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The Franchise 04-30-2021 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15653587)
sure it does.

Good drafters do it all the time. If the guy they want will last longer they move down. If the guy they want won't last to their pick they move up. Really good drafters pick up more when they move down than they have to pay when they move up so all the moving around doesn't cost them too much.

Ozzie Newsome was a good one

You have to have teams that want to move down or teams that want to move up. They don’t materialize out of thin air.

JakeF 04-30-2021 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15653608)
If they are trading up it’s not gonna be for a 4th rd DE. Whoever the player is would be at the top of their board.

Stop reading JakeF’s reeruned posts LMAO

**** you. You talk shit all the time but I guarantee I know more about football than you ever will. Just because you don't want to hear the truth doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about.

chiefforlife 04-30-2021 01:00 PM

Interesting that Minnesota tried to trade up to get Darrisaw but ended up getting him at 23 anyways.
Sometimes you are wrong about having to trade up. Or lucky, I guess.

staylor26 04-30-2021 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15653615)
**** you. You talk shit all the time but I guarantee I know more about football than you ever will. Just because you don't want to hear the truth doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about.

LMAO

JakeF 04-30-2021 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15653613)
You have to have teams that want to move down or teams that want to move up. They don’t materialize out of thin air.

of course

Teams can't make every trade they want. Some are just better at finding a good trade partner than others. Some teams know the stupid teams and trade with them.

There are going to be several trades at the top of round 2 tonight, almost always is.

staylor26 04-30-2021 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 15653616)
Interesting that Minnesota tried to trade up to get Darrisaw but ended up getting him at 23 anyways.
Sometimes you are wrong about having to trade up. Or lucky, I guess.

This makes no sense. Why wouldn’t they have just taken him at 14 when he was available if they wanted to trade up for him?

chiefforlife 04-30-2021 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15653620)
This makes no sense. Why wouldn’t they have just taken him at 14 when he was available if they wanted to trade up for him?

Well they dropped down to 23 picked up a ton of picks and still got him, thats why.


Vikings tried to move back up for Christian Darrisaw before landing him at No. 23
Posted by Josh Alper on April 30, 2021, 12:30 PM EDT
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The Vikings came into Thursday night’s first round with a lot of draft capital and they added more when they went on the clock for the 14th overall pick.

A trade with the Jets netted them the 23rd pick and two third-rounders while costing them a fourth-round selection. The Vikings then sat back and waited to see if their preferred player would get to them.

General Manager Rick Spielman said “we were a little tight in the draft room” during that wait because they worried someone else might tackle tackle Christian Darrisaw. As the tightness grew, Spielman said he tried to make a move that would ensure Darrisaw landed in Minnesota.

“Once we got down to about four or five picks, when we went down to 23, we did try to go back up because we wanted to try to make sure that we got Christian,” Spielman said, via the team’s website. “We were unable to. Fortunately, we did not have to. We were able to keep our extra picks that we gained and still got the player that we coveted. So, it worked out very well for us.”

The Vikings now have four third-round picks and three fourth-round picks, so trading up into the second round could be part of the plan on Friday night.

staylor26 04-30-2021 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 15653627)
Well they dropped down to 23 picked up a ton of picks and still got him, thats why.


Vikings tried to move back up for Christian Darrisaw before landing him at No. 23
Posted by Josh Alper on April 30, 2021, 12:30 PM EDT
2021 NFL Draft
Getty Images

The Vikings came into Thursday night’s first round with a lot of draft capital and they added more when they went on the clock for the 14th overall pick.

A trade with the Jets netted them the 23rd pick and two third-rounders while costing them a fourth-round selection. The Vikings then sat back and waited to see if their preferred player would get to them.

General Manager Rick Spielman said “we were a little tight in the draft room” during that wait because they worried someone else might tackle tackle Christian Darrisaw. As the tightness grew, Spielman said he tried to make a move that would ensure Darrisaw landed in Minnesota.

“Once we got down to about four or five picks, when we went down to 23, we did try to go back up because we wanted to try to make sure that we got Christian,” Spielman said, via the team’s website. “We were unable to. Fortunately, we did not have to. We were able to keep our extra picks that we gained and still got the player that we coveted. So, it worked out very well for us.”

The Vikings now have four third-round picks and three fourth-round picks, so trading up into the second round could be part of the plan on Friday night.

Ohh so they tried to trade up from 23. I thought that meant they were trying to trade up from 14 at one point and proceeded to trade down as opposed to taking him there.

RunKC 04-30-2021 01:10 PM

Just heard Milton Williams as a strong sleeper possibility for us.

Dude killed it at his pro day but not sure I want him this early

TEX 04-30-2021 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15653482)
Veach loves those SEC guys. Gotta wonder if Marshall slides that far to us ala D.K Metcalf.

Yep. Hope so, but I don't see how he will.

staylor26 04-30-2021 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15653641)
Just heard Milton Williams as a strong sleeper possibility for us.

Dude killed it at his pro day but not sure I want him this early

I’d be pretty shocked unless they plan on him playing DE too, but his measurables are Donald/Atkins level great.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-30-2021 01:12 PM

QB and DT probably only two positions we don’t draft in the second. We are deep there.

chiefforlife 04-30-2021 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15653639)
Ohh so they tried to trade up from 23. I thought that meant they were trying to trade up from 14 at one point and proceeded to trade down as opposed to taking him there.

Kind of crazy, went down to 23 started getting scared, tried going back up then got him anyway. Risky but rewarding. You never know...

The Franchise 04-30-2021 01:13 PM

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Prison Bitch 04-30-2021 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15653615)
**** you. You talk shit all the time but I guarantee I know more about football than you ever will. Just because you don't want to hear the truth doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about.

I probably know the least about football on this forum.


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