Would make a better fictional horror film than a documentary. This (her pregnancy) was discovered on DEC 7th wasn't it?

I hope the executives go to jail.

n00b

But not in life my friend. And I know f***ed up when I see it.

Kill Bill.

You're thinking of the scene in Kill Bill.

It was being discussed at drill with the National Guard. And that was mentioned. Basically a matter of national security. So, the info can’t be released to the board without background checks, polygraphs and security levels verified.

How do you know that he didn't tie her over a sawhorse?

Kevin Spacey?

Two soldiers are out in the woods when one of them collapses. He doesn't seem to be breathing and his eyes are glazed. The other guy jumps on the radio and requests emergency services. He gasps, "The Sargent is dead! What can I do?" The radio operator says "Calm down soldier. I can help. First, let's make sure he's dead." There is a silence, then a shot is heard. Back on the phone, the guy says "OK, now what?"

But isn’t Spacey ... ?

Wacked?

I figured a sleuth would have posted pictures of the vegetated by now

Hopefully he did the respectful thing and married her.

I bet she was a hottie. They don’t keep ugly bitches alive for 10 years

In AZ they keep rich old ugly bitches alive well into their nineties. This woman was probably a ward of the state without a penny to call her own and was just an entry in the ledger books vs. being treated as a person in a medical facility. Basically a SS # in a bed.


I never liked lawyers but I hope the one who gets to sue these people who operate the system, get into personal assets, and don't allow them to hide behind a corporate shield 501(c)(3) OR NOT!

FYI Anything bother you here?

Timmions has been employed here for 14 years and yet draws no salary that is transparent.

HACIENDA INC
1402 E SOUTH MOUNTAIN AVENUE, PHOENIX, AZ 85040 http://WWW.HACIENDAHEALTHCARE.ORG
Total Revenue
$20,773,814
Total Expenses
$19,375,672
Net Assets
$-1,148,538
Organizations Filed Purposes:
Executives Listed on Filing
Total Salary includes financial earnings, benefits, and all related organization earnings listed on tax filing

Name Title Hours Per Week Total Salary
GARY ORMAN PRESIDENT 2.00 $0
HEATHER TEARFORD ICF RN 40.00 $0
LEAH SHALER VP-HEALTHCARE SUPPORT SERVCIES 40.00 $0
JANET LOVELADY DIRECTOR OF NURSING 40.00 $0
PERRY F PETRILLI VP- RESIDENTIAL SERVICES 40.00 $0
JOSEPH O'MALLEY CFO 40.00 $0
DALE SKURDAHL CHIEF OPERATIONS OFFICER M 40.00 $0
WILLIAM TIMMONS CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER 40.00 $0
MIKE WADE BOARD MEMBER 1.00 $0
THOM NIEMIEC BOARD MEMBER 1.00 $0
KEVIN BERGER BOARD MEMBER 1.00 $0
DICK KAUPIE BOARD MEMBER 1.00 $0
KATHRYN L DEL REAL SECRETARY 2.00 $0
RALPH WALLWORK TREASURER 2.00 $0
PATRICK WALSH VICE PRESIDENT 2.00 $0
TOM POMEROY EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT 2.00 $0
KEVIN PAYNE DIRECTOR OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY 40.00 $0

HACIENDA SKILLED NURSING FACILITY INC
1402 EAST SOUTH MOUNTAIN AVENUE, PHOENIX, AZ 85042 http://WWW.HACIENDAHEALTHCARE.ORG
Total Revenue
$11,124,210
Total Expenses
$9,217,940
Net Assets
$7,797,692

Executives Listed on Filing
Total Salary includes financial earnings, benefits, and all related organization earnings listed on tax filing

Name Title Hours Per Week Total Salary
GARY ORMAN PRESIDENT 2.00 $0
PERRY PETRILLI VP-RESIDENTAL SERVICES 10.00 $0
ROXANNE ROSE ADMINSTRATIVE DIRECTOR OF NURSING AT SNF 40.00 $0
JOSEPH O'MALLEY CFO 10.00 $0
DALE SKURDAHL CHIEF OPERATIONS OFFICER 10.00 $0
WILLIAM TIMMONS CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER 10.00 $0
MIKE WADE BOARD MEMBER 1.00 $0
THOM NIEMIEC BOARD MEMBER 1.00 $0
KEVIN BERGER BOARD MEMBER 1.00 $0
DICK KAUPIE BOARD MEMBER 1.00 $0
KATHRYN L DEL REAL SECRETARY 2.00 $0
RALPH WALLWORK TREASURER 2.00 $0
PATRICK WALSH VICE PRESIDENT 2.00 $0
TOM POMEROY EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT 2.00 $0
LEAH SHALER VP- HEALTHCARE SUPPORT SERVICES 10.00 $0

I wonder what "vegetable" she became?

