Honestly on that play the defender threw him back a couple yards. If he would have just went down it would have been spotted at forward progress but he was still on his feet so he tried to run and then got tackled for the loss.

Thanks MVS for the memories. You now have 66.7% of the rings that Jerry Rice has.

Thank god.

He came up big when the lights were brightest. I'll salute him and wish him the best.

Hopefully they have some pretty good ideas with what to do with that money.

I'm not very privy on the Bills moves these past few years, but my guess is they paid high to keep their defense in tact, even as they were getting older.

The Von Miller contract has to be the worst of it, though.

Yep Josh Allen, Stephon Diggs and Von Miller. The trinity of mid.

Great job Veach.

We can buy 2 WR's better for same cap number.

It's magnified because of the situation. Overtime in the Super Bowl is a really bad time to make a bad play. It's easier to overlook because he made a nice gain on the next play and made third down far easier and the drive ended about as well as any drive could ever end.

Thanks for the memories

Denver being almost 20 mil over is much worse. One Pro Bowler and he's on a rookie deal. LMAO

Von is one of the top 5 worst FA signings in league history due to cap implications and performance

The play was well defended but yeah it was magnified. I'm all for re-allocating that money for Jones, Sneed or a better WR.

MVS played similar to how he played in Green Bay.

Not his fault we overpaid him.

The Bills tried to be like the Rams. Just didn't work out. That's the risk of overspending for short-term gain. They have an elite QB though. I expect them to be a thorn so long as Allen is there.

Good work while you were here MVS! Thank you!

The Chiefs dropped MVS early so he could catch on with another team..

Unfortunately he has missed all his flights out of KC.

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Came up big when it was needed the most. Nothing bad to say. Best to him moving forward

Was expected, thanks for the playoffs and enjoy your two rings!

Cheers playoff MVS, all the best.

Plenty of bad to include, so no hair off the Chiefs ass.

Thank god

Thanks for the clutch playoff moments.

Saved his hands for the big games. Respect.

Penell!!!


wait do two non-consecutive years with the chiefs count??????

It's great to see CP, a tough crowd, appreciating all that our beloved MVS gave the Kansas City Chiefs organization. Once the championship round starts, like Sammy before him, MVS is inevitable!

Thank you for this news worthy and informative thread. :)

Well bye

I feel like his release now means he wouldn't take a pay cut. I have to believe that Veach offered him a restructured deal, but based on his entire two seasons of play and not just based on playoff performances, and MVS said no.

He thinks he is better than he actually is, but he helped us get 2 more rings, so good luck to him.

I have said this for two years, MVS is the slowest 4.3 player ever, and he is the smallest 6'4" player ever. He didn't play fast, and he didn't play big. Let's get a true big receiver.

Sold.


But we shall see if that happens.

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Hat tip.

We probably don’t win those Bowls without Valdez-Playoffs, and goddamn winning Super Bowls is a lot of fun.

Like DJ said, beers on KC. Best of luck.

But GODDAMN what could have been if he’d have showed up all season long.

His game sealing catch against Baltimore in this year’s AFCCG will go down as one of his biggest and most underrated plays in his time here.

I mean really all he did was beat the safety deep who was gambling that we were either running or throwing at the sticks. Then mahomes dropped it short so he couldn't screw it up. He still had to catch it yes but while exciting, it wasn't spectacular. His performance in last year's afc title game was a complete body of work. Several big catches in that one.

MVS can make simple catches exciting.

Thanks, MVS for some good playoff moments :wayne:



You darn near killed me during the regular season.;)

The AFCCG against Cincy was probably his best playoff game ever, no doubt. Regardless though that catch vs Baltimore was in a very high pressure situation. He's dropped lesser catches all year.

That's the funeral version of the slow clap from the 80s.

I don’t think we win the SB this year if we didn’t have the road games. And we don’t have the road games without his drops.

This isn’t to absolve him of his horrendous play by any means, but I’m not anymore convinced we’re SB champions if he made some of those catches in the Philly and GB games.

KT next?

He only makes 2.5m this year so maybe they think they can find a role for him. Wouldn't be surprised if he's gone soon though.

I doubt they cut KT. His salary is 2.5 million...and his dead cap hit is 2.5 million.

I personally hope they cut him, but if they don't, I think he has one shot to earn Pat's trust, and if he doesn't, he will be just a kick returner, or when he keeps dropping the ball, or making stupid mistakes, etc. in season, he is going to get released.

Toney is entering a career defining year. We aren’t picking up a 5th year option, so his NFL career depends on him having a career year in 2024.

Maybe we get Ultra Toney 24

Stranger things have happened

They can trade him and save $2.5M. Not sure any team would want him though. Maybe we get a 6th or 7th rounder for him?

Goodbye!

