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cdcox 08-08-2011 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by noa (Post 7810610)
Further questions about scoring. First, on offensive linemen: I'm not familiar with actual OL statistics other than sacks given up, but what is more valuable, an OL who plays for a team with a top tier running game, or an OL who plays for a team that gives up few sacks and produces lots of passing yards?
As for defense, is there a way to factor in the fact that some CBs are thrown at very little because their coverage is so good? Or is it better to skew towards CBs who are going to produce real stats, like tackles and INTs?

If you plan to run a lot, you want OL that are generally considered to be good run blockers. If you plan to pass a lot, you want good pass blockers. If you plan a balanced attack, you want OL that does a reasonable job at both. Focus on individual linemen rather than the team's running ability.

I'm certainly not going to use an irrelevant stat like tackles to judge defensive backs. A shutdown corner who doesn't get thrown at much will be a great guy to have.

People will be better off if they don't worry about the scoring and just draft good football players.

cdcox 08-08-2011 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7810657)
Whens the draft?

If you are in league 1 it will say on your draft pages. The time will display correctly if you set your time zone under account management.

If you are in league 2 your draft will start 24 hours after the league is full.

cdcox 08-08-2011 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 7810542)
Will Safari (iOS) handle this ok?

iOS is all I have at home. Looks like the rookie draft page works...although i can only look at one page of players.

Veteran draft page shows no players. Im assuming it doesnt appear this way with chrome @ work.

hmmm. I don't have Safari installed on my computer. I'll check into it in a day or two.

Rain Man 08-08-2011 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 7810682)
If you plan to run a lot, you want OL that are generally considered to be good run blockers. If you plan to pass a lot, you want good pass blockers. If you plan a balanced attack, you want OL that does a reasonable job at both. Focus on individual linemen rather than the team's running ability.

I'm certainly not going to use an irrelevant stat like tackles to judge defensive backs. A shutdown corner who doesn't get thrown at much will be a great guy to have.

People will be better off if they don't worry about the scoring and just draft good football players.


This is a good point. The simulation system isn't going to be something like, "Peyton Manning is worth X points and Matt Cassel is worth Y points". It's going to be more complex and will take into account the combined strengths of all the players around these guys as well as your philosophy. If you're going to have a run-first team, the difference between Manning and Cassel will be smaller. If you're going to have a pass-first team, you're going to want to draft linemen who are good pass protectors. And none of those things are going to be measured by gross stats like number of receptions or number of tackles. It's more about productivity when the opportunity arises.

noa 08-08-2011 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 7810682)
If you plan to run a lot, you want OL that are generally considered to be good run blockers. If you plan to pass a lot, you want good pass blockers. If you plan a balanced attack, you want OL that does a reasonable job at both. Focus on individual linemen rather than the team's running ability.

I'm certainly not going to use an irrelevant stat like tackles to judge defensive backs. A shutdown corner who doesn't get thrown at much will be a great guy to have.

People will be better off if they don't worry about the scoring and just draft good football players.

This is very helpful. Thanks much.

TimeForWasp 08-08-2011 10:42 PM

Mine got messed up. Supposed to be The Sioux Falls Swagger, not the Sioux Falls Sioux Falls Swagger

cdcox 08-08-2011 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsNow (Post 7810724)
Mine got messed up. Supposed to be The Sioux Falls Swagger, not the Sioux Falls Sioux Falls Swagger

Fixed it, ChiefsChiefsNow.

And league 2 is full!

TimeForWasp 08-08-2011 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 7810729)
Fixed it, ChiefsChiefsNow.

And league 2 is full!

Thankthankyou:thumb: IThinkthink

007 08-08-2011 11:16 PM

May end up being more work than I want but I'll give it a try.

Topeka Tyrannicide

Crap. Looks like I have to wait for at least 22 more teams to join.

