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WhawhaWhat 07-31-2024 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 17610122)
Thinking Harvey might have been a panic move..Traded too much IMO

Based on what?

poolboy 07-31-2024 05:56 PM

that third basemen dont grow on trees for the Royals and Harveys early returns
Hope Im wrong

GabyKeepsMeWarm 07-31-2024 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RollChiefsRoll (Post 17606989)
Jesus, the schedule in August is gonna be BRUTAL.

They do get the Angels again in a few weeks, so that's something, right?

Yeah, this month, and really the rest of the way is definitely gonna be a test. Probably not a lot of 5+ game winning streaks to be had going forward.

Think I read we have the 2nd or 3rd most difficult schedule in the AL going forward, so I'd be surprised if we make any gains. Though we will have several opportunities with Minnesota and Cleveland, though it could be a wash for everyone based on all the other teams we all have to play.

53 games left. What's the magic number? We've been a .500 team against everyone outside of the White Sox. Say we take 3 of 4 this weekend against Detroit, and play .500 the rest of the way. That would put us at 87 or 88 wins. Is that enough?

dlphg9 07-31-2024 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 17610198)
that third basemen dont grow on trees for the Royals and Harveys early returns
Hope Im wrong

Wallace will never be more than a JAG. He is a weak hitting 3rd baseman. 18 HRs in 198 minor league games. He's not ever going to be good.

Why Not? 07-31-2024 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm (Post 17610396)
They do get the Angels again in a few weeks, so that's something, right?

Yeah, this month, and really the rest of the way is definitely gonna be a test. Probably not a lot of 5+ game winning streaks to be had going forward.

Think I read we have the 2nd or 3rd most difficult schedule in the AL going forward, so I'd be surprised if we make any gains. Though we will have several opportunities with Minnesota and Cleveland, though it could be a wash for everyone based on all the other teams we all have to play.

53 games left. What's the magic number? We've been a .500 team against everyone outside of the White Sox. Say we take 3 of 4 this weekend against Detroit, and play .500 the rest of the way. That would put us at 87 or 88 wins. Is that enough?

At one point in a few weeks we play 20 straight against teams that would be in the playoffs if the season ended today. If we go 10-10 over that stretch (big if) we are making the tournament.

siberian khatru 08-01-2024 06:11 AM

BWJ's July:

.489/.520/.833/ 1.353

teedubya 08-01-2024 09:06 AM

Thought of something...

The Royals are 12-2 against the White Sox, right?

That means they are 48-47 vs everyone else. That's not actually saying much...

IMO, we are the 2013 Royals.

ChiefsCountry 08-01-2024 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 17610734)
Thought of something...

The Royals are 12-2 against the White Sox, right?

That means they are 48-47 vs everyone else. That's not actually saying much...

IMO, we are the 2013 Royals.

The numbers say the Royals should have 64 wins right now. So you are a dumbass

TambaBerry 08-01-2024 09:42 AM

https://kckingdom.com/posts/bobby-wi...d-01j4241n1dr7

This article popped up on my phone.

TomBarndtsTwin 08-01-2024 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 17610734)
Thought of something...

The Royals are 12-2 against the White Sox, right?

That means they are 48-47 vs everyone else. That's not actually saying much...

IMO, we are the 2013 Royals.

We were 56-106 last year.

So, yes, being .500 (if you wanna discount the White Sux wins) is still saying something.

The 2013 Royals finished 83-79 and were in the Wild Card race up until the final week of the season. I'd be good with that for this year.

Take the next step next year . . . . .

Bowser 08-01-2024 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17610534)
BWJ's July:

.489/.520/.833/ 1.353

Most hits in a month and highest average since Lou Gehrig did it in 1930??

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb...at/ar-BB1r1CVl

https://media.giphy.com/media/QmKGxJ...n3EJ/giphy.gif

BWillie 08-01-2024 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 17610734)
Thought of something...

The Royals are 12-2 against the White Sox, right?

That means they are 48-47 vs everyone else. That's not actually saying much...

IMO, we are the 2013 Royals.

Even going. 500 and that turn around vs last year is huge. I predicted us to be a couple games under .500 but I didnt consider that the White Sox would literally be the worst team of all time.