Not that he is going to read this but I appreciate what he did for KC and I wish him the best of luck. He had some great games for us and made some key catches. Obviously he had some bad games as well but he is who he is.

I think he will be a good role player for whatever team signs him.

Skyy Moore doesn’t make that play.

Just give the man his props.

Came up big when it mattered most, and seemed like a genuinely good person. Look forward to MVS back at Arrowhead in a few years to bang the drum, and watch his playoff highlights on the big screen.

What do you mean by "underrated"? I'm pretty sure most (at least here) know what a big and important play that was.

With Toney, I'm way more worried about his attitude than his ability. If there's a chance that he's going to be a cancer, I want him out asap. But if he has his head screwed on right next season, he could absolutely contribute and maybe even have a big year. A lot of those drops were flukey and that's not really who he's been throughout his career.

I did. I just disagree that that was his most impressive play.

They owe him $2.5 million whether he plays or gets cut. I think they will keep him and try him out at returning punts. Just to get something out of him.

I still think it was worth a 3rd and 6th. That punt return completely turned the momentum that ended with us winning a SB. I hope we don't become so ho-hum about winning a SB. I'd pay that every year if it means a SB win.

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To me Watson, Moore and KT are the floor of your WR room, that's actually not terrible. Add a vet and a rookie makes sense. I'd keep an eye on that Remigio kid he'll be this year's Justyn Ross.

Besides Watson, that is absolutely ghastly. Moore and KT are not NFL caliber WRs.

You might be surprised. I get what you mean though. I think outside of CP people won’t realize how huge that catch really was.

Goodbye and thank you, MVS. May you ride off into the sunset as a playoff hero, never to be heard from again.

I think the general consensus is that we will use MVS's money and get a $10-$12 million FA WR and we take a WR in the 1st or 2nd round. We will be fine.

Toney isn't going to be a Chief. They made him a healthy scratch for the SB.

It's over, move on.

What general consensus? Here on CP? Because we sure aren't hearing anything from the team.

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MEHHH was a healthy scratch from last year’s Super Bowl, he no-showed last year’s Super Bowl parade and remained with the team.

It's a business, and sometimes these are the things that have to happen in a league with a cap.

Seems like MVS came here from a Green Bay culture that hazes rookies and he had to learn that Andy Reid has different standards.

Seems like he adjusted to that. He did not have a good year in 2023, and certainly was not worth the 2024 number on his contract, but I give MVS credit for playing to the whistle on plays where the ball was not thrown to him. There were a lot of plays this year where he was blocking downfield when a teammate was trying to get more yards.

He would have had to played out of his mind in 2023 for this not to happen. He did, for the most part, what the Chiefs needed him to do but This was a foregone conclusion unless he had a monster season in '23.

I wonder how many "playoff hero" posts there would be if he wasn't bailed out in OT by our offense and we lost the Super Bowl after he turned what should have been a 2nd & 4 into a 2nd & 14 by doing MVS things.

Correct, but he’s not the mental head case Toney is. From what I heard Toney will cost KC the same amount whether he’s on the team or cut. If that’s the case they might as well keep him and hope next season is better than this one with him.

Let's say you bought tickets for a Willy Wonka event in Scotland and before setting off you hear it's perhaps the shittest event ever in the history of shit events. Would you still go because you had already paid for it or would you say **** it, I'm gonna go to Kohl's for a shit instead?

I'm going for that shit in Kohl's.

He didn't exactly catch the ball and run backwards - guy tried to break a tackle and the oddity of the rules say that if you do so and keep your feet, you get punished for it.

I don't think it's fair to say he didn't anything wrong there. That's a designed quick catch/run where his job is to try to break that tackle and find some grass along the sideline. Dude got squared up, absorbed the blow and then tried to recover and couldn't.

This wasn't a Demarcus Robinson catching and running the wrong way scenario. We see that same play happen to guys every week and it's just a strange way the forward progress rule works on occasion.

Toney is at least a NFL level athlete, Skyy Moore has no reason to keep a roster slot after camp.

Try tellng Chris Jones that. His reaction waa funny as hell!

The third down he converted against Cincy on nothing more than leg drive and effort will be the play I remember most from him. It was at a MASSIVE point in the game and he got stood up a bit, only to power forward and stick the ball out just far enough for the 1st.

It was a massive play and that's one that's definitely going to be lost to time.

I wonder if you would've posted the above if he hadn't made those two tough contested catches in the game against the Bills and we had lost that one.

He is running backwards with one hand on the turf to keep his balance. He should have gone down the instant he started going backwards because there was no avenue to escape. Watch it again, he's hardly been forced backwards by the defenders and it's totally on him that we lost those 10 yards.

There wouldn't have been any playoff hero posts for me to reply to so no.

Also we save money down the line by cutting Skyy Moore, not much but some pennies.