Heard a rumor middle of the year that Pioli and Mangini mended some fences and were talking again.

When I asked the guy if that meant Mangini could end up here if Pioli was still around, he said I'd bet on it.

OMFG

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Oh.

Well that's.....uh....lovely.

It's incredible how awful this guy is at his job.

***** " So, Clark, i think im going to bring in Mangini to clean up this mess"

Clark "hold that thought" He Immediately picks on his phone and dials Reid.

Nobody in the media knows where anybody is on anybody's draft board at this point. And all the teams' draft boards will change in the next month anyway. Mockers right now are throwing out guesses, which is difficult because this is a year that doesn't have any obvious blue chip talent that stands out above the rest of the class. So they naturally migrate towards perceived 'safe' picks like o- and d-linemen. Although you're still seeing QBs near (or at) the top because that's the league's tendency in recent history. And let's face it, we have a (deserved) reputation as a conservative franchise that won't draft a quarterback.

It's remarkable. To watch him parade around now as some expert drives me nuts too.

I don't think it went like that. Pioli was basically told after the Broncos game that he no longer had organizational control and that the coach would dictate if he was still around.

Pioli tried to submit a list of candidates he thought would be good fits to Clark and Mangini was on the top of that list. Mangini, Ferentz, Dean Pees, and Paul Pasqualoni were on that list.

All ****ing tree hugging assholes.

Jesus H. Stop Dancing Christ...

Good post.

Wow

That would be giving up on the team for 3 years, meaning most of our Pro Bowl talent is gone. It assumes that KC fans do not want to advance to the postseason until after 2015 and would be patient to have the same old crap fed to us on a different spoon. It would assume that Dorsey (who has seen two HoF QBs save Green Bay) and Reid (who has seen his teams with McNabb and without) somehow think that a top QB is not important to a winning franchise. It would assume that they would be content with an 8-8 record and picking 13th when a star QB appears in a futures draft. It assumes that the team holding the #1 pick that year will want to trade with us at #13 and will not take better offers elsewhere, leaving us to wait another generation with mediocre QBs until we have the #1 pick again (only to be told by the media that there is no generational QB in the draft) and that we should take a big body that won't make any difference in our win loss record.

If Hunt, Reid and Roberts are that stupid, we are all screwed until the next GM and HC arrive in five years.

I'm confident he would have let Albert walk so he could draft a LT and tell Clark how much $$$ he just saved him.

THIS, THIS, A THOUSAND TIMES THIS.

The biggest clue to Reid's plan is this concept of his 'shell'.
You need a plus LT (Albert. already here. just sign the paper. No question marks.)
You need a QB (got nothing. Nothing at all, and the only FA's available also are not anything close to a plus player.)
Pass rushers (we have bookend rushers with Hali and Houston.) The reason you see D-line picks a lot is that they always ran a 4-3, so your pass rushers are ENDS in that case. Here, they are OLB's, and we already have two excellent ones.
#1 corner-we have that too. Flowers needs some help, it's true, but we've got a #1. We need a #2 like we need air, but that's another matter.

In Andy's 'shell' concept, we are missing only the QUARTERBACK. We have OT's. We have pass rushers, we have a corner. we need a QUARTERBACK.

So we could have had Mangini and Joeckel with Bowe and Albert gone. Luckily I don't have to find out how made that would have made me.

I want to ****ing vomit.

If he didn't draft Joeckel, he would have taken ****ing Sharif mother****ing Floyd.

I used to have respect for Peter King, now that fat **** can choke on an AIDS doughnut.

He kind of has a point though. Wouldn't signing Alex Smith and not drafting a QB till the late rounds be EXACTLY what the team has done the last couple of decades? We HAVE to go QB number one and I don't give a **** what Kiper or any other slapdick says, their are valid options available.

LMAO.

And the kicker would have been the multitude of dumb mother****ers applauding these moves.

What? Welker > Bowe. Joke > Albert. Glennon = franchise QB.

FFS.

The exact wording Peter King uses in his article to describe Fat Scott's departure from the Chiefs is interesting:

A misstatement on King's part perhaps, but considering how much of a public mouthpiece King has been for Fat Scott, I wouldn't be surprised if this wording was used intentionally even though the Chiefs official wording was a "mutual parting of ways".

Wow, just wow. It's apparent that a man who was the highest paid GM in the NFL actually knew absolutely nothing about talent evaluation. Pioli was nothing but a Patriot cipher. I knew the guy was a terrible GM, I didn't realize the depths of his incompetence.

This guy is one of the ten BEST underclassmen according to Pioli:

In the official NFL evaluation report that Escobar got lat week, Long said Escobar was projected to go as high as the third round of the draft.

It's not about the best, but the right. Duh.

53 team captains, 2 wins

Who is advocating not drafting a QB until the late rounds? NAME ONE PERSON. This is a strawman argument.

And it has NOTHING to do with my post, which was about the absurd and quite frankly insane idea that Dorsey and Reid might not know about "modern" NFL football, but people on this forum do. They both have put together SB teams, and none of you have.

You might want to learn reading comprehension.

Scott Pioli had put together super bowl teams too. That line is tired
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LMAO

No he hadn't. BB did.

You guys that think you know more about football than Reid and Dorsey are insane.

