I forgot this was a Wilson thread. As far as Tyler Wilson goes...the limited sample size that I've seen from him, he reminds me a bit of Christian Ponder.

I'm totally for Wilson, but then again I was totally for Mallett as well (still am). Wilson is a leader, he's a tough kid, will stand in the pocket and deliver. Very good accuracy. Razorbacks are not good (and I'm a Hog fan), giving him no protection and as of last week, he was leading the SEC in passing. I believe that he was the leading passer in the SEC last year. SEC has the most NFL like defenses in the NCAA. He has stood up under horrible circumstances this year. I haven't seen anyone in college playing against the level of defenses that he faces and deliver like he has overall.

Im all in on Tyler Wilson. That's not to say he doesn't have some concerns, but imo, all three do. But i think Tyler has already seen a lot of what he'll see in the NFL and he's had success in the SEC, something the other two can't say.

I agree 100% but, why do you think Geno has "it?" Out of the three, he is the least clutch in my opinion. If he gets behind by a couple of scores, it seems to be over.

I lived in AR for 18 years. Big fan of the Hogs. Wilson is 5x the QB Mallett was.

Having that said, if our beloved Chiefs do not fix the FO problem, bring in good coaching,

none of these QBs are going to heal our pain!

I would not be suprised to see Wilson go #1 overall when it is all said and done.

This was a discussion about Bray.

When it comes to character, an incomplete grade is better than a negative grade.

Geno does what he is asked to do. That's the way it is in college. More than ever before, guys aren't being prepared to play in the NFL, they're being inserted into crazy motion and read offenses in an attempt to win college football games. Teams have finally figured out that these kinds of offenses can elevate a 2nd-tier team into a contender. Look at the QBs taken early the last few years.

Am going make a bold prediction & based off of Jerry Jones love for the Razorbacks. I predict the Cowboys trading up to get this kid. I'd love to see him as a Chief but I think Jerry Jones is going target the kid and hope that means he leaves Barkley or Geno Smith alone. The Cowboys are going be in the market for a QB and they are a player in the draft to contend with. ****ing DallASS Cowboys.

I hear you but, Geno hasn't shown he has "it" imo. When the game is on the line, he generally doesn't make the play that the QB has to make. For example, when you are down 21-7, you have to convert the 3rd and 5 to keep the drive going. He doesn't do that and he seems to lose his composure when he gets behind. He's not the least bit clutch in my opinion. He will have more opprotunities to prove he can do this.

Coming into the season I liked Bray the most also. Was used to the toughest competition on the SEC, had the size, has the best arm.

But then after watching him play several times this year, I'm convinced he should stay in school. He's just not ready. This guy if he is everything he's suppose to be should be dominating college football and he just isn't.

I think he has at least equal NFL potential as any other prospect this year.

I agree on the composure aspect. Big red flag to me.

Jay Cutler has the size, the best arm, and was tested against SEC competition too.

Sometimes guys just aren't winners.

Jay Cutler is a winner though. He wins in the NFL. I have no idea where you are coming from? Hell, he won some games at Vanderbilt and was the 2005 SEC Offensive Player of the Year. Do you know how hard it is to win at Vanderbilt? That's where smart people go to school. It's hard to get in there.

Some of you guys need to come back down to earth and quit talking Superbowls etc. We would be lucky to have Cutler. I have no idea how you can even begin to think that any of these three QBs will have a better career than Cutler. None of them have shown enough to warrant that opinion from what I have seen.

and I don't even like Jay Cutler....

You have the biggest double standard on QBs. You have no credibility on the subject.

Cutler is a royal douche. There is NOTHING to like about him unless you're a Jeff George fan.

Lolz, would we by "lucky" to have Rex Grossman, Mark Sanchez or Kordell Stewart? They are all "winners" in your book. They all have the same wining percentage in the NFL. No thanks, we need to aim a tad higher than this.

I do? ROFL

You say you want a QB with the "it" factor and you hitch your wagon to Geno Smith?

Personally, I don't think you know half of what you are talking about most of the time. Maybe it's because you don't have credibility with me?

I mean, look at this argument. You're the one that brought Cutler up asking for this but you really don't know a damn thing about the guy.