WilliamTheIrish 08-01-2024 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17610534)
BWJ's July:

.489/.520/.833/ 1.353

I mean…that’s a star.

WilliamTheIrish 08-01-2024 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 17610734)
Thought of something...

The Royals are 12-2 against the White Sox, right?

That means they are 48-47 vs everyone else. That's not actually saying much...

IMO, we are the 2013 Royals.

You play the teams on the schedule. You can rationalize it any way. But it’s still 60 wins and a chance for post season play. This team has a true star and some complimentary pieces. It has some warts, but overall this is a pretty solid team.

I’m happy listening every night on the radio.

RockChalk 08-01-2024 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 17610985)
You play the teams on the schedule. You can rationalize it any way. But it’s still 60 wins and a chance for post season play. This team has a true star and some complimentary pieces. It has some warts, but overall this is a pretty solid team.

I’m happy listening every night on the radio.

I'm with you.

Being a Chiefs fan has really spoiled some people. It's almost as if they'd rather the Royals suck and be doormats just so they have something to bitch and moan about. Instead, we have a team that has a chance to make the playoffs, something we've been without for close to a decade. Every Royals fan should be enjoying this season, instead half of them are yearning to be losers so they can complain.

ChiefsCountry 08-01-2024 11:09 AM

Royals basically just need to go .500 the rest of the year and they will make the playoffs.

ChiefsCountry 08-01-2024 11:12 AM

And the sixth seed would actually be a good spot. You get the AL West champ then Cleveland. Instead of New York and Baltimore.

DanT 08-01-2024 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 17610985)
You play the teams on the schedule. You can rationalize it any way. But it’s still 60 wins and a chance for post season play. This team has a true star and some complimentary pieces. It has some warts, but overall this is a pretty solid team.

I’m happy listening every night on the radio.


For me, the Royals became fun again to follow late last season. They have been very fun to follow this year. They have two potential Hall-of-Famers (Salvy and Bobby) at 2 of the 4 spots "up the middle" and enough starting pitching to make postseason interesting, if they make it. Their run differential has been good all year, and is solidly ahead of the Twins and the Red Sox, their main competition for a wild card.

WilliamTheIrish 08-01-2024 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 17611009)
I'm with you.

Being a Chiefs fan has really spoiled some people. It's almost as if they'd rather the Royals suck and be doormats just so they have something to bitch and moan about. Instead, we have a team that has a chance to make the playoffs, something we've been without for close to a decade. Every Royals fan should be enjoying this season, instead half of them are yearning to be losers so they can complain.

Truly, I don’t think Ari was trying to urinate on the Royals. He saves that for at night in his bed. (I’m kidding) He loves this team like all of us.

This statistic has been floated around now for a week and he probably thought it was unique to his limbic system.

PHOG 08-01-2024 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17611038)
And the sixth seed would actually be a good spot. You get the AL West champ then Cleveland. Instead of New York and Baltimore.

Now this is some good info. :thumb:

FringeNC 08-01-2024 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17610534)
BWJ's July:

.489/.520/.833/ 1.353

Insane month for BWJ. Remarkable to think that Bonds had an entire season with a OPS higher than that. Yeah, yeah, he was juiced but so was everyone else and they weren't doing that.

RockChalk 08-01-2024 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 17611058)
Truly, I don’t think Ari was trying to urinate on the Royals. He saves that for at night in his bed. (I’m kidding) He loves this team like all of us.

This statistic has been floated around now for a week and he probably thought it was unique to his limbic system.

Definitely not attacking any one person. I see it on this board and others, as well as in text threads with friends. Some people would just rather shit on things than enjoy them.

BWillie 08-01-2024 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 17611087)
Insane month for BWJ. Remarkable to think that Bonds had an entire season with a OPS higher than that. Yeah, yeah, he was juiced but so was everyone else and they weren't doing that.

Bonds is the best player of all time and it really isn't close.

DJJasonp 08-01-2024 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17611148)
Bonds is the best player of all time and it really isn't close.

piss on that guy.

I still say what was more important than the roids, was the implementation/allowance of the robocop arm/shoulder armor that allowed him to stay in on breaking balls.

