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BigOlChiefsfan 10-02-2012 01:42 PM

RE: Double barrel

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forum...=Pritchard%27s

OnTheWarpath15 10-02-2012 01:43 PM

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Mr. Flopnuts 10-02-2012 01:47 PM

Now that I'm a drunk, I'll chime in. Bourbon is my drink of choice. Scotch is reserved for celebrations, and anyone who likes scotch that hasn't tried The Balvenie is really missing out. For the money, it's my favorite. Better than The Macallan IMO and that was my fav until I tried Balvenie.

As far as bourbon goes, Jim Beam is my go to. It's cheap, it's delicious, and it does the job. Jack is delicious and what I drink when I'm mixing. But generally, I drink Beam for sipping and shooting. Buffalo Trace is one I think I'm going to try. In fact, I may pick up a bottle tonight and try it. Knob Creek is another one I haven't tried.

When I feel like spending the money though, nothing beats Makers. Straight up on the rocks, or mixed with Coke. Never, ever shoot Makers though. It'd be a waste. It's delicious.

Chest Rockwell 10-02-2012 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BigOlChiefsfan (Post 8970795)

They seem to be listing it on their website again, I wonder if that means it's back in production? I'll check the labels and see when it was bottled before I crack any. If it's collectible, then I'm not quite so bummed...

Otherwise, that's disappointing. Normally my house bourbons (usually something in the BT/EW Single Barrel/Turkey range) for mixing or giving to the unwashed who come over are cheaper than this. Hopefully it'll make better than average Manhattans and Old Fashioneds.

BigOlChiefsfan 10-02-2012 02:06 PM

The only problem w/collectible bourbon is finding collectors who'll buy your stuff. Taste it and set the rest aside (laying down, to keep the cork wet if there's a cork involved) if it's not your cuppa chai. The way things go, it'll probably be collectible again. Meanwhile, keep your eye peeled for bourbon collectors - that forum - and a few others like it - may not be a bad place to watch. Meanwhile, enjoy that Noah's Mill. One of my faves.

Chest Rockwell 10-02-2012 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigOlChiefsfan (Post 8970863)
The only problem w/collectible bourbon is finding collectors who'll buy your stuff. Taste it and set the rest aside (laying down, to keep the cork wet if there's a cork involved) if it's not your cuppa chai. The way things go, it'll probably be collectible again. Meanwhile, keep your eye peeled for bourbon collectors - that forum - and a few others like it - may not be a bad place to watch. Meanwhile, enjoy that Noah's Mill. One of my faves.

Yup, same with collectible wine. It's just nice to have the option.

Noah's Mill is very good. It's been a nice find, especially for the price and has become one I try to always have around.

Raiderhater 10-02-2012 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 8970809)
Now that I'm a drunk, I'll chime in. Bourbon is my drink of choice. Scotch is reserved for celebrations, and anyone who likes scotch that hasn't tried The Balvenie is really missing out. For the money, it's my favorite. Better than The Macallan IMO and that was my fav until I tried Balvenie.

As far as bourbon goes, Jim Beam is my go to. It's cheap, it's delicious, and it does the job. Jack is delicious and what I drink when I'm mixing. But generally, I drink Beam for sipping and shooting. Buffalo Trace is one I think I'm going to try. In fact, I may pick up a bottle tonight and try it. Knob Creek is another one I haven't tried.

When I feel like spending the money though, nothing beats Makers. Straight up on the rocks, or mixed with Coke. Never, ever shoot Makers though. It'd be a waste. It's delicious.

Actually the waste would be mixing the Maker's with Coke. Coke kills the flavor of whiskey. If I am drinking a whiskey and Coke it is because the whiskey is is shitty. If you need a mixer for a good whiskey, just use a splash of 7. Takes the edge off and still allows you to get the flavor of the spirit in hand.

kcpasco 10-02-2012 03:04 PM

Pendleton is good stuff if anyone here has had it.

Reaper16 10-02-2012 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chest Rockwell (Post 8970024)
This. Rare Breed is one of the most drinkable uncuts I've had. Drink it neat and it doesn't feel like the proof it is IMO.

Buffalo Trace is pretty good for the price point, but like someone else pointed out I'd rather pay a couple extra bucks and get the Evan Williams single barrel.

