on YouTube looks OK too.
I dumped Hulu, but the only reason to have it imo is if you don't have some form of regular TV service, but want to watch the weekly network shows. And they did change the interface like 6 months ago and it is terrible now.

BigRedChief 02-20-2019 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRichard (Post 14115780)
Everyone should stick with Netflix even if there are a ton of tempting things to get off of Disney. It would force them to not do stupid shit like this in the future.
I’ve been with Netflix since I got a month free because I rented DVD’s from them. I stayed as a paid member despite their slim content at the time.

I’ll stay with them this time also as all these big coglomos want take all their content away from everyone and keep it to themselves. And charge us NetFlix money for it.

Rausch 02-21-2019 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 14115234)
And honestly, with the boner inducing final scene you can just chalk it up to being an origin story series.
This is a good point.

I did some reading at work and apparently they don't plan to just ignore the Defenders characters. There's a 2 years holding period where Marvel/Disney can't touch them (but CAN use Punisher since he wasn't in the initial contract) and apparently do want to use the characters after that.

Honestly I think Disney would be better served to just make a 12-18 episode Defenders series and just completely abandon having any solo series with the characters. You can still have individual episodes that focus on Luke/Jones or Luke/Iron Fist but you avoid those 2 or 3 episode low points where they're just trying to stretch out to a set episode number.

Rausch 02-21-2019 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14116407)

What do you like on HULU? I looked around some and the interface is a pain in the ass and is hard to find anything on.
This.

I watch South Park and a few animated shows and that's it.

Buehler445 02-21-2019 08:36 AM
Agreed Rausch.

For those wondering, this cat does a pretty good job of sifting through all the dork information and putting into a media normal people can consume. Pretty good breakdown of the thing here.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/JY8w0u-bFC8" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Sure-Oz 02-21-2019 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 14117287)
This is a good point.



I did some reading at work and apparently they don't plan to just ignore the Defenders characters. There's a 2 years holding period where Marvel/Disney can't touch them (but CAN use Punisher since he wasn't in the initial contract) and apparently do want to use the characters after that.



Honestly I think Disney would be better served to just make a 12-18 episode Defenders series and just completely abandon having any solo series with the characters. You can still have individual episodes that focus on Luke/Jones or Luke/Iron Fist but you avoid those 2 or 3 episode low points where they're just trying to stretch out to a set episode number.
Do a heroes for hire and do daughter's of the dragon for Misty Knight and Colleen Wing. That'd be fine with me. As long as they get Charlie Cox back as DD at minimum.

Buehler445 02-21-2019 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 14117376)
Do a heroes for hire and do daughter's of the dragon for Misty Knight and Colleen Wing. That'd be fine with me. As long as they get Charlie Cox back as DD at minimum.
The most important one is Bernthal as the Punisher. Dude IS the Punisher.

Sure-Oz 02-21-2019 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14117381)
The most important one is Bernthal as the Punisher. Dude IS the Punisher.
Completely agree. I love him and Charlie Cox in their roles. I think Bernthal will be in the sopranos prequel.

Lzen 06-21-2019 09:42 PM
Just finished season 2. What a ****ing ending! And now I find out they canceled this show. DAMMIT!

007 06-22-2019 01:18 AM
Where the hell have you been for the last 4 months.


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