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-King- 04-04-2017 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12809415)
The Packers had massive injuries in their secondary and couldn't stop anyone. They were 21st in points allowed and 22nd in yards allowed. They also had no RB all year...they literally had to move a WR to play RB.

Who here is saying things need to be perfect? Did you not read the post?

Despite an 8-8 team with huge holes, Rodgers put that team on his back and carried them to an NFCCG.
The Packers in no way deserves to go that far, but their QB took control.

The goal is to get one of those QB's, which Alex will never be that's QB, ever.

I don't expect Alex to be better or as good as Rodgers. I'm 100% in for replacing him in 2018 which is why I don't want Mahomes as I see him as a multi year project at best which will force us to keep Alex for 2+ more years. I don't want that.

But back to Rodgers, he's had a above average defense the majority of his time in GB and elite weapons on offense basically his whole career there. And yet 1 Superbowl in 2009. The CP notion of a QB that doesn't need a lot of help doesn't exist.
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RealSNR 04-04-2017 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12809395)
How are the Packers awful? Their defense is below average but offense is full of weapons. And I thought elite QBs were able to get past deficiencies in the team?



The same people who blame Smith because he needs everything perfect around him are the same people who blame the Packers because they aren't perfect around Rodgers. It's ironic huh?
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Aaron Rodgers wins his playoff games by competing and challenging teams. Never is he thinking, "Just try to not mess up... maybe they'll make a mistake and hopefully I'll spot it!"

That's EXACTLY how Alex plays football. And it's why he's completely different from guys like Wilson and Eli.

He's way more Trent Dilfer than he is Russel Wilson. You would surely agree, right?

-King- 04-04-2017 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12809431)
Aaron Rodgers wins his playoff games by competing and challenging teams. Never is he thinking, "Just try to not mess up... maybe they'll make a mistake and hopefully I'll spot it!"

That's EXACTLY how Alex plays football. And it's why he's completely different from guys like Wilson and Eli.

He's way more Trent Dilfer than he is Russel Wilson. You would surely agree, right?

In the playoffs he and Russell Wilson are comparable. The only difference is that when Wilson has a shitty game, his defense has been able to pick him up. The chiefs defense hadn't.

Imagine if Alex Smith threw 4 interceptions in a playoff game. That's a sure loss right? Well it wasn't for Wilson.
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-King- 04-04-2017 02:51 PM

Wilson in his Superbowl run had a game where he completed 9/18 passes for 103 yards and they still won. Let's stop acting like he's the one carrying the Seahawks to these playoff wins.
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RealSNR 04-04-2017 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12809438)
In the playoffs he and Russell Wilson are comparable. The only difference is that when Wilson has a shitty game, his defense has been able to pick him up. The chiefs defense hadn't.

Imagine if Alex Smith threw 4 interceptions in a playoff game. That's a sure loss right? Well it wasn't for Wilson.
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Alex is allowed to kick around 100 yard games when his defense does what the Seahawks did to Manning. If they're not? Let's say they're playing the adequate Pittsburgh Steelers and don't allow a single friggin TD on the entire day.

Alex has to overcome that. Russell Wilson has been able to find ways in his young career to meet those demands even with a 4 INT game.

Alex has not.

You can't possibly be comparing the two QBs. Do we need you to show you all those Pittsburgh gifs again?

-King- 04-04-2017 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12809458)
Alex is allowed to kick around 100 yard games when his defense does what the Seahawks did to Manning. If they're not? Let's say they're playing the adequate Pittsburgh Steelers and don't allow a single friggin TD on the entire day.

Alex has to overcome that. Russell Wilson has been able to find ways in his young career to meet those demands even with a 4 INT game.

Alex has not.

You can't possibly be comparing the two QBs. Do we need you to show you all those Pittsburgh gifs again?

Russell wins the Pittsburgh game with the defense and running game he's had in his playoff career.

His 4 INT game came against the great Aaron Rodgers and THEY STILL WON.