I am a big fan of a couple of BT's higher end things like Blanton's and George T. Stagg. Careful with that last one, it normally clocks in around 140 proof. It's drinkable at that, but really intense. I like to cut it down to about 115-120 which is where I feel like it shows best.

Others I've had recently that stood out: Noah's Mill is very good; Black Maple Hill is very good as well; Pappy Van 23 was good, but not a great value IMO.

I also like Rye quite a bit; a couple of those I've had recently that I thought were really good were Old Potrero and Copper Fox.

I'm spoiled...I live close to Jack Rose and get over there about once a week. I can try stuff by the glass there I'll never be able to find (they have 5 different Mortlachs FFS) or afford by the bottle. Their list is 36 pages long (I'd estimate they have about 1200 whisk(e)ys) and they have a rotating bourbon on tap.

The place is heaven. There's probably 10-15 ft more bar out of frame to the right.

http://jackrosediningsaloon.com/wp-c...ing-saloon.jpg

That place looks like a dream.

Also, I just love it whenever Chest Rockwell posts. It's a rare treat to see my all-time favorite ChiefsPlanet avatar.

The Poz 10-02-2012 06:53 PM

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Chest Rockwell 10-03-2012 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8971406)
That place looks like a dream.

Also, I just love it whenever Chest Rockwell posts. It's a rare treat to see my all-time favorite ChiefsPlanet avatar.

Stop it, I'm gonna blush.

Anyone in this thread can consider this a standing offer: if you're ever in DC and have time, let me know and I'm happy to get you to Jack Rose and/or a few other spots in town that do whiskey/cocktails right.

R8RFAN 10-03-2012 11:52 AM

Makers Mark

demonhero 10-03-2012 12:11 PM

Jim Beam red stag variations on work days, and buffalo trace on non-work days. :drool:

InChiefsHeaven 10-03-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by demonhero (Post 8973381)
Jim Beam red stag variations on work days, and buffalo trace on non-work days. :drool:

No fruit in bourbon...heh. The Red Stag tastes like cough syrup to me.

Rasputin 10-03-2012 12:15 PM

Hi, my name is KC and I'm a Scotchaholic.

demonhero 10-03-2012 12:34 PM

I used to down NyQuil, so that's probably why I have a fixation with it.

Raiderhater 10-03-2012 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 8973386)
No fruit in bourbon...heh. The Red Stag tastes like cough syrup to me.

Unless it is an old fashioned.

Chest Rockwell 10-04-2012 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 8974246)
Unless it is an old fashioned.

Not in a proper old fashioned. Unless you count a bit of lemon rind as fruit.

InChiefsHeaven 10-04-2012 10:31 AM

I'll bite...wtf is an old fashioned? Always learning new stuff...

Chest Rockwell 10-04-2012 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 8976466)
I'll bite...wtf is an old fashioned? Always learning new stuff...

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Just ignore that it's Rachel Maddow. I like to flame the lemon rind on mine.

There are variations where people muddle an orange slice and a maraschino cherry with the sugar, soda and Angostura. I think it hides the whiskey too much.

Also, if you go to a bar where they make it with sour mix and grenadine it is your duty as a proper gentleman to punch the bartender square in the suckhole before you make it a teaching opportunity.

NewChief 10-04-2012 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 8976466)
I'll bite...wtf is an old fashioned? Always learning new stuff...

Muddle sugar and bitters in bottom of glass. Add rocks. Pour whiskey. Add a twist of citrus. Garnish with lemon/orange peel and cherry.

InChiefsHeaven 10-04-2012 10:50 AM

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Just ignore that it's Rachel Maddow. I like to flame the lemon rind on mine.

There are variations where people muddle an orange slice and a maraschino cherry with the sugar, soda and Angostura. I think it hides the whiskey too much.

Also, if you go to a bar where they make it with sour mix and grenadine it is your duty as a proper gentleman to punch the bartender square in the suckhole before you make it a teaching opportunity.

I hate her guts, but that does look like an interesting drink...I'll have to get that one on this weekend!

Chest Rockwell 10-04-2012 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 8976497)
I hate her guts, but that does look like an interesting drink...I'll have to get that one on this weekend!