You simply do not stay in on those pitches nearly as much without it.

dlphg9 08-01-2024 01:49 PM

Barry Bonds had a full season of 1.422 OPS, but the ****ing guy had 232 walks and 120 of those walks were intentional.

You wanna know something absolutely ****ing absurd? Salvador Perez has been in the league for 13 years and has played 1500 games. He's only had 228 walks. That's 4 less than Bonds had in 147 games at 39 years old. Holy shit, roids or no roids that is just almost incomprehensible.

dlphg9 08-01-2024 02:13 PM

What is going on with Bobby Witt Jr and him not stealing bases. He only stole 2 bases in all of July and only attempted it 4 times. He got on base 52 times and only 8 of those times were HRs or 3Bs that wouldn't have allowed him to try. Only 8 SBs since June 1st. Why is he not running more?

BWillie 08-01-2024 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17611373)
What is going on with Bobby Witt Jr and him not stealing bases. He only stole 2 bases in all of July and only attempted it 4 times. He got on base 52 times and only 8 of those times were HRs or 3Bs that wouldn't have allowed him to try. Only 8 SBs since June 1st. Why is he not running more?

Im not quite sure why his efficiency isnt better. He is the fastest player from home to first in the last decade and thats even right handed. My guess is thats his next evolution he will drastically improve at.

dlphg9 08-01-2024 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17611598)
Im not quite sure why his efficiency isnt better. He is the fastest player from home to first in the last decade and thats even right handed. My guess is thats his next evolution he will drastically improve at.

It makes me think the coaching staff is keeping him from stealing.

WilliamTheIrish 08-01-2024 06:58 PM

Big thoughts:

Royals are 5-2 against Detroit. If they were 7-0 they’d have a better record.

GabyKeepsMeWarm 08-01-2024 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 17611867)
Big thoughts:

Royals are 5-2 against Detroit. If they were 7-0 they’d have a better record.

That's really something. Tell me more, I like where this is going...

ChiTown 08-01-2024 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 17611867)
Big thoughts:

Royals are 5-2 against Detroit. If they were 7-0 they’d have a better record.

https://y.yarn.co/e44f4fa2-be91-4377...91a4b_text.gif

AndChiefs 08-01-2024 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 17611867)
Big thoughts:

Royals are 5-2 against Detroit. If they were 7-0 they’d have a better record.

What if they were 6-1?

tredadda 08-01-2024 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 17610813)
We were 56-106 last year.

So, yes, being .500 (if you wanna discount the White Sux wins) is still saying something.

The 2013 Royals finished 83-79 and were in the Wild Card race up until the final week of the season. I'd be good with that for this year.

Take the next step next year . . . . .

After 110 games they are 12 games over .500. Who would have thought that before the season started?

GabyKeepsMeWarm 08-01-2024 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17611916)
After 110 games they are 12 games over .500. Who would have thought that before the season started?

You guessed it:

Frank Stallone

WhawhaWhat 08-01-2024 08:15 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Is Bobby Witt Jr. the best player in baseball?<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WelcomeToTheCity?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WelcomeToTheCity</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MLBTonight?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MLBTonight</a> <a href="https://t.co/V8EFTK20Ho">pic.twitter.com/V8EFTK20Ho</a></p>&mdash; MLB Network (@MLBNetwork) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBNetwork/status/1819176790830506460?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

dlphg9 08-01-2024 09:39 PM

Looking a fWAR, BWJ is in first place by .2 WAR, but Cole Ragans has the 14th highest WAR and 4th highest among pitchers. He's only .2 from having the highest WAR among pitchers. Crazy

BWillie 08-01-2024 10:20 PM

Bobby Witt Jr has over a 1.00 OPS. Unreal!

Simplicity 08-01-2024 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 17608818)
I disagree, this season McArthur ranks 19th in saves, 25th in save percentage, 25th in WHIP, 29th in K per 9, 27th in blown saves, and 29th in ERA.

This is entirely random but I was the one who made your signature picture with “Our Time” and LoCain. So cool to see you still rocking it after all these years.

Ocotillo 08-01-2024 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17611148)
Bonds is the best player of all time and it really isn't close.

Bonds is certainly in the conversation for best player of all time.