TimeForWasp 08-08-2011 11:19 PM

I may be in over my head. I do not know about the xs and os of football like most people here ,and I've never played fantasy football.

shorman22 08-08-2011 11:24 PM

Looking trade down from 10

TimeForWasp 08-08-2011 11:34 PM

This thread should have a sticky in my opinion.

shorman22 08-08-2011 11:44 PM

Yes it does anybody want to trade to pick 10 in league 2

DMAC 08-09-2011 07:35 AM

Is the whole screen supposed to refresh when I move a player to the draft board or change the order of the draft board?

Old Dog 08-09-2011 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 7810935)
Is the whole screen supposed to refresh when I move a player to the draft board or change the order of the draft board?

Mine is as well, so I assume so. Looking to be a pain in the butt to be honest.

noa 08-09-2011 07:48 AM

Is there any way to make the draft pause at a certain hour at night? I realize I can set up my draft board to handle situations where I am not around, but I have been playing with it a lot and still think it would take a substantial amount of work to have things lined up the way I'd like.
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tooge 08-09-2011 07:53 AM

I'm probably a reerun, but I'm trying to set up my board, and all I get are the guys whos name starts with the letter A as options. How do I scroll down?

Dartgod 08-09-2011 08:05 AM

I'm in as The Provo Lone Wolf Pack

tooge 08-09-2011 08:06 AM

just curious. why aren't all players part of every teams draft board automatically, then we can just move them up or down. It is taking me about a minute per player to add to draft board on IE

DMAC 08-09-2011 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 7810985)
just curious. why aren't all players part of every teams draft board automatically, then we can just move them up or down. It is taking me about a minute per player to add to draft board on IE

Still has to refresh to move up or down. This will take a while...

rageeumr 08-09-2011 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 7810991)
Still has to refresh to move up or down. This will take a while...

Ya I have the same problem with FF. Downloaded chrome just to try it, and same deal. I have a crappy ISP here at work, but I was having the same problem at home where I typically have ~12 Mbps.

I basically gave up on setting up an exhaustive draft board and I'm going to roll the dice that I can be around for a lot of my picks.

AndChiefs 08-09-2011 08:31 AM

I would suggest changing the players listings to be by position rather than one long list. For instance, if I really want a QB in round three it should be simple for me to look and see what QB's are still available so I can determine which ones to target.

With a huge, long list I'm practically guaranteed to miss an attractive drafting target and end up with a lesser team.

rageeumr 08-09-2011 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AndChiefs (Post 7811035)
I would suggest changing the players listings to be by position rather than one long list. For instance, if I really want a QB in round three it should be simple for me to look and see what QB's are still available so I can determine which ones to target.

With a huge, long list I'm practically guaranteed to miss an attractive drafting target and end up with a lesser team.

Ya, but it's just so hard to know what I will want. If there's an insane run on QB's, you could be stuck with Tyler Palko if you wait until the 3rd round.

noa 08-09-2011 08:37 AM

If possible to add this functionality, I think it would be very helpful if we could put a number next to the players on our draft board to represent their priority, rather than having to click the up or down arrows many times.
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AndChiefs 08-09-2011 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by rageeumr (Post 7811047)
Ya, but it's just so hard to know what I will want. If there's an insane run on QB's, you could be stuck with Tyler Palko if you wait until the 3rd round.

Then set up a draft board for that round with several different positions. I.E. If Cassel gets drafted here than I want Steve Breaston. If Breaston gets drafted than I want Ricky Stanzi. (Yes I realize that no one in their right mind would draft in this kind of order just using Chiefs for examples).

In the current listing you may not realize that Breaston was still available because you didn't go looking specifically for his name. Therefore, you end up with Stanzi instead of your top choice which would've been Breaston. (Assuming Cassel was drafted in the round of course).

Iowanian 08-09-2011 09:24 AM

First thoughts.

It's a little clunky to set your draft board, specifically, I don't like that it resets the order of the names list after every move. Also, in a perfect world, there would be some stats from the previous year, position rankings last year?