The year they won the Superbowl he averaged 174 yards, 1 TD and 0 interceptions. You don't think Alex Smith wins the Superbowl too in that situation?

Him and Alex are very similar in the playoffs other than Alex averages more yards and touchdowns and less interceptions per game...
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Bewbies 04-04-2017 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12809395)
How are the Packers awful? Their defense is below average but offense is full of weapons. And I thought elite QBs were able to get past deficiencies in the team?

The same people who blame Smith because he needs everything perfect around him are the same people who blame the Packers because they aren't perfect around Rodgers. It's ironic huh?
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Do you watch the games on Sunday, or do you just read about them during the week?

I mean damn.

-King- 04-04-2017 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 12809468)
Do you watch the games on Sunday, or do you just read about them during the week?

I mean damn.

Do you? What did I say that's wrong?
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RunKC 04-04-2017 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12809430)
I don't expect Alex to be better or as good as Rodgers. I'm 100% in for replacing him in 2018 which is why I don't want Mahomes as I see him as a multi year project at best which will force us to keep Alex for 2+ more years. I don't want that.

But back to Rodgers, he's had a above average defense the majority of his time in GB and elite weapons on offense basically his whole career there. And yet 1 Superbowl in 2009. The CP notion of a QB that doesn't need a lot of help doesn't exist.
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You can't blame Rodgers for that. He had that team basically in the SB in 2014 and his team pissed the game away. Double digit lead at the end and they piss it away.

That's not on the QB

milkman 04-04-2017 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12809467)
Russell wins the Pittsburgh game with the defense and running game he's had in his playoff career.

His 4 INT game came against the great Aaron Rodgers and THEY STILL WON.

The year they won the Superbowl he averaged 174 yards, 1 TD and 0 interceptions. You don't think Alex Smith wins the Superbowl too in that situation?

Him and Alex are very similar in the playoffs other than Alex averages more yards and touchdowns and less interceptions per game...
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The difference is that Wilson makes plays in big moments.
Alex Smith doesn't.

-King- 04-04-2017 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12809543)
The difference is that Wilson makes plays in big moments.
Alex Smith doesn't.

What plays?

Are we really giving him credit for throwing a touchdown in overtime after throwing 4 interceptions in regulation? Yayyy, you cleaned up the milk you spilled. Great job!
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RunKC 04-04-2017 05:08 PM

Amazing how Alex apologists play this stupid game. Wilson and Rodgers are 100X the QB Alex ever has, is or ever could dream of being.

Period

-King- 04-04-2017 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12809590)
Amazing how Alex apologists play this stupid game. Wilson and Rodgers are 100X the QB Alex ever has, is or ever could dream of being.

Period

How am I am apologist? I want to replace him as fast as possible.

I'm just not willing to be a hypocrite and criticise Alex for his 180 yard 2 TD playoff game while praising another QB for throwing 174 yards a game with 1 TD including a 103 yard 50% completion performance.
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Sandy Vagina 04-04-2017 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12809603)
How am I am apologist? I want to replace him as fast as possible.

I'm just not willing to be a hypocrite and criticise Alex for his 180 yard 2 TD playoff game while praising another QB for throwing 174 yards a game with 1 TD including a 103 yard 50% completion performance.
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Excuses are only legit and acceptable for OTHER team's quarterbacks.

Did you not know this by now? :shake:

RunKC 04-04-2017 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12809603)
How am I am apologist? I want to replace him as fast as possible.

I'm just not willing to be a hypocrite and criticise Alex for his 180 yard 2 TD playoff game while praising another QB for throwing 174 yards a game with 1 TD including a 103 yard 50% completion performance.
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You're literally saying Russell Wilson'a defense and running game won playoff games for him while ignoring Alex Smith's defense getting a turnover and keeping one of the hottest offenses out of the end zone and holding them to 18 points while his RB had 4.4 YPC and scores a TD.

Alex also has Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce who are all pro players, not to mention Jeremy Maclin.

So please tell us why Alex couldn't succeed with a great team like Wilson had?


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