But if it really isn't close like you claim, I would expect Bonds to make this throw.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/PilAosY41eA?si=58qJKlvsIK58sVc_" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe>

cmh6476 08-02-2024 06:24 AM

Barry Bonds couldn't play short so he's out of the running. It used to be Honus Wagner but by the time he's don't it'll be BWJ. You're welcome.

cmh6476 08-02-2024 09:42 AM

Just a heads up, tonight's game is on Apple TV+, not Bally Sports :|

PHOG 08-02-2024 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 17612476)
Just a heads up, tonight's game is on Apple TV+, not Bally Sports :|

This (thanks lewdog) is what I watch it on, so just a heads up if someone needs it. It works really well most times.


https://methstreams.com/mlb-streams/live5/

WhawhaWhat 08-02-2024 11:21 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Programming note: I’m off this rest of the series for a family wedding this weekend.<br><br>Steve Stewart &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/BHanni?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BHanni</a> have you covered for <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Royals</a> baseball on the radio! Appreciate the Voice of <a href="https://twitter.com/KUAthletics?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KUAthletics</a> filling in for the next three games!<br><br>See you back in KC on Monday.</p>&mdash; Jake Eisenberg (@JakeEisenberg_) <a href="https://twitter.com/JakeEisenberg_/status/1819366854785224770?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BWillie 08-02-2024 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17612662)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Programming note: I’m off this rest of the series for a family wedding this weekend.<br><br>Steve Stewart &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/BHanni?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BHanni</a> have you covered for <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Royals</a> baseball on the radio! Appreciate the Voice of <a href="https://twitter.com/KUAthletics?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KUAthletics</a> filling in for the next three games!<br><br>See you back in KC on Monday.</p>&mdash; Jake Eisenberg (@JakeEisenberg_) <a href="https://twitter.com/JakeEisenberg_/status/1819366854785224770?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Im sorry Royals fans. Brian Hanni is absolutely awful. Truly putrid.

Dartgod 08-02-2024 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 17612476)
Just a heads up, tonight's game is on Apple TV+, not Bally Sports :|

:cuss:

GeorgeZimZam 08-03-2024 12:44 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-theme="dark"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MLB run differential leaders:<br><br>1. New York Yankees +115<br>2. Kansas City <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Royals</a> +95<br>3. Philadelphia Phillies +94<br>4. Cleveland Guardians +92<br>5. Los Angeles Dodgers +85</p>&mdash; Nick Kappel (@NickKappel) <a href="https://twitter.com/NickKappel/status/1819725542658081106?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ocotillo 08-04-2024 03:41 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Most Consecutive Losses<br>Single Season Since 1900<br>1961 Phillies 23<br>1988 Orioles 21<br>1969 Expos 20<br>1943 Athletics 20<br>1916 Athletics 20<br>1906 Americans 20<br>2024 White Sox: 20</p>&mdash; Jesse Rogers (@JesseRogersESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/JesseRogersESPN/status/1820212294032200000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ocotillo 08-04-2024 03:42 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ESPNStatsInfo</a>: The White Sox are 27-87 this season, 60 games under .500 — on Aug. 4. <br><br>That is the earliest date into a season a team is 60 games under .500 for the first time since the Cleveland Spiders in 1899 (August 1).</p>&mdash; Jesse Rogers (@JesseRogersESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/JesseRogersESPN/status/1820212909357539450?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

tk13 08-04-2024 03:51 PM

That Cleveland Spiders team was the worst team in MLB history. The White Sox are on pace to go 38-124.

lewdog 08-04-2024 04:50 PM

**** the White Sox. They deserve to own that record.

WilliamTheIrish 08-04-2024 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 17615834)
**** the White Sox. They deserve to own that record.

Absolutely they do and I won’t apologize for the Royals beating the shit out of their team.

GabyKeepsMeWarm 08-04-2024 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17615762)
That Cleveland Spiders team was the worst team in MLB history. The White Sox are on pace to go 38-124.