The other consideration.....is this a single year roster? Are we building a dynasty team? IS there a salary cap or any considerations like that?

The Franchise 08-09-2011 09:48 AM

Anyone in any of the other leagues who wants to move up and take my team? I gotta back out. I'm not going to have the time for this.

Fat Elvis 08-09-2011 10:15 AM

I have my first three rounds ready to go.

Fat Elvis 08-09-2011 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 7810991)
Still has to refresh to move up or down. This will take a while...

It takes a long while.

Fat Elvis 08-09-2011 10:20 AM

The user interface was created by Domo.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MY1v3YfYfy..._domo_kun.jpeg

cdcox 08-09-2011 10:21 AM

I'm trying to do my real job today, so I won't be on much until evening. However a quick mid-day update.

1. To find all of the QBs, type "qb" in the search box above the player lists. The search function is good and fast because the page doesn't have to reload. This will at least make it easy to find players.

2. Yeah, the draft board sucks. In development mode I was running with a test database of about 10 or 15 players on my localhost and it ran great. Not so much with 1800 players and going through a shared host and networks. It is going to need some kind of rework, but it will probably take a few days, maybe longer.

3. Email notification is close to being done. I should have that working tonight. So that will help with manually drafting during working hours.

4. I'm considering not advancing who is on the clock between midnight and 6:00 AM Central time. You could still draft, but your time slot would not expire during those hours. Honestly, after the first 5 rounds or so, I don't think it will matter that much if you miss a couple of slots. I'm a little worried about getting that coded correctly on short notice and it will significantly slow down the draft. I'm really on the fence on this one. What do you think?

5. If we need to extend the draft by a week or two into the beginning of the season, it probably wouldn't be the end of the world.

Thanks for your patience and honest feedback. We really want to make this work.

cdcox 08-09-2011 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 7810965)
I'm probably a reerun, but I'm trying to set up my board, and all I get are the guys whos name starts with the letter A as options. How do I scroll down?

Should be a scroll bar on the edge of the list.

Also, do more searching and less scrolling.

cdcox 08-09-2011 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 7811171)

The other consideration.....is this a single year roster? Are we building a dynasty team? IS there a salary cap or any considerations like that?

Dynasty team. No salary cap in version 1, maybe later.

rageeumr 08-09-2011 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 7811260)
4. I'm considering not advancing who is on the clock between midnight and 6:00 AM Central time. You could still draft, but your time slot would not expire during those hours. Honestly, after the first 5 rounds or so, I don't think it will matter that much if you miss a couple of slots. I'm a little worried about getting that coded correctly on short notice and it will significantly slow down the draft. I'm really on the fence on this one. What do you think?

I'm in favor of this.

One more thing - it appears that the default penalty for missing your pick is that you get skipped. Is there any way to change this to reverting to your draft board? I can see a lot of issues with people forgetting to check the autopick box, especially overnight.

tooge 08-09-2011 10:48 AM

Sorry, this is too slow for me right now. Good luck guys! I love the idea though. If anyone wants my team (Flint Knappers), PM me and you can take it over. It is league 1

patteeu 08-09-2011 10:50 AM

I'm in. First pick on my draft board is Derrick Johnson because I hear that linebackers who return INTs for TDs are good.

Toadkiller 08-09-2011 10:53 AM

Wow the interface is so slow for me, trying to do this at work and it just is painful. I am going to also have to back out of my team, just don't have that amount of time that this will take.

Rain Man 08-09-2011 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 7811264)
Should be a scroll bar on the edge of the list.

Also, do more searching and less scrolling.

The search function is wicked fast. I initially avoided it, but it's peachy keen.

Rain Man 08-09-2011 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by AndChiefs (Post 7811035)
I would suggest changing the players listings to be by position rather than one long list. For instance, if I really want a QB in round three it should be simple for me to look and see what QB's are still available so I can determine which ones to target.

