I'm looking forward to this in July:

https://i.imgur.com/RFAufdo.jpg?1

:facepalm:

KBS may be the most overrated stout there is.

CBS on the other hand is good beer.

BCBS is a fantastic beer.

Why July? Is it not out all year cuz I’m almost positive I saw it on the shelf at hyvee the other day?


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I think it's fantastic, to each their own. BCBS is good but not even in my top 5 stouts. Sump is also better in my opinion.

BCBS used to be head and shoulders better than anything else out there, and now it's not.... and I personally don't think BCBS is any worse (or better) than 5+ years ago (the big difference is that it doesn't seem nearly as boozy if you drink it right away), but now there's Stone Mikhail, Southern Tier Monstrosus, Good Times Monster's Park, and the list goes on.

I mean, I still bought a combined case of original and variants, but only because I didn't have to stand in line for it or drive around to several beer stores. IMO, it's no longer worth the hassle I went through to get it when I lived in KC, but only because there's so many other excellent stouts out there these days.

As far as Founders, I agree that KBS is overrated... I like CBS. Lizard of Koz is my 2nd favorite Founders beer after CBS, even though it's one of the few cases where I disagree with a lower rating on beeradvocate.

Double Two Hearted is listed as a July release. I don't think it's been brewed since 2015. Regular Two Hearted is year round.

https://www.bellsbeer.com/beer/speci...le-two-hearted

Ah now I see the difference. My bad. Sounds delicious tho.

More than anything, regular BCBS is losing traction to the flavored, diabeetus stout trend.

Mmmmmmmm, pastry stouts.....

I wonder how much of that is InBev vs Goose just being a really big craft brewer, even before the acquisition. Probably some of both, but it would be interesting to know how autonomous they truly are.

In my opinion BCBS is the most overrated stout there is. Granted, this year was the first time Ive tried it but...meh.

Obviously a lot changed after the acquisition. InBev's QA people wrote up over 100 violations after touring the Goose brewery. Several people quit over the new drug testing policy alone. Autonomy was part of the negotiations and I think InBev tries their best to accommodate, or at least give that appearance, but ultimately they're a well oiled machine of processes and margins. That said, there is still some autonomy. They release new beers available only on tap and to-go at the Chicago brewery all the time, but honestly, they're not that exciting anymore and have a big beer feel. All the creativity seems to go into their marketing and not the beer making, and that's an InBev thing, imo.

2 Hearted is my favorite $2 a pint ale ever. So now is $4? Bummer dude, why are you looking forward to it?

Pastry stouts for me, bro!