It’s beyond pathetic, but like lewdog and WilliamtheIrish, they’ve gotta own it. How ****ed in the head is Crochet? Making demands? He’d rather continue pitching for the worst team in the league than perhaps not have his own ideal role with a contender? What a queer. He’ll be moved in the offseason demands be damned. What a jackass. I do feel bad for Pedro Grifol, but it was his decision to jump ship to that south side shitshow. There isn’t a manager dead or alive that could do much better with that roster.

tredadda 08-04-2024 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm (Post 17615860)
It’s beyond pathetic, but like lewdog and WilliamtheIrish, they’ve gotta own it. How ****ed in the head is Crochet? Making demands? He’d rather continue pitching for the worst team in the league than perhaps not have his own ideal role with a contender? What a queer. He’ll be moved in the offseason demands be damned. What a jackass. I do feel bad for Pedro Grifol, but it was his decision to jump ship to that south side shitshow. There isn’t a manager dead or alive that could do much better with that roster.

Didn’t they have one of the best farms in baseball a couple of years ago? What happened since then?

dlphg9 08-04-2024 06:35 PM

Lol so glad that KC said no thanks to Pedro Grifol. Chris Getz also looks like a ****ing clown running that organization.

smithandrew051 08-04-2024 06:38 PM

No matter what happens from here, I have to hand it to the Royals. They keep me interested to the start of Chiefs preseason.

I would like to thank them for that. Normally a dead period in sports for me when March Madness is over. The Royals filled that for the first time since what, 2016?

Pablo 08-04-2024 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17615943)
No matter what happens from here, I have to hand it to the Royals. They keep me interested to the start of Chiefs preseason.

I would like to thank them for that. Normally a dead period in sports for me when March Madness is over. The Royals filled that for the first time since what, 2016?

Yeah it’s been very very nice to be able to turn on the TV every night and actually give a shit about the game. Didn’t have optimism at all to start the year we’d get this.

I’d certainly love a dominant team but just have a solid good team to follow is such a big deal for these hot don’t want to go outside just want to watch TV months

cmh6476 08-04-2024 07:56 PM

I see he isn't the starter Tuesday, but can anyone tell if Noah Cameron is the likely starter for Wednesday?

ChiefsCountry 08-04-2024 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 17616022)
I see he isn't the starter Tuesday, but can anyone tell if Noah Cameron is the likely starter for Wednesday?

Should be Cole Ragens on Wednesday

tk13 08-04-2024 09:36 PM

They have it set up perfectly so Singer/Lugo/Ragans face Boston this week then Minnesota next week. Have to think they stick to that since they're both huge series.

cmh6476 08-04-2024 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17616053)
Should be Cole Ragens on Wednesday

Sorry I meant up in Omaha

Why Not? 08-04-2024 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 17616145)
Sorry I meant up in Omaha

Good. I was like “shit, did something happen to Ragans?”

GabyKeepsMeWarm 08-05-2024 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17615868)
Didn’t they have one of the best farms in baseball a couple of years ago? What happened since then?

Depends on what site you go to, but they still have a fertile group down on the farm. The major league team went into tank mode before the season began, while also getting hit hard by injuries and underperformance. They’ll be back to being a pain in the ass within a couple years.

GabyKeepsMeWarm 08-05-2024 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17616121)
They have it set up perfectly so Singer/Lugo/Ragans face Boston this week then Minnesota next week. Have to think they stick to that since they're both huge series.

Definitely have the pitching matchups that we want. Just gotta take care of business. Take 2 from the BoSox and rail those queers from Saint Lou for a nice 4-1 homestand before hopefully figuring out how to beat those ****ers from Minnesota. For whatever reason, they’ve had our number all year.

tredadda 08-05-2024 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm (Post 17616201)
Depends on what site you go to, but they still have a fertile group down on the farm. The major league team went into tank mode before the season began, while also getting hit hard by injuries and underperformance. They’ll be back to being a pain in the ass within a couple years.

Thank you.

DJ's left nut 08-05-2024 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm (Post 17615860)
It’s beyond pathetic, but like lewdog and WilliamtheIrish, they’ve gotta own it. How ****ed in the head is Crochet? Making demands? He’d rather continue pitching for the worst team in the league than perhaps not have his own ideal role with a contender? What a queer. He’ll be moved in the offseason demands be damned. What a jackass. I do feel bad for Pedro Grifol, but it was his decision to jump ship to that south side shitshow. There isn’t a manager dead or alive that could do much better with that roster.

