ChiefsPlanet

ChiefsPlanet (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Nzoner's Game Room (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   NFL Draft All-Time Best First Round (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=268376)

Rasputin 01-02-2013 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9269780)
Candidates at #31

Bear Bryant, 1936 (okay, he probably didn't play much, but it's cool.)
Bill Forester, 1953
Rosey Grier, 1955
Tommy McDonald, 1957
Curley Culp, 1968Bill Bergey, 1969
Carl Pickens, 1992
Nnamdi Asomugha, 2003

Curley Culp

Rasputin 01-02-2013 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9269786)
#1 Buck Buchanan and not debatable

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9270079)
Terry Bradshaw #1 overall #1

Altho good choice on your part, but I'd take Buck Buchanan not withstanding the four Super Bowls Terry Bradshaw won. Buck Buchanan was a special kind of player.

Saul Good 01-02-2013 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe (Post 9269860)
If I made this a series of polls, what do you guys think about the following stipulations:

1. "All-time" actually just means "since the 1970 merger"
2. They have to have been drafted in the 1st round at the time, so for example Drew Brees wouldn't qualify because there were only 31 teams when he was drafted 32.

Hmm? Good, bad, no, yes?

It would be interesting to me if you took the top 55 picks, regardless of round, and had to create a full roster.

CoMoChief 01-02-2013 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9269681)
Deion Sanders @5

89 draft was tha bomb

Tony Mandarich (sp?) is somewhere crying

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/YU_GMEUEX9Y" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

O.city 01-02-2013 06:29 PM

Geno Smith #1?

Rain Man 01-02-2013 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe (Post 9269860)
If I made this a series of polls, what do you guys think about the following stipulations:

1. "All-time" actually just means "since the 1970 merger"
2. They have to have been drafted in the 1st round at the time, so for example Drew Brees wouldn't qualify because there were only 31 teams when he was drafted 32.

Hmm? Good, bad, no, yes?

Sounds fun to me.

Per the Buck Buchanan suggestion, will you also include AFL draft picks? It's a gray area since some players were drafted in both leagues, but a guy like Buck gets shafted if we don't include the AFL. I'm not sure what the right answer is.

Chief_For_Life58 01-02-2013 08:06 PM

deion sanders over glenn dorsey at number 5. seriously?!?!?

beach tribe 01-02-2013 08:07 PM

Peyton Manning #1?? maybe

beach tribe 01-02-2013 08:08 PM

I really hate to bring this up, but Walter Peyton was picked 4th.
Not asking for a change though.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-02-2013 08:16 PM

Ryan Sims #6

Bearcat2005 01-02-2013 09:23 PM

Ray Lewis Rd1:26 (1996)

RunKC 01-02-2013 09:25 PM

Why the **** is Ray Lewis not at 26 yet? OP WTF are you doingggggggg

threebag 01-02-2013 09:28 PM

29th overall George Brett but it was the second round.

Thig Lyfe 01-02-2013 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9270305)
Sounds fun to me.

Per the Buck Buchanan suggestion, will you also include AFL draft picks? It's a gray area since some players were drafted in both leagues, but a guy like Buck gets shafted if we don't include the AFL. I'm not sure what the right answer is.

Yeah, I think I'd want to avoid gray areas... seems like the easiest way to get a unified draft board is to only pull from the unified era. But I know that would screw over Buck and other greats from before 1970. It's a tough decision...

Nightfyre 01-02-2013 09:33 PM

Dana Stubblefield or Ray Lewis that is tough.

hometeam 01-02-2013 09:34 PM

#1 Bo Jackson

threebag 01-02-2013 09:36 PM

#1 of 1 Earl Campbell.

Rain Man 01-02-2013 09:37 PM

#24 picks - The last decade was golden at this spot.

Calvin Hill, 1969
Roger Carr, 1974 (I enjoyed watching that guy.)
James Brooks, 1981 (perhaps my second-favorite non-Chiefs RB after Barry Sanders)
Ed Reed, 2002
Dallas Clark, 2003
Steven Jackson, 2004
Aaron Rodgers, 2005
Johnathan Joseph, 2006
Chris Johnson, 2008

Psyko Tek 01-02-2013 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo (Post 9269877)
Sorry Chiefs fans but #4 has to be Walter Payton

BEST RUNNING BACK EVER

Rain Man 01-02-2013 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 9271392)
#1 of 1 Earl Campbell.

