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Sweet Daddy Hate 04-02-2017 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 12806751)
Posted this in the Draft forum. A contrarian take on Mahomes. Don't shoot the messenger.

http://presnapreads.com/2017/04/02/p...ure-of-upside/

Welp, good thing I'm not a "Mahomes or bust" individual.

The Franchise 04-02-2017 08:10 PM

Kizer.

rico 04-02-2017 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12806933)
Kizer.

Yup... Kizer or Webb and I'm pumped.

rico 04-02-2017 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 12806873)
i still think that's a reach. but if i had to choose between watson and trubisky, i'd pick mitch myself. :D

His mother would prefer it if you referred to him as "Mitchell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" :D

Nickhead 04-02-2017 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rico (Post 12806974)
His mother would prefer it if you referred to him as "Mitchell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" :D

i'd call him dad if he fell to the chiefs and he panned out :D

Chief Northman 04-02-2017 09:13 PM

Such a tough evaluation on qb's this year. I've been up and down on all of them. If I had my drothers, I would hope KC lands either Kizer or Watson.

Kizer: the more film I watched, the more I felt he could translate to the NFL the best. He makes reads, has plenty of arm strength, is accurate enough and has mobility and some pocket awareness. He can tend to stare down receivers and over-rotate on throws, but I love how he stands-in the pocket and is willing to deliver the mail. Bright kid by all accounts. Just 21 too.

Watson: The velocity measurement concerns me, and his accuracy last season was not good. What cannot be denied is his ability to make plays in the clutch and get the job done. Well respected in the coaching circles, Watson has all the intagibles you want to be a face of the franchise type player. A weapon to be accounted for in the run game, and with much toughness, it is hard not to root for the young man. He tends to have a few WTF? moments each game with decisions/throws, but he is resilient. Given his style of play, he may be the best system fit for a Reid coached offense.

For me?
1. Kizer
2. Watson

C'mon Dorsey - go get us what this franchise has needed for so long....

pugsnotdrugs19 04-03-2017 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 12806751)
Posted this in the Draft forum. A contrarian take on Mahomes. Don't shoot the messenger.

http://presnapreads.com/2017/04/02/p...ure-of-upside/

Fahey makes some solid points, but he also doesn't give Mahomes near enough credit for his strengths. He basically makes it sound like the only thing Mahomes has proven capable of is throwing the ball really far. That's just not true.

Mahomes' accuracy is actually pretty damn solid, IMO. Of course you're going to miss a few throws when you are chucking it 70+ times a game. Anyone would. When looking at the film, his inaccuracy at times is mostly tied to decision making. Easier said than done, but if you can reel in the decision making, you can probably help to erase a lot of the erratic throws.

Just my two cents. I still like him a lot for the Chiefs.

O.city 04-03-2017 05:45 PM

Fahey had Vernon Adams as the #1 QB in the draft a year or two ago. I'm not really sure about his QB eval skills.

Bewbies 04-03-2017 05:48 PM

Well Vernon Adams is a bonafide stud.

Who is Vernon Adams?

pugsnotdrugs19 04-03-2017 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12808282)
Fahey had Vernon Adams as the #1 QB in the draft a year or two ago. I'm not really sure about his QB eval skills.

Yikes

O.city 04-03-2017 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 12808285)
Well Vernon Adams is a bonafide stud.

Who is Vernon Adams?

He was the Oregon QB that went undrafted and now is in Canada.

pugsnotdrugs19 04-03-2017 05:56 PM

I heard a great analogy for these QBs this morning.

The thinking was that with most of the QBs such as Trubisky or Watson, you were probably sure to have a B+ to C- level QB. With Mahomes, you're looking at probably an A or an F. It's the ultimate gamble. Go big or go home.

Most times, I wouldn't advocate such a pick in the first round. But if you are the Chiefs right now, with a nearly filled roster that could play today if they had to, why wouldn't you roll the dice? They know they need a QBOTF and they know that Mahomes wouldn't have to play for 1-2 years. It's the perfect storm for both the organization and player IMO.

pugsnotdrugs19 04-03-2017 06:01 PM

Pick the QB in R1, make ILB, CB, RB, OLB priorities after that, and then go BPA.

Chief Roundup 04-03-2017 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12808298)
I heard a great analogy for these QBs this morning.

The thinking was that with most of the QBs such as Trubisky or Watson, you were probably sure to have a B+ to C- level QB. With Mahomes, you're looking at probably an A or an F. It's the ultimate gamble. Go big or go home.

Most times, I wouldn't advocate such a pick in the first round. But if you are the Chiefs right now, with a nearly filled roster that could play today if they had to, why wouldn't you roll the dice? They know they need a QBOTF and they know that Mahomes wouldn't have to play for 1-2 years. It's the perfect storm for both the organization and player IMO.

Too risky! We need OL

thabear04 04-03-2017 07:34 PM

Someone post up a link of Mahomes throwing it for 80 yards at his pro day.


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