I like the new system. Makes more sense. Although I question some of your choices with giving Thomas Jones the nod as "starter" just because he technically was the first player on the field. I would give Jamaal Charles the max allowable starts, and let the voters base it on that. Hell with Haley's bizarre choices. He knows who his "money" player is.

The Charles thing is indeed weird, but if we follow the system then he shares it with Jones. The good thing is that we all have the same pair, so it's neutral. Maybe we address special situations like that as we diverge.

I'll go ahead and post these rosters in the main lounge now.

Yeah, sorry I didn't post sooner. Your roster adjustment looked fine to me. 3 WR vs 2 WR and 1 TE don't really matter when all your receivers are garbage. Sigh.

Yeah, all of our receivers are weak, just like the Chiefs. Chiefscafan is doing okay with Crabtree, I guess, and I'm glad I didn't trade away Gonzalez.

Okay, everyone. You can add the following mid-season pickups to your training camp roster.

LB Anderson, Charlie
LB Bakhtiari, Eric
LB Cole, Justin
WR Curtis, Kevin
LB Johnson, Micah
QB Palko, Tyler
TE Slate, Cody
NT Toribio, Anthony
LB Simoneau, Mark
WR Williams, Chandler

These guys all came aboard during the season, right? If not, let me know.

So I'll have my picks tomorrow

Okay, everyone who's playing can make their drafts now.

2011 draft picks

1. Mark Ingram rb alabama
2. Dontay. Moch. OLB. Nevada
3. Leonard Hankerson WR. Miami
3. Allen. Bailey. DE. Miami
4. Owen Marecic. FB. Stanford
5. Ricky Stanzi. QB. Iowa
5. Ahmad. Black. S. Florida
6. Jerrel Powe NT Mississippi
7. Lee Ziemba. OT. Auburn

Picking up someone to compete with Charles at RB, eh?


How did we get the extra 3rd and 5th again? I don't recall.

Rainman Ingram is the replacement to Thomas jones one two punch of Ingram and Charles.

We got the extra fifth for Alex Magee to bucs

The extra third happened when we traded down from 21 to 27 that became 26.


unlike the chiefs I'm weak at TE and safety because I didn't draft moeaki and Lewis

Hmm. None of us had Magee on our roster at the time of the trade, but then again we're still building our unique rosters and Magee was a scrub. Let's make the call that everyone gets the 5th-round pick. Once we have full rosters we won't get the picks if a player who is traded is not on our own roster, or we'll have to come up with some sort of alternate system such as trading the player who is in the same spot on the depth chart.

First off, I'll accept the trade down of our 1st round pick to get the first and the third, like the Chiefs did.

I'm also going to trade down on my second third-round pick (86th pick) with the Rams. It's worth 160 draft points, so if I get only 65 percent of the value, that's 104 points. I'll trade it to the Rams for their 112th pick (70 points) and their 158th pick (29.2 points) and their 228th pick (<3 points).
My draft:

1 26th pick DE Da'Quan Bowers (Buccaneers)
2 55th pick C Rodney Hudson (Chiefs)
3 70th pick WR Leonard Hankerson (Redskins)
4 112th pick WR Greg Salas (Rams)
4 118th pick K Alex Henery (Eagles)
5 135th pick SS Shiloh Keo (Texans)
5 140th pick OT Jason Pinkston (Browns)
5 158th pick OLB Chris Carter (Steelers)
6 199th pick OLB Bruce Miller (49ers)
7 223rd pick G Lee Ziemba (Panthers)
7 228th pick DT Lawrence Guy (Packers)


Here's my training camp roster so far. (Note that it'll get added with any NFL Chiefs free agents in training camp.)

Red are my new rookies.
Blue are street free agents picked up so far by the real Chiefs.

QB
Mark Sanchez (Jets) - 16/16/16
Jimmy Clausen (Panthers) - 0/10/13
Brodie Croyle - 0/1/16
Tyler Palko

HB
Jamaal Charles - 6/6/16
Thomas Jones - 10/10/16
C.J. Spiller. (Bills) 0/1/14
Jackie Battle - 0/0/16

FB
Tim Castille, FB 10/4/10


WR
Dwayne Bowe - 16/16/16
Chris Chambers, WR - 13/7/13
Derrick Williams (Lions) - 3/1/7
Jeremy Horne - 0/0/3
Kevin Curtis
Chandler Williams
Leonard Hankerson (Redskins)
Greg Salas (Rams)

TE
Tony Gonzalez (Falcons) - 16/16/16
Leonard Pope, 6/6/16 (starting as blocker)
Cody Slate

OT
Branden Albert - 15/15/15
Ryan O'Callaghan - 11/1/11
Wade Smith - 7/1/16 (1 as G, 6 as T)
Alex Boone (49ers) - 0/0/1
Jason Pinkston (Browns)