Silky Carrot?
Sweet Tomato?
Hot Potato?
Stinky Cabbage?

That’s the kind of deal Terry Schiavo’s husband should’ve struck with the rest of her family. Agree to keep her hooked up to life support as long as he’s allowed to **** her no less than twice a day.

ya, exactly.


:rolleyes:

Prayers do get answered.

The dude is one ****ed up guy, but who keeps a person in a vegetative state for that long. JFC, anyone who does that is only doing it for their own selfish reasons.

I am reading it was 14 years not 10 years

Oh, well that makes it alright then.

Sometimes real life is just as screwed up:

https://www.foxnews.com/story/texas-...-from-dead-son

Basically, 20 something son dies due to an accident (was punched, fell onto a curb and was brain dead afterward). His mom says he always wanted kids so she sues to get his sperm for possible artificial insemination at a later date (I don't think mom was planning to carry the baby, that may have been too weird even for her).

I hope she did then got an abortion.

She had a healthy male potato that is in the care of the woman's family. They promise to wash and dry it everyday.

Link??? Ya proof source.

Phoenix police have served a warrant to obtain DNA samples from facility employees and the CEO, Bill Timmons (mentioned in my last post) has resigned.

She has ties as a member of the San Carlos Apache Tribe and under my understanding, they may have legal rights to claim responsibility as a guardian/ advocate for the child along with the state releasing the custody/ adoption matter to the tribe vs the state court. If a father is identified he will have rights but not many from a jail cell.

Maybe there wasn’t penetration. Maybe he jerked some sauce onto a pad and gave her a sponge bath accidentally using his seeded rag. Burden of proof

4 hours ago...

https://www.azfamily.com

Where is the proof that relatives are caring for Baby.

I doubt she had a legal document stating guardianship of a child so either the tribal court or the state will care for the child until it is placed with either family or adoptive parents.

You quoted CNN News ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

So I guess now the story is she has been in the facility for 27yrs

She's been kept alive in a vegetative state for 27 YEARS? For the love of God, why?

I mean, I'm not advocating Logan's Run here, but ****, you'd think at some point they'd realize that she's not waking up, smother her with a pillow and perhaps utilize resources on somebody who might, you know, not be a goddamn vegetable for decades. Hope my tax dollars weren't wasted on this crap, but they probably were.

I long to live in a world where we treat our loved ones as well as we do our pets. :shake:

She must have only been 2 or 3 when she went in.

If they are just figuring out how long she has been there, they will never catch the organ donor

Sounds like she was on a diet of goof balls to the point she was out of it 24/7.

Swimming accident at 3 years old. Abdominal surgery leaving massive scars/ adhesions.

We now know the State was the court looking out for her well being and the last time a Dr gave her a good look was in April where the pregnancy was unseen/ overlooked.

Still can't make this shit up nor believe what was said about her by staff as truth.

Well, they finally caught the veggie ****er...

https://i.imgur.com/iZe71Mo.jpg

Nurse arrested in rape of woman who gave birth at facility

PHOENIX
A nurse who was looking after an incapacitated woman at a long-term health care facility has been charged with raping her, weeks after she stunned her caregivers and family by giving birth to a baby boy, Phoenix police said Wednesday.

Investigators arrested 36-year-old Nathan Sutherland, a licensed practical nurse, on suspicion of one count of sexual assault and one count of vulnerable adult abuse, Phoenix Police Chief Jeri Williams said.

So could you say that "he didn't see what he was doing was wrong"??

Maybe it's not as bad if he's half vegetative himself.

He told her to let him know if she had any objections. I can see why he doesn't date much.

Baby, it's a little cold inside.

FAX

So his mom is a vegetable and his dad is a rapist with a ****ed up eye.... his future is looking bright.

Most people sneak off and have a smoke at work

This guy though

... I gotta wear shades

I think it could go a couple different directions.

Settlement checks... Adoptive parents... Things could get interesting.

I shouldn't laugh

I assume they will now have to prove she didn't consent.

Because I got high, because I got high ...

He be like, “she was dead **** anyway.”

I mean this respectfully - I truly do.

