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thabear04 04-03-2017 07:38 PM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ass-at-pro-day

TigeRRUppeRRcut 04-04-2017 12:28 AM

It has come to my attention that Mahomes' hand size is closer to Kaepernicks than it does to Russell Wilson's.

Red Flag.

-King- 04-04-2017 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12808298)
I heard a great analogy for these QBs this morning.

The thinking was that with most of the QBs such as Trubisky or Watson, you were probably sure to have a B+ to C- level QB. With Mahomes, you're looking at probably an A or an F. It's the ultimate gamble. Go big or go home.

Most times, I wouldn't advocate such a pick in the first round. But if you are the Chiefs right now, with a nearly filled roster that could play today if they had to, why wouldn't you roll the dice? They know they need a QBOTF and they know that Mahomes wouldn't have to play for 1-2 years. It's the perfect storm for both the organization and player IMO.

I'd rather have a QB that's either a B+ or C- than one that's either an A or F. It's not even a question.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 04-04-2017 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12808814)
I'd rather have a QB that's either a B+ or C- than one that's either an A or F. It's not even a question.
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ROFL I'm shocked.

RealSNR 04-04-2017 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12808814)
I'd rather have a QB that's either a B+ or C- than one that's either an A or F. It's not even a question.
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Given that ALL QBs have the potential to become Fs, shouldn't you care MORE about which QB has the likeliest chance of reaching the upper levels of his potential?

There ARE no B+ or C QBs. As soon as you think you have one, they're massive ****ing failures.

-King- 04-04-2017 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12808865)
Given that ALL QBs have the potential to become Fs, shouldn't you care MORE about which QB has the likeliest chance of reaching the upper levels of his potential?

There ARE no B+ or C QBs. As soon as you think you have one, they're massive ****ing failures.

Yeah, so I'd take the QB likeliest to give me as close to a consistent A level of play as possible.

It's like if you have 2 choices:

A) I either give you a million dollars or I give you nothing

B) I give you between 700,000 to 850,000 guaranteed

Any rational person takes B right?

Yes Mahomes could end up great, but he could also end up as the next Brock Osweiler. I don't get why anyone would want such a volatile QB.
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New World Order 04-04-2017 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12808876)
Yeah, so I'd take the QB likeliest to give me as close to a consistent A level of play as possible.

It's like if you have 2 choices:

A) I either give you a million dollars or I give you nothing

B) I give you between 700,000 to 850,000 guaranteed

Any rational person takes B right?

Yes Mahomes could end up great, but he could also end up as the next Brock Osweiler. I don't get why anyone would want such a volatile QB.
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We have a 'c' quarterback. His name is Ass

BossChief 04-04-2017 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12808876)
Yeah, so I'd take the QB likeliest to give me as close to a consistent A level of play as possible.

It's like if you have 2 choices:

A) I either give you a million dollars or I give you nothing

B) I give you between 700,000 to 850,000 guaranteed

Any rational person takes B right?

Yes Mahomes could end up great, but he could also end up as the next Brock Osweiler. I don't get why anyone would want such a volatile QB.
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That's a stupid analogy.

The ultimate goal isn't to just get 700-850000 dollars, it's to have a QB worth enough on his own that you have a chance to win the Super Bowl with him.

Alex Smith is that 700000-850000 type QB that gets a team into QB purgatory.

This QB class is a gift from the gods to help us out of that funk.

Mahomes sitting behind Alex for a year (maybe 2) is our best chance at having the QB situation solved for the next decade.

notorious 04-04-2017 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12808888)
That's a stupid analogy.

The ultimate goal isn't to just get 700-850000 dollars, it's to have a QB worth enough on his own that you have a chance to win the Super Bowl with him.

Alex Smith is that 700000-850000 type QB that gets a team into QB purgatory.

This QB class is a gift from the gods to help us out of that funk.

Mahomes sitting behind Alex for a year (maybe 2)is our best chance at having the QB situation solved for the next decade.

Sigh.

RealSNR 04-04-2017 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12808876)
Yeah, so I'd take the QB likeliest to give me as close to a consistent A level of play as possible.



It's like if you have 2 choices:



A) I either give you a million dollars or I give you nothing



B) I give you between 700,000 to 850,000 guaranteed



Any rational person takes B right?



Yes Mahomes could end up great, but he could also end up as the next Brock Osweiler. I don't get why anyone would want such a volatile QB.
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Option B isn't 750k or 800k. It's 750k, 800k, OR a big fat 0.

Just like option A.

And you have to consider if you're more likely to receive 1,000,000 from option A than you are 750 or 800k from option B.

I totally see that happening with a lot of QBs in this class. I think it's more likely that Mahomes, Kizer, and Trubisky will be studs than Peterman will be a negligible Kyle Orton type starter in the league.

Shag 04-04-2017 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12808876)
Yeah, so I'd take the QB likeliest to give me as close to a consistent A level of play as possible.

It's like if you have 2 choices:

A) I either give you a million dollars or I give you nothing

B) I give you between 700,000 to 850,000 guaranteed

Any rational person takes B right?

Yes Mahomes could end up great, but he could also end up as the next Brock Osweiler. I don't get why anyone would want such a volatile QB.
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The only way this analogy makes any sense at all is if it's in a scenario where if you don't get $1M, you lose your house, all your positions, and end up homeless. The bank is going to take any amount you have to settle your debt, so it's just a matter of keeping your house/possessions.

Sure, you can take the $700k and hope a miracle happens at the casino to save your house. Or, you can take the shot at the million, knowing that unless you can save your house, the $700k is meaningless.

Apparently, you're okay with making the playoffs, then one and done. Most of us aren't, and want a shot at a championship. If it blows up, so what - try again until you hit.

ct 04-04-2017 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12808814)
I'd rather have a QB that's either a B+ or C- than one that's either an A or F. It's not even a question.
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congrats, you already have one, #11 Alex Smith

go for the win here chiefs, we have the ammo to move up if mahomes is sitting there in the teens. may not even hurt our draft that much either.

pull the trigger and do it!

ct 04-04-2017 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12808876)
Yeah, so I'd take the QB likeliest to give me as close to a consistent A level of play as possible.

It's like if you have 2 choices:

A) I either give you a million dollars or I give you nothing

B) I give you between 700,000 to 850,000 guaranteed

Any rational person takes B right?

Yes Mahomes could end up great, but he could also end up as the next Brock Osweiler. I don't get why anyone would want such a volatile QB.
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This is precisely the rationale people associate with the Hunts. Option B keeps teams competitive, fills the seats, and makes them profit. Option A wins super bowls, or gets GMs/HC's fired.

It's all about your goals.

Chiefnj2 04-04-2017 10:17 AM

People like Mahomes because he's a rocket armed Johnny Manziel (minus the coke problem)?

staylor26 04-04-2017 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 12809102)
People like Mahomes because he's a rocket armed Johnny Manziel (minus the coke problem)?

Yea, he's exactly like Manziel. Only difference is that he's bigger, has a better arm, and has all the intangibles! :rolleyes:


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