Eh - hard not to put some of that on a manager.

Oh sure, they were always going to lose 100. 105 may have been a foregone conclusion.

But when you have 2 guys in Crochet and Fedde who were pitching their asses off for you, that alone should keep you from being historically bad.

I mean if every player you have is fairly young and still underperforming their norms, that's a manager and organization issue as well. It ain't like Robert was hurt - he was just shitty. Lopez should've had good defensive value at least - hasn't. Benintendi has a long track record of being average to slightly above - he's been one of the worst players in baseball this year at an age that he just shouldn't be. Vaughn regresed for the 2nd straight year.

The White Sox should've been bad. But they shouldn't be THIS bad. They have a more talented roster than this. I mean somthing like 60-102 should've been a reasonable floor for them. And that's BEFORE they got a breakout from Crochet and career season from Fedde.

ChiefsCountry 08-05-2024 10:45 AM

Regarding the White Sox, Royals and Twins are both done both them for the year. Indians have 3 games left. So at least they aren't involved down the stretch.

Mecca 08-05-2024 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17615868)
Didn’t they have one of the best farms in baseball a couple of years ago? What happened since then?

They were failed by a mixture of injuries, poor player development, bad decisions and some bad luck.

Since then they have an entirely new front office and a top 5 system again.

But lets be really honest here, Tim Anderson went from an exciting player to a giant pile of shit in the snap of a finger. Eloy Jimenez can't stop getting hurt, Dylan Cease really didn't take off till he got to San Diego this year.

They also screwed the pooch by paying Yasmani Grandal and it just didn't work on top of choosing not to pay Rodon.

Of all of their top prospects Luis Robert is about the only one that has been an actual hit.

BWillie 08-05-2024 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17616559)
Eh - hard not to put some of that on a manager.

Oh sure, they were always going to lose 100. 105 may have been a foregone conclusion.

But when you have 2 guys in Crochet and Fedde who were pitching their asses off for you, that alone should keep you from being historically bad.

I mean if every player you have is fairly young and still underperforming their norms, that's a manager and organization issue as well. It ain't like Robert was hurt - he was just shitty. Lopez should've had good defensive value at least - hasn't. Benintendi has a long track record of being average to slightly above - he's been one of the worst players in baseball this year at an age that he just shouldn't be. Vaughn regresed for the 2nd straight year.

The White Sox should've been bad. But they shouldn't be THIS bad. They have a more talented roster than this. I mean somthing like 60-102 should've been a reasonable floor for them. And that's BEFORE they got a breakout from Crochet and career season from Fedde.

Also Moncada doesn't even want to play for them the rest of the way I don't think

tk13 08-05-2024 11:21 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> first round draft pick Jac Caglianone is headed to High-A Quad Cities this week and will make his pro debut Tuesday for the River Bandits. After a week or so in Arizona, he’s ready for affiliate ball.</p>&mdash; Anne Rogers (@anne__rogers) <a href="https://twitter.com/anne__rogers/status/1820506613775466884?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BWillie 08-05-2024 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17616732)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> first round draft pick Jac Caglianone is headed to High-A Quad Cities this week and will make his pro debut Tuesday for the River Bandits. After a week or so in Arizona, he’s ready for affiliate ball.</p>&mdash; Anne Rogers (@anne__rogers) <a href="https://twitter.com/anne__rogers/status/1820506613775466884?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yes no rookie ball! Who wants to go on a road trip

cmh6476 08-05-2024 02:07 PM

this series is too important for me to try and get us a good gdt going, but our lineup is out:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We&#39;re opening the homestand with Brady Singer headed to the mound to take on the Red Sox. <a href="https://t.co/1WjqQxYyTH">pic.twitter.com/1WjqQxYyTH</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1820551277824090499?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

cmh6476 08-05-2024 02:11 PM

looking forward to some of this, this week

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">RED SOX EMBARRASSINGLY DROP GAME TWO TO THE TIGERS!<br><br>6 - 5<br><br>Your Reaction? �� <a href="https://t.co/A96MsN4H5B">pic.twitter.com/A96MsN4H5B</a></p>&mdash; Bastards of Boston Baseball (@Bastards_Boston) <a href="https://twitter.com/Bastards_Boston/status/1390148682247544832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