This thread is like reading scary alternate history.

LMAOLMAO

I'm not one of those guys.

But, Dorsey technically didn't build anything either. Reid wasn't the GM.

We can play this game but as I said the line you used is worn out
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So is your line. Face it, no one here knows any more about drafting than anyone else. A lot of delusions of grandeur though.

What line did I use?

we have heard the insert name built a super bowl team I trust them line before.

Where did that get us?

they will have to earn it here IMO. So far its a+ in my book
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Clark probably gives Pioli another 3 seasons with Glennon and Pepper ****ing Johnson leading this shitshow.

I would have gone absolutely ****ing insane, probably grown a long beard and started living in a cave or something.

This is usually overlooked.

So we are back to the ol "you guys don't know as much about football as these guys, they are GM's in de NFL" line.


There are about 6 or 7 guys on CP, that I would put in a room together and they could have drafted better than Pioli, the GM of the decade, ever did.

Well, gee, we might as well all stop talking then, if we're not certified geniouses.

I agree, I'm not in that group, admittedly, but this is spot on
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ROFL

Next to BlackDouche, you're THE dumbest mother****er that posts in the forum.

According to YOU, no one knows anything about football.

No one knows anything about Hawaiians.

No knows anything about the economy, their own businesses, the universe, pussy, the clitoris and most definitely, no one knows anything about anything.

You're a ****ing moron. **** off.

Oh, if I wasn't clear, **** OFF.

So we would have ended up with Gholston and Clausen top 10 then?

You could throw darts at a board and draft better than *****, what the **** does that prove, and what does that have to do with Reid and Dorsey? Pioli is gone, we are talking about NOW.

Another strawman, since I wasn't talking about *****. Is that all you guys can do?

Right

:facepalm:

Do you have a drool cup handy when you type?

**** you. At least I'm not the biggest asshole here, like you are.

I wasn't talking to you, dumbshit.

Strawmen, we have plenty of them here. All anyone here has done is attack things I HAVEN'T said.

Can anyone here read?

LMAO

You're a drooling ****ing Mongo.

Apparently, YOU can't read.

I attacked EXACTLY what you've said.

Mongo.

Did you get your mom to type that for you?

No, I had your mother type it while my dick was in her mouth.

You're a ****ing reerun but your mom gives good head.

She's even better at anal.

What I said IN RESPONSE TO A STRAWMAN ATTACK.

****ing idiots here. I said Reid and Dorsey have both put together SB teams, and someone attacked me by saying 4 or 5 people here could draft better than Pioli. Can't you see how the attack was on something I never said? Then I tell them I never said that and you attack me, you dumb mother****er.

And you are so ****ing stupid I have to explain to you why it is a strawman.

LMAO

:shake:

She turned 89 in September. You always go for women that old?

Riiight

I didn't think you would understand. You would have to have an IQ over 65.

Well they honestly could draft better than Reid lately and Dorsey has never drafted. SO??????

Yeah, you're a real ****ing genius

I don't agree. But I guess we'll never know, since no NFL teams are hiring any of them.

Well, compared to you.

You don't agree? Shit they've done it one here and it's been proven that they could.

So in your opinion just because a guy has a job in the NFL as a scout or GM etc, he has more knowledge than any other guy in regards to football?

No, I'm saying that Reid and Dorsey have more knowledge of football and scouting than they do. The fact that they THINK they know more, and they have a bunch of sycophants that believe them doesn't mean much. It is just narcissism.

This whole thing started when one of them said that Reid and Dorsey may not understand "modern" football, which is laughable since they have both had success in modern football. I called them on it, and since then you guys have spent pages defending that absurd statement.

****ing delusional ****

I really don't understand why you're allowed here.

That's because you're a mouth-breathing moron

That's fine Dane. It's my mission from this point on to get you banned. Carry on with your daily rants telling people how worthless they are and everything else.

You are the bravest Internet soul that lives 2,000 miles away that I have ever seen.

LMAO

Good luck with that, War Hero.

It's too bad that ChiefButtHurt is already in use as a username because it suits you perfectly.

I'm not but hurt at all, people come here to talk football. You come here to make your baby dick hard by intimidating people you will never see. Bc if you ever talked to anyone that way in person you'd be flat on your back.

I'd be willing to bet you've fumbled thru life with little, to no success. You have some serious ****ing issues.

Hilarity ensues.

LMAO

Wow, I'd be flat on my back, eh War Hero?

Willing to bet? Little to no success? Okay.

How much would you like to bet?

As someone who's fumbled through life with little to no success, I'm insulted by being categorized with Dane in any way.

They won't ban him, he has been like this for years.

:deevee:

STFU n00b

:spock:

Neg rep is stupid, neg me bitch I dont care. Say that shit out in the open

This place is full of class acts. Unbelievable

Are you talking to me? I didn't rep you one way or the other.

I did the spock look because it seemed odd to see a Jan '13 join date with 13 posts call somebody else a noob.

Yeah, you're a beacon of hope, War Hero.

Still waiting on that bet.

He was telling me to shut up, and got mad that I neg rep'd him. Because he's the only new guy to ever get negged on CP...

Its called irony mister spock

i aint mad, u mad and did the whole neg rep thing. neg rep is for pussies. cant stand the heat get out the kitchen son.