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Kiimo 06-16-2020 08:19 AM

Yeah I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a single Chiefs fan that would make that trade.

smithandrew051 06-16-2020 08:57 AM

I wonder if Ravens fans have a distorted view of the QB position.

They’ve seen their team win two Super Bowls with Dilfer and Flacco, while Colts fans only saw Manning win 1.

Maybe they don’t see the obvious difference in Mahomes vs everyone else, because they’ve been the outlier in being successful despite never having a truly elite passing QB.

ThaVirus 06-16-2020 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15023102)
I wonder if Ravens fans have a distorted view of the QB position.

They’ve seen their team win two Super Bowls with Dilfer and Flacco, while Colts fans only saw Manning win 1.

Maybe they don’t see the obvious difference in Mahomes vs everyone else, because they’ve been the outlier in being successful despite never having a truly elite passing QB.

I had never considered this but you bring up an interesting point.

Valiant 06-16-2020 09:13 AM

It is funny, that guys whole defense on the matter is stats from last year. Total averaged stats. Mahomes, was injured a few games. He was on pace for 6k yards before it.
Probably a blessing in disguise because wins and Superbowl is more important than 6k.

Kiimo 06-16-2020 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15023102)
I wonder if Ravens fans have a distorted view of the QB position.

They’ve seen their team win two Super Bowls with Dilfer and Flacco, while Colts fans only saw Manning win 1.

Maybe they don’t see the obvious difference in Mahomes vs everyone else, because they’ve been the outlier in being successful despite never having a truly elite passing QB.



Well to be fair this was brought up because Ravens fans are some of the least homer-fans out there in terms of having a grip on where your players actually stand.

I mean there is only one guy saying Lamar is better than Mahomes and he's getting shouted down by everyone else.

DrRyan 06-16-2020 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dmahurin (Post 15022651)
If anyone is registered there they should post the video of lamar passing at the pro bowl competition.

https://youtu.be/hX6uaNbU0aU

Can't get the embedded link on the phone. Enjoy nevertheless.

Rain Man 06-16-2020 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DrRyan (Post 15023154)
https://youtu.be/hX6uaNbU0aU

Can't get the embedded link on the phone. Enjoy nevertheless.


At 0:56, you can see a guy huddled down by some equipment taking shelter because no one can predict where the balls are going. And he still almost got hit.

Halfcan 06-16-2020 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15023102)
I wonder if Ravens fans have a distorted view of the QB position.

They’ve seen their team win two Super Bowls with Dilfer and Flacco, while Colts fans only saw Manning win 1.

Maybe they don’t see the obvious difference in Mahomes vs everyone else, because they’ve been the outlier in being successful despite never having a truly elite passing QB.

Or it could be they are just idiots.

Halfcan 06-16-2020 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15023166)
At 0:56, you can see a guy huddled down by some equipment taking shelter because no one can predict where the balls are going. And he still almost got hit.

LMAO

Funny every time.

Can't wait to beat these punks again.

dls6501 06-17-2020 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15023102)
I wonder if Ravens fans have a distorted view of the QB position.

They’ve seen their team win two Super Bowls with Dilfer and Flacco, while Colts fans only saw Manning win 1.

Maybe they don’t see the obvious difference in Mahomes vs everyone else, because they’ve been the outlier in being successful despite never having a truly elite passing QB.

In fairness, Flacco's SB run was incredible. Played like an elite QB through those playoffs. But I get your point.

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CoMoChief 08-02-2020 11:14 PM

Jackson is a RB who can throw.

He just can't throw well enough to be a pocket passing QB, and in this league you have to have that ability.

I'm willing to bet that Jackson's "running game" isn't going to be nearly as elite as it was last yr. Tennessee showed the world what happens when you make Lamar stay in the pocket and actually have to play the position.

He's gonna flame out in a couple/few yrs unless he gets better at throwing the ball.

Rasputin 08-03-2020 12:21 AM

Lamar Tebow


Tim Jackson



Lamar is Tim Tebow incarnation


Somewhat can throw ball better than TT but he is what the Broncos were hoping Tim Tebow would be.

TheMartyr 08-03-2020 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15023166)
At 0:56, you can see a guy huddled down by some equipment taking shelter because no one can predict where the balls are going. And he still almost got hit.

For comparison’s sake, you can watch the 2019 version (CP won’t let me post link to the video)

Point totals were:
Luck - 5
Trubisky - 11
Watson - 15
Wilson - 19

For the non-QBs, Adam Thielen got 10 points, and Von Miller got 2. So basically, Lamar is equal to Von Miller in this particular skill challenge.

chiefzilla1501 08-03-2020 06:59 AM

Can't even count how many people on Twitter talk about mahomes weapons. As if the ravens don't have the #1 running game and an outstanding defense. We all know lamar is a product of that system.

More importantly nobody seems to remember that mahomes was a winner without tyreek and Sammy, fisher, or half of his OL. With an injured RB and a washed out shady as his main guy. Trying to lead a bottom 5 defense still trying to find its way. Oh, and he did this all on one ankle. There needs to be a bot that just posts this every damn time somebody talks about this nonsense.


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