Oh. Yeah. So Brooks is my third-favorite non-Chiefs running back of all time.

Sanders.
Campbell.
Brooks.

Rain Man 01-02-2013 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psyko Tek (Post 9271412)
BEST RUNNING BACK EVER

Well, heck. Can I just say that I really liked James Brooks?

Thig Lyfe 01-02-2013 09:40 PM

Wait, would you perhaps go for Calvin Johnson at #2???

Rain Man 01-02-2013 09:41 PM

#23 picks

Bill George, 1951
Ray Guy, 1973
Ozzie Newsome, 1978
David Williams, 1989
Ty Law, 1995
Antoine Winfield, 1999
Dwayne Bowe, 2007

threebag 01-02-2013 09:42 PM

If you threw in a 3 piece fish n more.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe (Post 9271453)
Wait, would you perhaps go for Calvin Johnson at #2???


Rain Man 01-02-2013 09:48 PM

#22 picks - Not the biggest names, perhaps.

Ernie Stautner, 1950
Buddy Dial, 1959
Fred Arbanas, 1961
Hanford Dixon, 1981
Andre Rison, 1989

Rain Man 01-02-2013 09:50 PM

#21 picks

Lynn Swann, 1974
Robin Cole, 1977
Jerry Robinson, 1979
John Alt, 1984
Robert Smith, 1993
Randy Moss, 1998
Vince Wilfork, 2004

Rain Man 01-02-2013 09:53 PM

#20 picks

Forrest Gregg, 1956
Jack Youngblood, 1971
Mike Quick, 1982
Steve Atwater who didn't hit Okoye that hard, he just caught him off balance. Sheesh. 1989
Dale Carter, 1992
Tamba Hali, 2006

Ace Gunner 01-02-2013 09:55 PM

#1= Peyton, Elway or Bradshaw.


i'll go with Peyton.

L.A. Chieffan 01-02-2013 09:56 PM

Somebody gave rain man a project.

Rain Man 01-02-2013 09:57 PM

#19 picks

Roger Wehrli, 1969
Otis Wilson, 1980
Joey Browner, 1983
Ron Solt, 1984 (heck of a run blocker if you don't remember him)
Randall McDaniel, 1988
Marvin Harrison, 1996
Shaun Alexander, 2000

Ace Gunner 01-02-2013 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9271563)
#20 picks

Forrest Gregg, 1956
Jack Youngblood, 1971
Mike Quick, 1982
Steve Atwater who didn't hit Okoye that hard, he just caught him off balance. Sheesh. 1989
Dale Carter, 1992
Tamba Hali, 2006

Jack Youngblood was the man

Rain Man 01-02-2013 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9271581)
Somebody gave rain man a project.

OCDD - Obsessive Compulsive Draft Disorder.

Rain Man 01-02-2013 10:02 PM

#18 picks

Tuffy Leemans, 1936
Bruiser Kinard, 1938
John Henry Johnson, 1953
Ray Mansfield, 1963
Paul Krause, 1964
Art Monk, 1980

Rain Man 01-02-2013 10:05 PM

#17 picks

Tobin Rote, 1950
Mel Renfro, 1964
Gene Upshaw, 1967 even though his team was a bunch of thugs
Emmitt Smif, 1990
Sebastian Janikowski, 2000
Steve Hutchinson, 2001

Rain Man 01-02-2013 10:05 PM

Okay, gotta get back to work. I'll do more later if anybody cares. Or even if they don't.

MeatRock 01-02-2013 10:05 PM

#6 Jim Brown 1957 draft.
nvm you said since the merger.
Scratch ol' Jimmah

topher79 01-02-2013 10:12 PM

#8 Ronnie Lott (1981)

Thig Lyfe 01-02-2013 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 9271673)
#6 Jim Brown 1957 draft.
nvm you said since the merger.
Scratch ol' Jimmah

I mean, there's nothing definitive on that, really.

Maybe we start another thread for pre-merger drafts...