It's one of my favorite whiskey cocktails, but I'm also pretty partial to Manhattans and Sazeracs too. Give those a shot sometime if you're looking for something new to try.

Raiderhater 10-04-2012 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chest Rockwell (Post 8976419)
Not in a proper old fashioned. Unless you count a bit of lemon rind as fruit.

Yes I do (when it comes to bourbon anyway).

Vegas_Dave 10-04-2012 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 8973397)
Hi, my name is KC and I'm a Scotchaholic.

Me too... however, I really like 4 Roses Small Batch bourbon. REALLY tasty for a scotch drinker.

Raiderhater 10-04-2012 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Chest Rockwell (Post 8976505)
It's one of my favorite whiskey cocktails, but I'm also pretty partial to Manhattans and Sazeracs too. Give those a shot sometime if you're looking for something new to try.

CANNOT forget the mint julep. One of my all time favorite cocktails. Simply sublime.

Here is a great video I came across this past summer on the making of a mint julep. The bartender Chris is also some what of a historian of bartending and drinks. Well worth the watch if you enjoy the art.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJV-O1e10z8

HonestChieffan 10-04-2012 11:59 AM

Im a die hard fan of Blantons but for a great price and quality, Evan Williams Single Barrel is darn excellent

Raiderhater 10-04-2012 11:59 AM

And here are his videos for the old fashioned and the sazerac.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEr7ym4-r5I


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfhaxHYb46E

Bewbies 10-04-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 8976673)

There's a place in Atlanta here called Prohibition that makes these and they are wonderful. If you've never had one you definitely need to try it.

HonestChieffan 10-04-2012 09:06 PM

neat or ice unless its cheap stuff

Rausch 10-04-2012 09:08 PM

Fatzod made me a snob.

Chilled glass, NO ICE, good stuff or none at all...

Bewbies 10-04-2012 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8977938)
Fatzod made me a snob.

Chilled glass, NO ICE, good stuff or none at all...

Boom. Ice mutes all the flavors. I like a little splash of water sometimes, but never ice. :doh!:

cdcox 10-04-2012 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chest Rockwell (Post 8976470)

There are variations where people muddle an orange slice and a maraschino cherry with the sugar, soda and Angostura. I think it hides the whiskey too much.

This is how I make 'em except with Rye instead of whiskey.

Rausch 10-04-2012 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 8977942)
I like a little splash of water sometimes, but never ice. :doh!:

:spock:

Bewbies 10-04-2012 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8977989)
:spock:

Never heard of this? Probably more common with scotch...

Rausch 10-04-2012 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 8978041)
Never heard of this? Probably more common with scotch...

NEVER dilute good scotch with water...

Reaper16 10-04-2012 10:26 PM

Good job by raiderhader to link the New Orleans Best Cocktails video series. That's my favorite cocktail web series out there.

Also, a couple of drops of water can really help some bourbons and whiskeys open up, in my experience.

Rausch 10-04-2012 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8978140)
Good job by raiderhader to link the New Orleans Best Cocktails video series. That's my favorite cocktail web series out there.

Also, a couple of drops of water can really help some bourbons and whiskeys open up, in my experience.

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Reaper16 10-04-2012 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8978150)

I'm serious and literal when I say "drops." A tiny amount of water makes a nice impact. I wouldn't recommend a drop or two of water for all whiskeys though. But some are made more expressive by virtue of a drop or two.

Bewbies 10-04-2012 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8978140)
Good job by raiderhader to link the New Orleans Best Cocktails video series. That's my favorite cocktail web series out there.

Also, a couple of drops of water can really help some bourbons and whiskeys open up, in my experience.

Yes. Makers Mark, especially when cold, turns almost into caramel with a few drops of water.

rtmike 10-05-2012 01:43 AM

It took me a bit to really get into the taste. But once I started it was all I drank until I moved up here to find it didn't make it up here.

No hangovers' & if the ice melted just add more. W.L. Weller bourbon & water. Good shit. Once I moved up here to the Northwest, it was back to horse piss Budweiser.

I see there's several different colored labels nowadays. This (pictured) is all I ever remember drinking when I decided to partake in such activities
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Weller & Fisher sunflower seeds, 2 of my favorite western Kansas staples.