G
Brian Waters - 16/16/16
Lilja, Ryan - 15/15/15
Bruce Campbell (Raiders) - 0/0/10
Duke Robinson (Panthers) - 0/0/0
Lee Ziemba (Panthers)

C
Wiegmann, Casey - 16/16/16
Rodney Hudson (Chiefs)


K
(Scrub) - 16/16
Alex Henery (Eagles)

P
Dustin Colquitt - 16/16/16

FS
Kendrick Lewis - 10/10/10
Jarrad Page (Patriots) 9/1/10 (6 as FS, 3 as SS)

SS
Reshad Jones (Dolphins) - 13/1/13
Shiloh Keo (Texans)

CB
Brandon Flowers - 15/15/15
Brandon Carr - 16/16/16
D.J. Moore (Bears) 1/0/16
Travis Daniels, CB - 0/0/16

OLB
Rey Maualuga (Bengals) - 15/15/15
Dekoda Watson (Buccaneers) - 15/1/15
Andy Studebaker - 2/0/16
Charlie Anderson
Eric Bakhtiari
Justin Cole
Chris Carter (Steelers)
Bruce Miller (49ers)

ILB
Derrick Johnson - 16/16/16
Demorrio Williams - 0/0/16
Micah Johnson
Mark Simoneau

DE
Tamba Hali - 16/16/16
Wallace Gilberry 16/2/16
Alex Carrington (Bills) 0/0/9
Da'Quan Bowers (Buccaneers)

DT
Glenn Dorsey - 16/16/16
Ron Edwards - 8/15/15
Smith, Shaun - 8/10/16
Myron Pryor (Patriots) 0/2/9
Anthony Toribio
Lawrence Guy (Packers)

FYI - I'm going to do this. Haven't gotten my act together yet, but will before training camp begins, assuming there is a training camp.

I wanted to take Bruce Carter at OLB, but couldn't pass up on Bowers. And then I was able to get Bruce Miller and Chris Carter, so I think I have the whole Bruce Carter thing covered anyway.

I accept the trade down of the first pick. Here's my draft and my roster:

1 26th pick - Jonathan Baldwin WR
2 55th pick - Rodney Hudson G/C
3 70th pick - Justin Houston DE
3 86th pick - Johnny Patrick CB
4 118th pick - Julius Thomas TE
5 135th pick - Ricky Stanzi QB
5 140th pick - Karl Klug DE
6 199th pick - Jerrell Powe DT
7 223rd pick - Shane Bannon RB

QB
Matt Cassel - 15/15/15
Brodie Croyle - 1/1/16
QB Palko, Tyler
Ricky Stanzi (Iowa)


HB
Jamaal Charles - 6/6/16
Thomas Jones - 10/10/16
Jackie Battle - 0/0/16


FB
Tim Castille, FB 10/4/10
Shane Bannon


WR
Dwayne Bowe - 16/16/16
Chris Chambers - 11/7/13
Dexter McCluster - 11/7/11
David Reed (Ravens) - 0/0/13
Jeremy Horne - 0/0/3
WR Curtis, Kevin
WR Williams, Chandler
Jonathan Baldwin (Pittsburgh)

TE
Leonard Pope - 16/6/16
Brad Cottam 0/0/0
TE Slate, Cody
Julius Thomas (Portland State)


OT
Branden Albert - 15/15/15
Ryan O'Callaghan - 1/1/11
Brian Waters - 16/16/16 (at T)


G
Lilja, Ryan - 15/15/15
Jon Asamoah - 15/1/16
Kraig Urbik (Bills) - 2/2/10


C
Rudy Niswanger - 16/0/16
Matt Tennant (Saints) - 0/0/16
Rodney Hudson (Florida State)

K
Ryan Succop - 16/16/16

P
Dustin Colquitt - 16/16/16

FS
Kendrick Lewis - 10/10/10
Jarrad Page (Patriots) 6/1/10

SS
Eric Berry - 16/16/16

CB
Brandon Flowers - 15/15/15
Brandon Carr - 16/16/16
Alterraun Verner (Titans) - 1/12/16
Johnny Patrick (Louisville)


OLB
Tamba Hali - 16/16/16
Mike Vrabel - 16/16/16
Andy Studebaker - 0/0/16



ILB
Derrick Johnson - 16/16/16
Sean Lee (Cowboys) - 14/0/14
Corey Mays - 2/0/16
Demorrio Williams - 0/0/16
LB Anderson, Charlie
LB Bakhtiari, Eric
LB Cole, Justin
LB Johnson, Micah
LB Simoneau, Mark

DE
Glenn Dorsey - 16/16/16
Tyson Jackson - 3/3/12
Smith, Shaun - 13/10/16
Wallace Gilberry 0/2/16
Justin Houston (Georgia)
Karl Klug (Iowa)

DT
Ron Edwards - 15/15/15
Tank Tyler (Panthers) - 0/0/0
Anthony Toribio - 1/0/5
Jerrell Powe (Ole Miss)