BIG_DADDY 01-02-2013 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topher79 (Post 9271728)
#8 Ronnie Lott (1981)

Hell yea

AussieChiefsFan 01-03-2013 04:38 AM

Michael Irvin, Pick #11

?

AussieChiefsFan 01-03-2013 04:39 AM

Marcus Allen Pick #10

AussieChiefsFan 01-03-2013 04:40 AM

Darrell Green #28

?

AussieChiefsFan 01-03-2013 04:41 AM

Ozzie Newsome #23

AussieChiefsFan 01-03-2013 04:44 AM

Rod Woodson Pick #10

AussieChiefsFan 01-03-2013 04:46 AM

Ronnie Lott Pick #8

AussieChiefsFan 01-03-2013 04:47 AM

Jim Brown Pick #6

AussieChiefsFan 01-03-2013 04:47 AM

And Yea Id go with Manning at #1

Exoter175 01-03-2013 05:04 AM

Since this is about first round picks, #32 has to be Brees hands down.

AussieChiefsFan 01-03-2013 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9272671)
Since this is about first round picks, #32 has to be Brees hands down.

I think Brees was 2nd round

Exoter175 01-03-2013 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9272678)
I think Brees was 2nd round

Ahh, you're right. For some reason the site I used to sort 32's didn't deselect picks outside of the rounds. Hmm. That makes this tough.

AussieChiefsFan 01-03-2013 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9272690)
Ahh, you're right. For some reason the site I used to sort 32's didn't deselect picks outside of the rounds. Hmm. That makes this tough.

haha yea, When you said Bress I thought OH YEA OFCOURSE.

Exoter175 01-03-2013 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9272692)
haha yea, When you said Bress I thought OH YEA OFCOURSE.

We'd all feel like idiots if that were the case, fortunately that isn't the case haha.

I'd totally homer pick David Wilson because I ****ing LOVE what that guy brings to the table, but there hasn't been enough time to really test him out, I'm sure there's much more veteran, stoic, and storied guys who deserve that spot.

But if I had to choose a #32 guy going into the future, David Wilson is my guy for sure.

Exoter175 01-03-2013 05:57 AM

How about Logan Mankins or Mathias Kiwanuka?

ChiliConCarnage 01-03-2013 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9272678)
I think Brees was 2nd round

It was as ATL gave SD their 1st and 2nd rounder to move up and pick Vick at #1. insane how that trade ended up working out. Tomlinson and Brees >>>> Vick

I think we need some more rules to the draft. Are we drafting the best player inclusive of positional importance? That seems kind of boring as a ton of QBs will be picked. Look at how many people are taking Big Ben at 11. You could argue he's the 8th or 9th best active QB in the NFL now. Is he a better QB than Willis is a lber?

For current players are we drafting on what they've accomplished so far or are we including future seasons? but then you have to assume how they'll continue to perform. Aaron Rodgers might be Carson Palmered in this postseason and put up 4 more mediocre seasons. If were just taking total career to this point I'd probably have to think about Ed Reed @ #24.

crossbow 01-03-2013 07:59 AM

Reggie White selected 4th in 1985 by Eagles.
Bruce Smith selected 1st in 1985 by Bills.

Amnorix 01-03-2013 08:00 AM

Ty Law or Bruce Armstrong might be a contender at #23. Can't think of any 23rd picks that rocked the world, anyway.

As Rain Man said, Logan Mankins is in the running at #32.

That's it from Patriot-land. All our other best picks have someone who is pretty obviously ahead of them at that draft slot. Don't think anyone here will take John Hannah over DT at #4, etc.

Amnorix 01-03-2013 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe (Post 9271453)
Wait, would you perhaps go for Calvin Johnson at #2???


Nope.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-03-2013 08:01 AM

I hate to say it, but Reggie White belongs at 4.

Amnorix 01-03-2013 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9271579)
#1= Peyton, Elway or Bradshaw.


FYP.

AussieChiefsFan 01-03-2013 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9272936)
I hate to say it, but Reggie White belongs at 4.

Blasphemy!

Amnorix 01-03-2013 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9272936)
I hate to say it, but Reggie White belongs at 4.