Bears fans seem to like him. They went through exactly what we went through trying to get a QB. Look at them now. They have the best shot at winning a Superbowl since 1985. I think we'd be lucky to have him.

http://www.dabears.com/showthread.ph...different-quot

Cutler is above the level of those QBs. He has the "it" factor. 13 fourth quarter comebacks and 17 game-winning drives is pretty damn good in six years.


Look at that 2006 draft and tell me if you see similarities?



Here's the order the first round QBs taken back then:

1. Vince Young - system QB

2. Matt Leinart - big shot USC guy

3. Jay Cutler - played for a bad team in the SEC



Don't most expect:

1. Geno Smith - system QB

2. Matt Barkley - big shot USC guy

3. Tyler Wilson - played for a bad team in the SEC

There is plenty to like about Cutler compared to those other 2006 guys.

I haven't hitched my wagon to anybody.

I like Smith's potential.

Yep, you're clueless.

OMG, did he really say "Cutler"?

LMAO

He said Cutler has "it". :hmmm:

It's not like he showed it the day before yesterday or anything ROFL. This is what "it" looks like on paper.

I'm shocked anybody takes his opinions seriously. major league tard is black rob.

he's a racist mother****er too. he walked in on me ****ing his whore of a mother, but only freaked out because I'm black. ****ed him up mentally, so he went to a therapist. one day, he walked in me sticking my dick in the white therapist lady's ass. he ran out of the room crying like a little bitch. hell, he flinches when he sees anybody black. he's a racist piece of shit and should be advised that racism isn't allowed on this forum.

racist asshole. we black people are people too--same ****ing species and everything. **** off, you racist dickhead.

I suppose herpes + suckage can constitute "it"...

This. He has to be the stupidest ****er ever on here and that is saying something.

ROFL

"IT" looks like THIS:

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos...7E-x-large.jpg

Not this:

http://blog.leagueplus.net/wp-conten...09/Cutler1.jpg

:facepalm: I finally understand you.

You are the guy that buys $1,000 worth of lottery tickets when the lottery gets over $200 million.

Nope. Your analogy is dumb.

I propose that the mods change his name to "Geno's Chocolate Penis".

Have we seen anything from any of these guys where we can say he has "it"?

ROFL Seconded

Wilson has definately shown it the most out of the three. However, the more I read about Mike Glennon, QB NC State, the more I like. He looks like the most clutch of the three. He also looks like the best leader. He has shown "it" multiple times and has led them back in some big games. He converted two 4th downs and a TD in the final minute to beat #3 ranked Florida State this year. That's exactly the sort of thing we need. Check out yesterday's article by Bucky Brooks from .

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=265929

Thirded

No.

But we've certainly seen enough of Jay Cutler to know he doesn't have "it".

I dont think thats a terrible comparison, but Wilson has a stronger arm

Game on.

He had a nice first drive.

Whoever says his toughness is questionable is ****ing nuts. He's just been absolutely hammered in this game as well, and he just keeps getting up.

I keep going back and forth between Wilson, Geno, and Barkley. I guess it really depends on the coach/offense we have. If it's a west coast offense, then Barkley would be the best guy. If it's a wide open/spread offense, then Geno. Wilson would probably be OK in any type of offense. The other two really need a scheme to fit their strengths.

Genobators will light you up if they see this...

Probably.

Wilson has stood in and delivered good throws against pressure. However a lot of his throws are short to wrs letting them make plays

Horrible throw for a pick. His stock is plummeting.

Turrible throw there

I like him.

Footwork is good, nice drop back, average arm...

Get a brain.

Wilson will be the third QB taken, probably in the 10-15 range. If we end up with him it is because we traded down

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--umsTrXBdg...ain-morans.jpg

You forgot Moran :)

Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71
Wilson shows some arm strength on that hitch route.

Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71
Tyler Wilson with a good strike, then under thrown deep ball WR adjusted and a quick strike on the screen. 60+ yds in 3 plays.

Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71
OH MY!! Tyler Wilson gets lit up by a free blitz but good throw and conversion. Unreal! Pops back up and ready to go next play.

Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71
You want to know how dumb Arkansas coaching staff is? QB has been killed on every PA attempt. So they run a PA/Boot wheel route.

Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71
Tyler Wilson knocked down 8 times in the game. 1 sack.

Arkansas's coaching staff is solely responsible for Wilson's lack of improvement this season, IMO.

No shit.

Uhhh. Yeah. Another year under Bobby Petrino, and Wilson is probably the top QB pick of the draft.

With South Carolina and LSU coming up im not sure if i want to see how hard he's going to be hit against those DL's...i think him playing hurt is affecting him too

Cobi Hamilton is money though

No doubt in my mind

Absolutely

That guys bears watching. He is getting a lot of Andre Johnson comparisons.

I know you are a big time Geno Ball Washer, but if you're honest with yourself, Geno was not the best QB yesterday. He looked the most raw of the three. Every game that goes by, i think both Barkely and Wilson are making a case that they should be drafted ahead of Geno.

Geno looks lost in the pocket. When his recievers are blanketed, he starts looking like Cassel.

Yeah, i said it. Like Cassel. He does not play well under pressure.

I'm starting to warm up a bit to Tyler Wilson, some really good arguments being made for him.

Gotta watch the games. Hell, i didn't believe in Barkely till i actually sat down and watched him these last few weeks. Previously i had just been listening to people here.

Big Mistake.

Three horse race right here. All 3 have Warts, all 3 have Elite potential.

I said it a couple of weeks ago - I've warmed up considerably to the idea of drafting Wilson.

I have real concerns about his leadership but it is pretty obvious he is in a situation that doesn't allow one to demonstrate much leadership.

Geno's footwork REALLY worries me.

I'd rather have a root canal than either one.

Who would you like as the Chiefs QB next season?

I'm not sure of the "elite" potential for any of them.

Watched the Tulsa game yesterday.

Saw a lot of things I liked. He's tough. Accurate & has a strong arm.

One consistent thing I saw that I didn't like was he throws off his back foot alot when facing pressure up the middle.

There was his first throw of the day (I believe) where he stood in there, stepped into this throw, took a massive shot but threw a pretty ball down the sideline. It was great. The rest of the game though? Would consistently throw off his back foot fading away against pressure up the middle and relying on his arm to hit those short crossing routes... Completed a lot of them but on the ones where it would be short, it was easy to see why.

Geno wouldn't be able to handle half the shots Wilson has taken thus far this season...

Wilson = Ponder.

How...?

Maybe so. I mean that 1st shot to talked about was about as big of a hit as you could take. But to his credit, he stood in there.

I don't know if that shot effected him the rest of the game but just relaying what I saw.

Overall I liked what I saw.

I don't think Ponder has the arm Wilson has.

This is the second game in a row where he's taken a big shot early then been somewhat rattled the rest of the game (last week, he actually got diagnosed with a hip pointer after the game, I believe). It's strange, because he took shots last year (the 'Bama game last year was UGLY) and kept on stepping in and delivering the ball. I think the hopelessness of this team has gotten to him. On top of that, there's no Bobby Petrino to hold their feet to the fire when they **** up. I'm not making excuses, but I can't really figure out why he seems to get more rattled this year than he did last year from those hard hits. He's still tough as shit, though.

He does'nt.

I don't know why people make this comparison.

If anything, I would compare Wilson to Rivers.

He doesn't.

Last years luck and griffin have some what blinded people about prospects.


Most years the top guys aren't locks like they were. Newton, Ryan , Big Ben, Eli etc had some question marks. Not all big ones but some questions

In almost every facet of the game, imo. Same size. He's a gunslinger with intangibles and ability to complete the throws necessary to succeed in the NFL. However, he has similar durability concerns as Ponder and the questionable decisions he makes every once in a while seem Ponder-esque to me. I consider him a mid-to-late 1st round pick...where Ponder should have been. Comparing him to Ponder isn't necessarily a bad thing...Ponder has flashed and he may improve... I just don't think Wilson is worth a top 1-5 pick where I am assuming the Chiefs will be selecting.

Wilson has durability concerns?

I can see that. Minus the odd delivery. Kind of a Rivers/Cutler combo, as ironic as that is considering those 2 hate each other.

That's not a good thing, IMO.