I used to be a professional sunflower seed connoisseur. I could look at a bag of seeds & tell you if they were a good tasting bag or not.

Bummed that the sunflower seeds don't make it up here. When we used to go back & visit I'd load up a box with several pounds to ship back home.




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Molitoth 10-05-2012 07:48 AM

Thanks for this thread! I'm just getting into Scotch and Bourbons.

So far my Cab has: Makers Mark, The Glenlivit Single Malt, Red Label

BigOlChiefsfan 10-05-2012 09:35 AM

Some of my 'whiskey' links - blogs, discussion groups, etc...for folks that want to know more whusk lore:

http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/
http://chuckcowdery.blogspot.com/
http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/forum.php
http://www.bourbonenthusiast.com/for...43c72c80a8e838
http://www.maltadvocate.com/whisky_reviews.asp?Search=Y

Finally - an old Scottish recipe for Athol Brose - not exactly a 'cocktail' but a traditional oats, honey & Scotch Whiskey combo worth trying as the weather cools: http://www.rampantscotland.com/recip...cipe_brose.htm

Raiderhater 10-05-2012 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BigOlChiefsfan (Post 8978876)
Some of my 'whiskey' links - blogs, discussion groups, etc...for folks that want to know more whusk lore:

http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/
http://chuckcowdery.blogspot.com/
http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/forum.php
http://www.bourbonenthusiast.com/for...43c72c80a8e838
http://www.maltadvocate.com/whisky_reviews.asp?Search=Y

Finally - an old Scottish recipe for Athol Brose - not exactly a 'cocktail' but a traditional oats & Scotch Whiskey combo worth trying as the weather cools: http://www.rampantscotland.com/recip...cipe_brose.htm


That Athol Brose recipe has piqued my interest....

BigOlChiefsfan 10-05-2012 12:02 PM

This is the Athol Brose recipe I first learned - The 'Great Beast' referred to below was one of my online amigos years ago. A wine chemist/weight lifter and wildman:


If you've got a little scotch in the cupboard, try making Athol Brose. This recipe comes from someone named "The Great Beast" at Salon magazine's Table Talk.

Kitt's note: It really is best if made several hours ahead of time at least. I found it a little rich on its own, so I used it as a topping for fresh, sliced strawberries (puree a handful of the berries with a couple spoons of powdered sugar and mix them back in to sweeten the fruit a little.) Reserve some slices for garnish, along with fresh mint leaves. If you have room in your fridge, you can assemble this dessert ahead of time. If you have parfait glasses, you could do more layering -- berries, cream, berries, cream -- for an excellent effect.

You'll need:

4 tablespoons honey
4 tablespoons scotch whisky
2 tablespoons oatmeal
1/2 pint heavy cream

Gently heat honey and whisky, stirring to dissolve. Set aside to cool. Toast oatmeal in a dry frying pan until nutty and brown. Whip the cream until thick. Sprinkle in all but two teaspoons of oatmeal (reserve for topping) and fold in with the honey mixture. Spoon into ramekins or tumblers, sprinkle with remaining oatmeal, and chill for two hours.

It sounds dead simple, but it's elegant and delicious.

Chest Rockwell 10-12-2012 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BigOlChiefsfan (Post 8970795)

Following up on this, received it last weekend and have given it a couple of tastings.

It's better than I expected from the forum posts. Actually quite a bit better. Probably not worthy of it's price point, but a very interesting bourbon. Almost has a subtle Irish whiskey nose/flavor to it...At a blind tasting I might initially put it on being an Irish (much the same way that to me Redbreast almost seems to have subtle bourbon characteristics to it).

Overall, I wouldn't say I like it much more than the bourbons mentioned on this thread as being a good value, but it's definitely unique. Probably wouldn't buy it again unless I could get it cheaper, but don't regret having it.

