Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9288831)

So you believe this team needs a DE more than they need to get Arenas the **** off the field?

ROFL

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9288845)

If we lose Jackson and Dorsey. Yes I do.

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9288823)

There is no way the need for 1 CB is more important than the need of 2 DE. This is a QB driven league. We need DLine to go along with our current pass rush to disrupt the opponents QB play.
The good defenses always have a better front 7 than the secondary.

Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 9288851)

Every team has holes and positions of need or positions where they can upgrade. No team is perfect.

Get a ****ing QB in here and we'll be competing.

We already replaced our shit coaching staff with a much better one, same in the front office.

Yes, we want to make our team as good as possible around our QB. But if we have a few holes at ILB and DE and safety, its not the end of the world.

We havent had a good QB for so long, that we're not used to winning even with a bunch of holes everywhere else.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9288873)

You're smoking crack

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9288890)

More dumb shit.

The Chiefs gave up a franchise record number of points this year. Their secondary, outside of Flowers and Berry, were absolutely garbage.

I don't want to hear this shit about how you need spend money and high draft picks on defensive ends, when they don't rush the passer in the 3-4 defense.

If the Chiefs NEED find a solid #2 CB in the draft or free agency. The Chiefs NEED to find a solid starting safety opposite Berry. The Chiefs NEED to find a solid ILB next to Johnson in the draft or free agency.

Defensive end is the very LEAST of their worries.

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9288896)

Oh really. Do you think that the Ravens, Steelers, 49ers have a better secondary than they do in thier front 7?

If you do you are the

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9288903)

Agree.

But we also scored a record few amount of points this year. So we need help on both sides.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9288915)

Outside of starting and backup QB's, the Chiefs have plenty of weapons in order to compete in 2013, especially with Andy Reid calling the plays.

But the defense will get shredded if they don't upgrade the safety and #2 CB position and at least address the ILB position with an even average starter.

As I said earlier, if they won't or can't, the Chiefs will lose a lot of games 41-38.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9288908)

I am the what?

You're a ****ing reerun.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9288915)

Outside of starting and backup QB's, the Chiefs have plenty of weapons in order to compete in 2013, especially with Andy Reid calling the plays.

But the defense will get shredded if they don't upgrade the safety and #2 CB position and at least address the ILB position with an even average starter.

As I said earlier, if they won't or can't, the Chiefs will lose a lot of games 41-38.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9288915)

Outside of starting and backup QB's, the Chiefs have plenty of weapons in order to compete in 2013, especially with Andy Reid calling the plays.

But the defense will get shredded if they don't upgrade the safety and #2 CB position and at least address the ILB position with an even average starter.

As I said earlier, if they won't or can't, the Chiefs will lose a lot of games 41-38.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9288953)

Outside of Bowe, they've got literally JACK and SHIT at WR.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9288953)

The need to address #2 CB and S. People are way too concerned about the ILB position.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9288998)

How can you make that determination when Daboll was a ****ing reerun? Also, Cassel and Quinn were historically bad.

I don't think there's a chance in hell that Breaston went from a $25 million dollar, solid #2 or #3 receiver to complete shit in one offseason. And Baldwin has talent. And Wylie was a 4th rounder.

Even an average QB will improve their numbers.



Way too concerned? So, you're comfortable starting Silar in 2013? I disliked Belcher greatly, yet Silar was behind him.

I'm not advocating spending a Day One or Day Two pick on ILB. But the position needs to be addressed before opening day.

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 9288955)

To win the big games besides having a good QB is a great pass rush in the 4th qrtr - Bill Walsh

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9289005)

I don't have a problem with addressing ILB in the draft. We have 2 or 3 bigger needs.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9288953)

Outside of Bowe, they've got literally JACK and SHIT at WR.

The need to address #2 CB and S. People are way too concerned about the ILB position.

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9289401)

In order of importance:

1. QB
2. CB
3. MLB
4. FS
5. WR

And the wide receiver spot is contingent upon Breaston staying and Baldwin's capability of being a positive reclimation project and what they plan to do with McCluster.

Breaston obviously had problems with the idiocy of 'Team-killer' 'Team-killer' Pioli, Crennel and Daboll. I can't fault him and he's a good #3.

I feel that Baldwin can be effective if we actually had someone that could throw the ball more than 5 yards.

McCluster...eh. He was getting touches and had his best season in 2012. That's not saying much, but, again, when you are playing with Cassel/Quinn in a Daboll directed offense, you don't have that much to work with in the first place.

Bowe/Baldwin/Breaston/McCluster is okay, and you've got fallback guys like Wylie and a guy who I think can be a decent receiver in the right system in Junior Hemingway. The guy is a brick and had really nice hands in college.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9289017)

Skov in the 4th would be nice if we stay 34
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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9289422)

I don't trust our OL. Especially if we let Albert go.

That's a high priority imo

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9289422)

I don't trust our OL. Especially if we let Albert go.

That's a high priority imo

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9289459)

The Chiefs won't allow Albert to leave. There's no way they start the year with Stephenson or a rookie QB and rookie LT.

The offensive line is fine. They need a swing guard that can play center and little else.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9290046)

'13 Baldwin will be a fascinating statement about 'Team-killer' Pioli and the coaching staff he assembled.

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 9290054)

As well as the QBs.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9290057)

But we know that statement already. Utter failure, which is why the regime is new.

The jury is still out on whether or not Baldwin has NFL talent.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9290046)

'13 Baldwin will be a fascinating statement about Pioli and the coaching staff he assembled.

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 9290072)

I thought we already knew the statement about the staff and 'Team-killer' Pioli as well? I thought you were implying that we will see if Baldwin was being held back, which would be by both the staff and the QBs(plus his shortcomings).

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9289480)

I don't see Albert leaving unless he's offered ridiculous level money, and I don't see that happening either.

Albert
Allen
Hudson
Asamoah
Winston

is a solid line, especially if you let it grow as a group. Footwork, blocking schemes, etc. all are a lot easier when you have continuity versus putting in a new guy every year. Stephenson has some talent and the tools, so there's your OT backup.

And you don't need to spend draft picks on interior o-line positions. That's what free agency is for.

Blaize Foltz out of TCU, would be nice as a UDFA.

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9288682)

1) Geno Smith, QB
2) Xavior Rhodes, CB
3a) Stedman Bailey, WR
3b) Shayne Skov, ILB
4) Zac Dysert/EJ Manuel/Landry Jones, QB
5) Zeke Motta, S