Flag football through grade 8, tackle football starts in the 9th grade. Nothing wrong with kids learning the game before they have to worry about getting pummeled. That also reduces the problem of that one kid who already has a beard in 7th grade.

My apologies. I've misinterpreted your posts on this subject.

Copy that, its all good :thumb:

The issue is many don't have a say in it. Some parents just make their kids go play football. I don't project that on kids. Now, I do not agree that people claim football for those 18+ is morally wrong, because they have a choice and are of age to make decisions.

One of the problems is that it isn't the tackling that is the problem. Wrapping your arms around a guy, bringing him to the ground - that's not what gives concussions.

It's the hits across the middle.

But, if you play essentially flag football until junior varsity, a TON of problems go away.

1. The sheer number of hits on the developing brain dramatically reduces. A lot of the research shows it's the amount of hits the brain takes over time vs. the couple big ones in the NFL.

2. It trains players to see the game as execution and not aggression. You don't learn from a young age that you go lay the wood on a guy. You learn to take good angles and read the play.

3. It allows parents to keep their kids in youth football. We are seeing attrition of good, young athletes who pick a different sport. This way, you can let your kid play until they're 16/17 years old, and by that time, if they have significant talent, it will have manifested, and they will already be getting recruited by universities and colleges. Then, you can make an informed decision about continuing to play tackle football.

I think JV is the way I would go, personally.

I for one am shocked that the usual clown car of Trump tards are calling California pussies for making common sense laws.

I loved playing football but concussions are real and my kids will not be playing it. It's a dying sport whether you like it or not.

Can we have a national referendum( non-binding) on whether CA should secede?

California is welcome to do as it pleases, but a ban is unneccesary

8th graders and below arent packing the mass, speed, or strength to dole out enough concussions with the frequency needed to cause lasting damage... concussions do happen, my bell got rung a few times playing junior league ball, same with my son

But kids that age are resilient, they can bonk their heads playing soccer or riding a bike too... its part of growing up