Yeah, 'fraid so.

Amnorix 01-03-2013 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crossbow (Post 9272929)
Reggie White selected 4th in 1985 by Eagles.
Bruce Smith selected 1st in 1985 by Bills.


Great as Smith was, you don't take him over Elway/Manning. You just don't.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-03-2013 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9272945)
Blasphemy!

Pains me deeply, but I'm keepin it real.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-03-2013 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 9272947)
Great as Smith was, you don't take him over Elway/Manning. You just don't.

GOT to be Manning, or Elway.

Exoter175 01-03-2013 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9272951)
GOT to be Manning, or Elway.

Go ahead and take Elway off that list then and go for Manning, I don't see the two on the same tier personally. Call me crazy, but if we're talking #1 selection here, I'm taking the most cerebral QB to ever play the game.

CoMoChief 01-03-2013 08:11 AM

was Peyton Manning drafted 1st or 2nd?

suds79 01-03-2013 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9272964)
was Peyton Manning drafted 1st or 2nd?

1st

suds79 01-03-2013 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9272653)
Marcus Allen Pick #10

I 2nd this.

Watched a football life documentary on him a couple weeks ago. Forgot what an unbelievable career he had.

No doubt should fill that #10 spot.

crossbow 01-03-2013 08:16 AM

Does Lenny the cool get consideration at #1 overall.

"65 toss power trap"

http://youtu.be/coZxFtVsBVg

Amnorix 01-03-2013 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9272960)
Go ahead and take Elway off that list then and go for Manning, I don't see the two on the same tier personally. Call me crazy, but if we're talking #1 selection here, I'm taking the most cerebral QB to ever play the game.


I'd take Manning over Elway, personally.

Deberg_1990 01-03-2013 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 9272990)
I'd take Manning over Elway, personally.

Wow, Manning is good.....but hes not nearly as clutch as Elway was.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 01-03-2013 08:24 AM

Willie Roaf 8
Bruce Matthews 9
DeMarcus Ware 11

Amnorix 01-03-2013 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 9272976)
I 2nd this.

Watched a football life documentary on him a couple weeks ago. Forgot what an unbelievable career he had.

No doubt should fill that #10 spot.


Went through the list of choices at #10. It's between Ron Woodson, Jerome Bettis and Marcus Allen, with a passing nod to Terrell Suggs and Herman Moore, who was a great WR dealing with crappy Lions QBs.

Out of that group, I'd probably take Marcus Allen, though it's not exactly a slam dunk over Woodson. I think he's clearly ahead of Bettis, however, as he was much more of a receiving threat.

Amnorix 01-03-2013 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9272992)
Wow, Manning is good.....but hes not nearly as clutch as Elway was.


Umm....sure? As the guy who saw Manning mount more than a few furious come from behind victories, including one over the Patriots in the 2005 AFCCG when down something like 31-17 in the second half, Manning is plenty clutch for me.

Believe me, I'd take Tom Brady over either of them, but as between Manning and Elway, I'll take Manning. The biggest advantage Elway has over Manning in my book isn't some vague "clutch" thing, it's his running/scrambling ability.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 01-03-2013 08:30 AM

Warren Sapp 12

TheGuardian 01-03-2013 08:32 AM

Terry Bradshaw at #1.

Amnorix 01-03-2013 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 9273034)
Terry Bradshaw at #1.


Not even close. Not even remotely close to being close. So far from close that it is, in fact, far.

AussieChiefsFan 01-03-2013 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 9273034)
Terry Bradshaw at #1.

Naaaah

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 01-03-2013 08:43 AM

Marvin Harrison 19
Tim Brown 6
Champ Bailey 7

Amnorix 01-03-2013 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudy Was Offsides. (Post 9273072)
Marvin Harrison 19
Tim Brown 6
Champ Bailey 7


I gotta stop this, but...

at number 6 (assuming 1970 forward) the contenders are:

Richard Seymour, Torry Holt, Walter Jones, Tim Brown, James Lofton, and John Riggins.

Out of that group, I like Seymour, Jones and Brown over the rest, and think I would take Jones over all of them, as one of the top 3 or so best offensive tackles in NFL history.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:32 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.