With a huge, long list I'm practically guaranteed to miss an attractive drafting target and end up with a lesser team.

As cdcox mentioned, you can search "qb" and it's fast. Alternately, you can click on the little position thingie to sort by position and that works pretty nicely.

David. 08-09-2011 10:58 AM

Doesn't even take that long you lazy bastards. Nfl.com + search = done in 15 minutes.
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AndChiefs 08-09-2011 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7811361)
As cdcox mentioned, you can search "qb" and it's fast. Alternately, you can click on the little position thingie to sort by position and that works pretty nicely.

Okay that makes it a bit easier. I assumed search function would only search names not positions.

AndChiefs 08-09-2011 11:05 AM

One quick thing I noticed...in the rookie draft there are two guys listed as "RB" all the others are listed as "HB". Could be easy to miss those two.

Rain Man 08-09-2011 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by shorman22 (Post 7810767)
Yes it does anybody want to trade to pick 10 in league 2

What are you asking? I'm the Duluth Pillagers.

shorman22 08-09-2011 11:22 AM

I'm getting an error when I go to propose trade...so that needs to get fix before I send it. Late first and early second and I throw u my 78th overall.

RockChalk 08-09-2011 11:59 AM

I'm currently in League 3. I will take over Tooge's spot in League 1 if nobody else has spoken for it yet.

Rain Man 08-09-2011 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by shorman22 (Post 7811437)
I'm getting an error when I go to propose trade...so that needs to get fix before I send it. Late first and early second and I throw u my 78th overall.

Oh, wait. You're in League 2. My bad. I'm in League 1.

Rain Man 08-09-2011 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 7811565)
I'm currently in League 3. I will take over Tooge's spot in League 1 if nobody else has spoken for it yet.

How many are in League 3 right now? We've got a couple of other League 1 spots that opened up, so I'm sure cdcox can get you moved over.

007 08-09-2011 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7811621)
How many are in League 3 right now? We've got a couple of other League 1 spots that opened up, so I'm sure cdcox can get you moved over.

Move me over

RockChalk 08-09-2011 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7811621)
How many are in League 3 right now? We've got a couple of other League 1 spots that opened up, so I'm sure cdcox can get you moved over.

Only 8 when I signed up. I'd appreciate it if I could get moved over to League 1

What do I need to do?

Fat Elvis 08-09-2011 12:17 PM

How do you know what league you are in?

Rain Man 08-09-2011 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 7811627)
Only 8 when I signed up. I'd appreciate it if I could get moved over to League 1

What do I need to do?


PM cdcox and he'll get to it when he can.

Rain Man 08-09-2011 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7811626)
Move me over

PM cdcox. We'll need to fill the League 1 openings.

RockChalk 08-09-2011 12:19 PM

Nevermind. Tooge gave me his info. How can I get his Log-in information changed over to mine?

Also, I will need my team in League 3 deleted. I was the Ventura Highway's

Rain Man 08-09-2011 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 7811636)
How do you know what league you are in?

That's a really good question. We'll need something to spell that out.

For the time being, if you can set up a draft board you're in either League 1 or League 2. If the Duluth Pillagers are the 2nd pick in the veteran draft you're in League 1, otherwise League 2.

Rain Man 08-09-2011 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 7811648)
Nevermind. Tooge gave me his info. How can I get his Log-in information changed over to mine?

Also, I will need my team in League 3 deleted. I was the Ventura Highway's


Cool. cdcox will take care of these things, but you might want to pm him.

RockChalk 08-09-2011 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7811660)
Cool. cdcox will take care of these things, but you might want to pm him.

I PM'd him. Thanks!

007 08-09-2011 12:26 PM

Great. First to respond in this thread but probably last to PM. Wish you would have said to PM cdcox in the first place.

DMAC 08-09-2011 12:27 PM

I will be unable to draft unless I am at work due to being on iOS at home.