But if she could communicate with taps and facial expressions, and this dude records her saying "tap your finger if you want to have sexual intercourse" - and she does, would that classify as consent and alleviate him of all wrong-doing?

It would be more like if you want me don’t say anything. If you don’t say no. She didn’t say anything.

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Just thinking about this makes me a little nauseous.

Here we have a registered nurse guy who rapes a comatose girl who also happens to be his patient and under his care. Girl gets pregnant. Sick-ass nurse dude still works with girl for months and months and never notices that she is showing signs of pregnancy? And if he does notice, he doesn't do anything? Say anything?

This place is a hell house, man.

FAX

Baby probably has droopy right eye.

hey, you never know.


God works in mysterious ways.

Wondering what the lyrics were...

Nurse accused of getting patient pregnant was Christian rapper who wanted to inspire youth

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.5bf9d83877f0

He did inspire some youth




He probably thought he had a great gig. Probably banging her a couple times on the daily and she didn’t mind his tunes.

Can’t find the embed code but am I the only one reminded of Kill Bill:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2JqFDdvZgHM#

So the ****ing c0cksucking Wash Post is now blaming Christianity and his poor upbringing as an excuse for him?

What a filthy publication! :eek:

Where, exactly, did they blame Christianity?

Are you sure that wasn't "Christian Fapper?" Did they nickname the child "Spud?" Droopy eyed vegetable.... ah...I HATE the off season....

Have we heard from Billay lately?

"What future? Hes black."

Prison Bitch

They didn't

I think the timetable has either Billay doing Clay or one of Clay's "holiday" girls from his online dating site 10 months ago.

I think, rumor has it, they kissed, made up and Billay took Clay out for cocktails early this week.

Billay might post a review....

We don't know the woman's vegetative state, though we do know that she was moaning when the baby was born, which indicates that there's some brain activity.

I've read about people who get "locked in", which is a horrifying situation. They're actually conscious and can see and hear and feel things, but they can't communicate in any way.

So just for the sake of discussion, that you were "locked in" at the age of 18 or so, due to some accident or medical thing. So you lie motionless in your nursing home bed day after day after day for years. You can hear people talk, but you can't move, can't communicate, and you can only look up at the ceiling. You can't eat so you get fed through a tube. Your only human contact is when the nurse comes in and cleans you up every day.

Now imagine that on some quiet night eight years after your arrival, a night shift nurse comes in, shuts the door, and engages in sex with you. Assume for these purposes that the nurse is the gender that you like, but is not attractive.

Would you be horrified? Or would you be grateful for the contact? Remember that you can think perfectly fine. It's you inside your body, but you just can't communicate or move in any way.

And now imagine that the nurse (or you, if you're a woman) gets pregnant? What's your reaction?

As screwed up as it is, it might actually be a positive thing if I was that person. It would create my legacy, and it would give me someone to think about. If the kid was brought to visit me every year, it would be a highlight even if I couldn't do anything but see and hear them.

Now, I'm not saying at all that it would be the right thing for the nurse to do. It's clearly the wrong thing, and horrifyingly wrong from the viewpoint of society. Further, I'm presenting this as a hypothetical that has nothing to do with the real-life case, because I have no idea of this woman's mental condition.

But as a hypothetical, what do you think?

I don't think the patient would have considered this interaction therapeutic.

FAX

in new york they could have aborted it the day before delivery :cuss:

i like you, but that's kinda ****ed up? :D

So she moaned when the baby came out, wonder if she moaned when the baby was being put in???

Yes from first page of this very thread you know Buck likes to ****

The defense attorney for the nurse accused of sexually assaulting an incapacitated woman who gave birth in an Arizona long-term care facility last month says there is “no direct evidence” his client is to blame.

In court on Wednesday, attorney David Gregan told the judge that Nathan Sutherland, the licensed practical nurse fired by Hacienda HealthCare in Phoenix after his arrest, had no criminal record and deserved a low bond amount that would let him be set free from jail while the investigation proceeds, reports The Associated Press.




https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...212218629.html

“Hacienda HealthCare, in a statement after Sutherland’s arrest, said the company is “troubled beyond words to think that a licensed practical nurse could be capable of seriously harming a patient. Once again, we offer an apology and send our deepest sympathies to the client and her family, to the community and to our agency partners at every level.”

He looked so normal.

Just a puzzled look of "have you put it in yet? You're done?' Sad face...

You know that look..:D:D:D:D

They are just trying to keep their jobs secure for when she becomes the owner of Haciena HC. I bet they are stealing, transferring every asset they can before they get put into trusteeship.