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T-post Tom 02-13-2019 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14104997)
Trade our 2019 1st round pick and a future 2020 pick (3rd to 4th range) for Jalen Ramsey.

Ramsey's contract ends after 2019. We'd be trading a first round and other picks for a one year player unless we extend or franchise tag him. Not going to happen with other signings coming up. Top 5 CBs are commanding about $14M -$15M a year right now. Ramsey will probably want more than that. I'm guessing the Chiefs go CB in 1st round, whether they stay put at 29 or move up. Good move if they can get a starter on a rookie contract with a 5th yr option.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 02-13-2019 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 14105171)
Yeah I dont get how some fans mention tagging and trading Ford when anyone who has a clue knows it is not happening.

Veach has pretty much said it clearly that they are counting on him to play for this defense next year.

Exactly!

Chris Meck 02-13-2019 04:29 PM

i posted this a week or two ago.Tag and trade Ford-receive GB's #30 pick, Roger is 35. They're going all in to get back in the hunt immediately.

Houston, Berry, Sorensen- (Dirty Dan any time, doesn't matter.) June 1 cuts free up: $27.7

2019 cap room: Spotrac estimates $36 million. I've seen $44 and as low as $28 so I'm taking the median.

I re-sign: Sherman, Butker, Allen, Devey, West, Lucas. roughly $11 million total.

FA:
I sign Landon Collins, SS to a 5 year deal at $9.4 per. He'll be 30 when the deal is up.

I sign KJ Wright to a 3 year deal at $7 million per. He's 30, coming off an injury season so that's about right. A leader on field, plays SAM. Seahawks will move on.

I sign Chris Long to a 2 year deal at $3 million per. Veteran stop gap, high leadership quality, still had 7 sacks in 2018.

Draft: Chiefs have #29, #30, #61, #64, #92 in first 3 rounds, no 4th, plus 5, 6, 7.

#29 Jaylon Ferguson, DE/Edge, Lousiana Tech
#30 Deandre Baker, CB, Georgia
#61, Rock Ya-Sin, CB, Temple. Spags likes CB's early and often.
#64 CJ Conrad, TE, Kentucky. Reid gets a new toy with a #2 TE that can actually catch the ball. Hey, he blocks, too! What do you know.
#92 Erik McCoy, OC, Texas A&M. competes with Reiter day 1 to start.
#156, Joe Gaziano, DT, Northwestern. solid pass rusher, high motor guy.
#187 D'Cota Dixon, S, Wisconsin. Ball hawking FS.
#192 Porter Gustin, OLB, USC. Future SAM prospect.

with the June 1 savings, I extend Jones and Hill.

Collins, Jones, and the young guys are the future of the defense. Long and Wright add strong leadership, mentoring the young guys, have been leaders on strong defenses and still have a little left in the tank.
CB-Baker, Fuller, Ya-Sin, Ward (now a killer corps)
at S, Collins, Lucas, Watts, and Dixon is real solid and versatile.
LB corps with Hitchens, O'Daniel and Wright looks good.
D-line, Long rotates with Ferguson at RDE, Jones, Nnadi, Gaziano looks good inside, Speaks/Kpass at LDE is solid.

Added a C and a nice TE for Reid to play with.

And it would all fit under the cap. Most importantly, I didn't do anything to screw the team cap-wise in the future. Reasonable deals and as long as we draft well, we're in the hunt every year.

*I used Spotrac's market estimations for all FA deals.

Skyy God 02-13-2019 04:32 PM

Chris Long isn’t a FA, for the record.

Chief Pagan 02-13-2019 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14105027)
you have to look at current cap hit which isnt that much but probably along the lines of 6-7 million for those three and a collins for probably be right at 10 million a year. Berrys terrible contract will eventually stop hurting so much. These things can be done. Look what the rams did last year

I'm far more interested to find out what the Rams do in the next several years. If those contracts don't come back to bite them, then, and only then, will I believe that is a good model.

The rams went all-in for one year. KC should have a longer horizon.

Chris Meck 02-13-2019 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 14105194)
Chris Long isn’t a FA, for the record.

I'd read he was expected to be.

Nightfyre 02-13-2019 04:53 PM

We need to bring in Paradis and Collins in FA, imo. I love the Idea of adding Patrick Peterson though. It may cost more than a late second though.

TambaBerry 02-13-2019 04:58 PM

Bottom line is if we tag Ford and keep him we can't do shit in free agency, that means Houston would have to be cut to get his 14 million cap space back.

Chris Meck 02-13-2019 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14105226)
Bottom line is if we tag Ford and keep him we can't do shit in free agency, that means Houston would have to be cut to get his 14 million cap space back.

You can't keep them both.

I'd prefer to not keep either and seek budget FA's elsewhere as short term plugs.

New World Order 02-13-2019 05:21 PM

Cut Houston and flip a second for AJ Bouye

Draft Mack Wilson, ILB Alabama

Sign an impact safety like Amos or Earl Thomas

Sign a solid pass rusher/run defender

Buckweath 02-13-2019 05:22 PM

Yeah let's get rid of two of the 3 players who gave this team a top 5 pass rush last year.

And those who say that would be the first ones complaining about the lack of pass rush next year.

I cant believe how some are taking that pass rush for granted.

If Ford and Houston leave, I guarantee that the passrush will be worse next year and maybe a lot worse.

Ford was great last year. He will be playing for this team next year and I'm just as ecstatic as Veach about that.

Kiimo 02-13-2019 05:29 PM

It's some seriously optimistic thinking to just pencil in Speaks as a starter when he hasn't done jack on the field yet.

Wishful thinking. You can say "I hope he's as good as we thought and he can start". I agree with that. But saying he's the starter? WHY? Other than that's what you hope for.

Chris Meck 02-13-2019 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 14105256)
It's some seriously optimistic thinking to just pencil in Speaks as a starter when he hasn't done jack on the field yet.

Wishful thinking. You can say "I hope he's as good as we thought and he can start". I agree with that. But saying he's the starter? WHY? Other than that's what you hope for.

You have to assume that your young players improve and become players. It's not possible in the modern NFL to play any other way.

It's not true that Speaks didn't show anything. he showed pretty well as a pass rusher, and decent against the run. he looked bad at coverage, which he won't be asked to do anymore as a DE.

Tribal Warfare 02-13-2019 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 14104988)
Cap is overrated - when there are ways a team can structure.

Clark is the Finance chair, he laughs at the cap

pugsnotdrugs19 02-13-2019 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14105235)
You can't keep them both.

I'd prefer to not keep either and seek budget FA's elsewhere as short term plugs.

Tough to get rid of both IMO when you’re the SB favorite. :shrug:


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