Rain Man 08-09-2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7811675)
Great. First to respond in this thread but probably last to PM. Wish you would have said to PM cdcox in the first place.

We're a startup. Not all systems are working perfectly yet, but we're making progress. Please pardon our dust.

Rain Man 08-09-2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 7811677)
I will be unable to draft unless I am at work due to being on iOS at home.

Oh! Oh! Set up your draft board! You can be the guy who tests its mettle!

DMAC 08-09-2011 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7811682)
Oh! Oh! Set up your draft board! You can be the guy who tests its mettle!

Im workin on it. It is jumbling up the order. It goes from 1 to 10 to 11 to 2.

Rain Man 08-09-2011 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 7811690)
Im workin on it. It is jumbling up the order. It goes from 1 to 10 to 11 to 2.

Yeah, that's a bug we're fixing. It's sorting them alphabetically rather than numerically. The numbers are correct, so don't worry about the order.

DMAC 08-09-2011 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7811699)
Yeah, that's a bug we're fixing. It's sorting them alphabetically rather than numerically. The numbers are correct, so don't worry about the order.

Autopick...ACTIVATED.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...obotsymbol.jpg

shorman22 08-09-2011 12:58 PM

I'll move over

Dartgod 08-09-2011 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7811621)
How many are in League 3 right now? We've got a couple of other League 1 spots that opened up, so I'm sure cdcox can get you moved over.

Only if I can keep my team name.

I really want to be The Provo Lone Wolf Pack

rageeumr 08-09-2011 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 7811753)
Only if I can keep my team name.

I really want to be The Provo Lone Wolf Pack

No way dude. Provo is on lock in League 1. I will turn it over (jersey number style) but I require 2 1sts and a 3rd.

Dartgod 08-09-2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rageeumr (Post 7811759)
No way dude. Provo is on lock in League 1. I will turn it over (jersey number style) but I require 2 1sts and a 3rd.

I'll wait patiently. No one can compete with a team that has cheese AND wolves in it's name.

AustinChief 08-09-2011 02:03 PM

Seriously, St Jo Stetsons? ouch... that's just mean!

Rain Man 08-09-2011 02:13 PM

Okay, 30 minutes to draft start. cdcox isn't available right now, so let's hope it all goes well.

Rain Man 08-09-2011 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7811894)
Seriously, St Jo Stetsons? ouch... that's just mean!

You should become the Abilene Mean Fighting Machines.

shorman22 08-09-2011 02:16 PM

Am I in league 1 now?

rageeumr 08-09-2011 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7811942)
Okay, 30 minutes to draft start. cdcox isn't available right now, so let's hope it all goes well.

Isn't it an hour and a half?

And is anybody else having issues with the site? I haven't been able to load it for about 10 minutes or so.

DMAC 08-09-2011 02:18 PM

ITS DOWN grob

Rain Man 08-09-2011 02:19 PM

Crapola. The site's down. I hope this means that cdcox is just in there fixing something, because there's no other reason we would expect. We might have to stand down until he gets home from work. I sent him an e-mail.

Rain Man 08-09-2011 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by shorman22 (Post 7811951)
Am I in league 1 now?

Not sure yet. If you haven't heard from cdcox, probably not at this point.

KurtCobain 08-09-2011 02:21 PM

I can't find an appropriate face palm.

Rain Man 08-09-2011 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 7811977)
I can't find an appropriate face palm.

I'll send you a picture of me doing it.

I'm guessing that cdcox is working on something and that it'll be up soon. Stay tuned.

Rain Man 08-09-2011 02:49 PM

Crappity crappity crap. Stay tuned.

While you're waiting, enjoy the heartwrenching music of Mr. Conway Twitty.

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Rain Man 08-09-2011 02:50 PM

It's up! It's up! The draft is on!

David. 08-09-2011 02:59 PM

Hope my auto board works. Stupid job makes me not be at home.
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