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MIAdragon 11-21-2023 07:32 AM

It is what it is, this is the team as constructed by Burt and Andy. Pretty egregious mistake, that’s hopefully addressed next season.

Bearcat 11-21-2023 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17236572)
If he was going to make any big changes it would have been in the bye week and he didn’t. That’s why yesterdays game is so frustrating. Nothing changed. And the team we saw yesterday and basically all season the way the offense runs won’t win a Super Bowl.

We will end up losing in identical fashion where we dominate but dumb self inflicted mistakes beat us. Like Belicheck said, you lose way more games than you win, and this team has consistently shown not to be mistake free enough consistently to overcome their severe WR disadvantage to win 3-4 playoff games in a row.

We say this shit every year though.

Last year it was all the close losses in December to shit teams. Two years ago it was that 6 week stretch and then a few other games, three years ago they weren't beating the Falcons and other teams by enough points, 4 years ago they were 6-4, 5 years ago the defense sucked balls, 6 years ago.... oh wait, that was Alex.

Eleazar 11-21-2023 07:35 AM

There’s nothing you can do other than try to coach them to execute. The personnel isn’t good enough and it can’t be improved at this point in the year. The guys who aren’t on the same page with Mahomes have been here for multiple years and just don’t seem to get it.

They whiffed on the position in the offseason, and now we have a WR group that is basically Rice with some substandard slot guys and gadget players. There’s no way to make chicken salad here.

JPH83 11-21-2023 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17236529)
NOW.

Not last March. No 'what I would've done is...'.

What would you do NOW?

I would stop with the rotation at WR.

I'm playing Rice and Toney every play unless they need a breather. They are the two most talented.

I'm putting Hardman in MVS' spot. He's the fastest, and MVS never played big anyway. run ****ing go routes until you drop, Mecole. If they don't pull a safety over, we'll chuck it to you.

When Hardman needs a breath, send Watson out there.


Probably run a lot of 21.

Keep feeding Pacheco.

Simplify as much as you can.

I told you stopping the rotation was it :-). But yeah most of what you say I'd go with. I'm probably have Toney taking some of those MVS routes too, he's got the juice to separate early and he at least can track a ball and catch...probably.

Obviously drop Moore's snaps substantially and make sure they're all from the slot. I'd probably activate James and see if he can operate there too.

Chris Meck 11-21-2023 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17236567)
I'd personally panic, check CP, sign every broke dick FA WR this week that I could while stress eating In-A-Tub and watching the 2021-22 Divisional Round game over and over.


ROFL

notorious 11-21-2023 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 17236581)
There’s nothing you can do other than try to coach them to execute. The personnel isn’t good enough and it can’t be improved at this point in the year. The guys who aren’t on the same page with Mahomes have been here for multiple years and just don’t seem to get it.

They whiffed on the position in the offseason, and now we have a WR group that is basically Rice with some substandard slot guys and gadget players. There’s no way to make chicken salad here.

If they can serve the basic function that high school wide receivers do this team will win another superbowl.

They've been in position to make the play, they just didn't catch a football. Something they do hundreds of times a day.

I'm not going to lose the faith. It's been historically ugly up to this point, but I'm not giving up on them.

Sassy Squatch 11-21-2023 07:40 AM

Uhh, why do people keep pointing to Rice as being anything other than a JAG with the rest? He's maintaining the same substandard production despite having how workload nearly doubled and the dude drops balls just like the rest of them. I keep seeing this sentiment about Rice and to this point it simply isn't true. He's just as much a part of the problem currently as the rest of them.

Rainbarrel 11-21-2023 07:43 AM

Watson losing Mahomes faith, may force the issue of other options. They knew enough to block Mahomes outlet wearing #1. The Eagles had some hefty motivation

Rainbarrel 11-21-2023 07:46 AM

Do not throw the ball to Watson in the bitter cold/rain. Otherwise he's not a disaster

chiefzilla1501 11-21-2023 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17236588)
Uhh, why do people keep pointing to Rice as being anything other than a JAG with the rest? He's maintaining the same substandard production despite having how workload nearly doubled and the dude drops balls just like the rest of them. I keep seeing this sentiment about Rice and to this point it simply isn't true. He's just as much a part of the problem currently as the rest of them.

Sure but the other WRs are what they were.

Rashee has plenty of room for growth. unlike the other guys mistakes are expected. Let him make more mistakes. Our best shot at improving this wr room is to accelerate his growth and to do that we have to give him opportunities to make mistakes. Although he's running better depth of routes we still target him very conservatively

CadeMeister 11-21-2023 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17236529)
NOW.

Not last March. No 'what I would've done is...'.

What would you do NOW?

I would stop with the rotation at WR.

I'm playing Rice and Toney every play unless they need a breather. They are the two most talented.

I'm putting Hardman in MVS' spot. He's the fastest, and MVS never played big anyway. run ****ing go routes until you drop, Mecole. If they don't pull a safety over, we'll chuck it to you.

When Hardman needs a breath, send Watson out there.


Probably run a lot of 21.

Keep feeding Pacheco.

Simplify as much as you can.

Let me simplify for you............FIRE THE _ucking receiver coach TODAY !

mr. tegu 11-21-2023 07:51 AM

Woof. Alright, so what would you do?
 
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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17236579)
We say this shit every year though.

Last year it was all the close losses in December to shit teams. Two years ago it was that 6 week stretch and then a few other games, three years ago they weren't beating the Falcons and other teams by enough points, 4 years ago they were 6-4, 5 years ago the defense sucked balls, 6 years ago.... oh wait, that was Alex.


This isn’t scheme or bad luck though with the WR. It’s a pattern. But most of all it’s apparently not fixable because if it was I think it would have shown signs of improvement by now.

Basically every WR is over exposed right now. We are asking our fourth outfielder who normally plays once or twice a week to give the starters a break to instead bat third in the lineup and play every day.

KC_Lee 11-21-2023 07:51 AM

Call Todd Haley, have him run the Port-A-Potty drills with the receiving corps every day for the next 3 weeks.

CadeMeister 11-21-2023 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17236587)
If they can serve the basic function that high school wide receivers do this team will win another superbowl.

They've been in position to make the play, they just didn't catch a football. Something they do hundreds of times a day.

I'm not going to lose the faith. It's been historically ugly up to this point, but I'm not giving up on them.


Why does the receiver coach continue to have a job ? FIRE the _ucking receiver coach today. My bet he is not anywhere near qualified to coach NFL players.

Can ANYONE on this site name the receiver coach of the Chiefs "without Google"?

jerryaldini 11-21-2023 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17236588)
Uhh, why do people keep pointing to Rice as being anything other than a JAG with the rest? He's maintaining the same substandard production despite having how workload nearly doubled and the dude drops balls just like the rest of them. I keep seeing this sentiment about Rice and to this point it simply isn't true. He's just as much a part of the problem currently as the rest of them.

Yeah, he's getting the second most snaps. He's fine for a rookie where he was taken, but he's not the solution. Another drop last night. Toney is a weak body part time gadget guy. We just have to deal with the fact Watson is our number 1, which seems crazy but true


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