PHOG 08-05-2024 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 17617157)
this series is too important for me to try and get us a good gdt going, but our lineup is out:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We&#39;re opening the homestand with Brady Singer headed to the mound to take on the Red Sox. <a href="https://t.co/1WjqQxYyTH">pic.twitter.com/1WjqQxYyTH</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1820551277824090499?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah, we're getting into the meat of the schedule now. Only 59 games to go.

dlphg9 08-05-2024 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17616762)
Yes no rookie ball! Who wants to go on a road trip

This is really ****ing exciting.

SithCeNtZ 08-05-2024 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 17617408)
Yeah, we're getting into the meat of the schedule now. Only 59 games to go.

They are 63-50, so 113 down 49 to go which makes this series matter even more. About as close to a playoff series in early August as you can get really.

PHOG 08-05-2024 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SithCeNtZ (Post 17617530)
They are 63-50, so 113 down 49 to go which makes this series matter even more. About as close to a playoff series in early August as you can get really.

Damn, I never was too good in math. 49, not 59.

tredadda 08-05-2024 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17616695)
They were failed by a mixture of injuries, poor player development, bad decisions and some bad luck.

Since then they have an entirely new front office and a top 5 system again.

But lets be really honest here, Tim Anderson went from an exciting player to a giant pile of shit in the snap of a finger. Eloy Jimenez can't stop getting hurt, Dylan Cease really didn't take off till he got to San Diego this year.

They also screwed the pooch by paying Yasmani Grandal and it just didn't work on top of choosing not to pay Rodon.

Of all of their top prospects Luis Robert is about the only one that has been an actual hit.

Makes a lot of sense. Appreciate that.

Ocotillo 08-05-2024 10:09 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There was no worse team of my childhood.<br><br>The 1988 Orioles now have company. The 2024 White Sox join them as the only AL teams to lose 21 in a row. <a href="https://t.co/nMveYgxzlz">pic.twitter.com/nMveYgxzlz</a></p>&mdash; Chris Klemmer (@ChrisKlemmer) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisKlemmer/status/1820671019662655679?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 6, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ocotillo 08-05-2024 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17615762)
That Cleveland Spiders team was the worst team in MLB history. The White Sox are on pace to go 38-124.

And that Cleveland Spiders team had an owner who also owned St. Louis in the National League. He purposedly depleted the Spiders' roster to stock St. Louis. The major leagues have had a rule since then that an owner can't own two teams.

Knowing those circumstances, the White Sox really could be the worst team ever assembled.

Ocotillo 08-05-2024 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17616695)
They were failed by a mixture of injuries, poor player development, bad decisions and some bad luck.

Since then they have an entirely new front office and a top 5 system again.

But lets be really honest here, Tim Anderson went from an exciting player to a giant pile of shit in the snap of a finger. Eloy Jimenez can't stop getting hurt, Dylan Cease really didn't take off till he got to San Diego this year.

They also screwed the pooch by paying Yasmani Grandal and it just didn't work on top of choosing not to pay Rodon.

Of all of their top prospects Luis Robert is about the only one that has been an actual hit.

Their farm system, that was built for the 2020-21 playoff teams, was largely built off trades, not development either. They got Lucas Giolito, Reynaldo Lopez and Dane Danning from Washington for Adam Eaton. Giolito competed for a Cy Young in 2019.

They got Eloy Jimenez and Dylan Cease from the Cubs in a trade for Jose Quinanta and landed Michael Kopech and Yoan Moncada from the Red Sox in a deal for Chris Sale.

Their downfall was lack of depth around their top pieces, which sunk their teams in 2022 and 2023. I never believed they could develop players even during the height of the 2020-21 cycle. The way they handled Andrew Vaughn was criminal, starting him in the majors when he had minimal minor league experience. His lack of development is a reason where they are right now.

I don't agree they have a top five system right now. They have some promising arms, but their position player group is questionnable. Colson Montgomery, who is their best bet at a franchise position player, has an 83 wRC+ in Triple-A right now.


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