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Lzen 01-31-2023 08:39 AM

This is an amazing stat and shows how great Mahomes has been in his short time so far in the NFL. But at the same time, it doesn't show how much better those stats could have been had he had good defenses. /shrug

Bearcat 01-31-2023 08:53 AM

The stats are just incredible for conference championship games, after removing "playoff teams" like the Steelers and Texans.

2/3rds of the way to Brady in touchdowns in only 1/3rd of the games, yet only on pace for ~6 picks to his 17.


https://i.imgur.com/A7nO7rZ.png

the steam 01-31-2023 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16780112)
the undisputed king of playoff QBs right here folks

highest winning percentage in postseason history among QBs with at least 10 starts

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...M0fBc&usqp=CAU

Needs to be in the HOF

Marcellus 01-31-2023 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16780069)
It's nice that he's moving up the list, but I really dislike the QB Wins stuff. KC has had
2 amazing team wins the last couple weeks featuring big time contributions from a bunch of guys across the roster. The same thing could be said for a million other games in the past featuring the all-time big name QB's.

Nah, there is a reason that basically the only QB's in the AFC to go to the SB were Brady, Roethlisberger, and Manning for a long time.

Its a QB driven league, period, now more than ever.

ChiTown 01-31-2023 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by straycash (Post 16780368)
what* what?

https://media0.giphy.com/media/LRgZH...=200w.gif&ct=g

Gary Cooper 01-31-2023 10:03 AM

Joe Flacco is 10-5 in the playoffs. All those road wins. Yet he's not sniffing the HOF.

Mahomes has a chip on his shoulder since he struggled in both Super Bowls, outside of the 4th quarter against the 49ers.

Then again, even Tom Brady has critics. You can't satisfy everyone. There is no undisputed GOAT in just about any sport.

htismaqe 01-31-2023 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16780134)
This is probably a little harsh on Jim Kelly, because he was injured for the first 2 playoff games in 1993 which the Bills won with Frank Reich at QB. You'd guess he would have 11 wins otherwise.

You also have to keep in mind that they were probably a top 2 seed every year so they weren't getting a full slate of games.

Of course, Mahomes hasn't ever played in a championship game on the road, so that says even more about Mahomes.

Kman34 01-31-2023 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16780450)
The stats are just incredible for conference championship games, after removing "playoff teams" like the Steelers and Texans.

2/3rds of the way to Brady in touchdowns in only 1/3rd of the games, yet only on pace for ~6 picks to his 17.


https://i.imgur.com/A7nO7rZ.png

Why is Joe Montana listed as AFC? Is it because the last one he played was with the Chiefs? And shouldn’t his be spilt 6/1? IDK..

Eleazar 01-31-2023 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16780837)
You also have to keep in mind that they were probably a top 2 seed every year so they weren't getting a full slate of games.

Of course, Mahomes hasn't ever played in a championship game on the road, so that says even more about Mahomes.

It's an imperfect measure that may be more kind than it should be to some (Flacco) and harsher than it should be on others (Kelly). But, all measures are imperfect measures.

I just found it remarkable that even with all the caveats, and even acknowledging that it takes the effort of a whole franchise to win a playoff game not just a QB, when it's all said and done the list still sorts more or less in the order of all-time greatness for a QB.

Eleazar 02-13-2023 12:32 PM

OP updated.

There are now only 10 QBs all-time with more playoff wins than Patrick Mahomes, who is 27.


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