Fire Me Boy! 10-12-2012 02:03 PM

I'm not a big bourbon drinker, but I picked up a bottle of Rowan's Creek Small Batch while in Louisville recently. Supposed to be really good stuff.

http://imageshack.us/a/img545/420/rowanscreek1.jpg

noa 10-12-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 9005594)
I'm not a big bourbon drinker, but I picked up a bottle of Rowan's Creek Small Batch while in Louisville recently. Supposed to be really good stuff.

http://imageshack.us/a/img545/420/rowanscreek1.jpg

That's a good one, and another bourbon that's relatively easy on the wallet. Definitely good for the price point.
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HonestChieffan 10-12-2012 02:50 PM

I scored a bottle of Templtons Rye. Had never seen it in Mo till yesterday. Awesome good stuff

The Poz 10-12-2012 03:08 PM

This place just opened right beside my office. I smell trouble.
Check out the menu.

http://www.spirithousetoronto.com/index/spirits

The Poz 10-14-2012 02:22 PM

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Where's my glass?

InChiefsHeaven 10-14-2012 07:49 PM

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Where's my glass?

Mine's full. Has to be with this shit season of Chiefs "Football"...Drink up fellas! It's gonna be a long season...

Cheers!

http://www.thewhiskyambassador.com/w...urbon-2000.jpg

HonestChieffan 10-14-2012 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 9014452)
Mine's full. Has to be with this shit season of Chiefs "Football"...Drink up fellas! It's gonna be a long season...

Cheers!

http://www.thewhiskyambassador.com/w...urbon-2000.jpg

Good stuff for under $25

NewChief 10-14-2012 08:50 PM

Got a bottle of Elijah Craig because it seemed a good value. It was.

Raiderhater 10-15-2012 06:47 PM

Trying something new I hadn't seen before, Johnny Drum Private Stock. Not terribly expensive, $30 range. But more than I should have paid for it. Not a big fan. Turns out I didn't read the label close enough, it is charcoal filtered. And that is the number 1 reason I don't like Jack.

I hate having to mix coke with my whiskey. :cuss:

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BlackHelicopters 10-15-2012 06:50 PM

Any and all alcohol has taken on added importance during this season. Drink up!

MahiMike 10-15-2012 07:03 PM

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Here's my go to. $20. Not bourbon, but whiskey.

veist 10-15-2012 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Vegas (Post 8969993)
I'm telling you you gotta try Elijah Craig 18 year old bourbon. Oldest single barrel bourbon in the world and only $55 a bottle. I throw a lemon wedge in with most of my bourbons too. Pretty tasty.

I love the Elijah Craig too!

Reerun_KC 10-15-2012 07:17 PM

Man I am obsessed with Jim beam black.

Raiderhater 10-15-2012 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 9017780)
Man I am obsessed with Jim beam black.


Eh, it's drinkable but, I can think of a whole host of other fairly inexpensive bourbons I'd rather sip on.

Since I have nothing in the house but Louisburg apple cider to mix with, I think I am just going to polish off the last little bit of my Weller Special Reserve. And then go from there.

Raiderhater 10-15-2012 07:30 PM

Oooh, I have a few snorts of Wooford Reserve as well... decisions decisions.....

Reerun_KC 10-15-2012 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 9017844)
Oooh, I have a few snorts of Wooford Reserve as well... decisions decisions.....

We get an unlimited supply of that when we go to Vegas. I love being a pilot.

Raiderhater 10-15-2012 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 9017914)
We get an unlimited supply of that when we go to Vegas. I love being a pilot.


Pretty damned good bourbon.

Reerun_KC 10-15-2012 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 9017952)
Pretty damned good bourbon.

I don't remember a lot of nights.and.weekends in Vegas because of Wilford

SAUTO 10-15-2012 07:53 PM

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I don't remember a lot of nights.and.weekends in Vegas because of Wilford

What. Is.up.with.all.the.periods.?
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Reerun_KC 10-15-2012 07:55 PM

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What. Is.up.with.all.the.periods.?
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Android phone and pudgy fingers. Damn period button is right next to space bar.

Sorry.

Raiderhater 10-15-2012 08:21 PM

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I don't remember a lot of nights.and.weekends in Vegas because of Wilford


Understandable.

Reerun_KC 10-15-2012 08:28 PM

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Understandable.

We take the bottle with us to the golf course as well. Captain and I will g through 3 bottles on a 4 day trip.

Raiderhater 10-15-2012 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 9018242)
We take the bottle with us to the golf course as well. Captain and I will g through 3 bottles on a 4 day trip.

Drinking is the only reason to play golf.

headsnap 01-10-2013 03:37 PM

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We are fans of Maker's though, the Samuels are big supporters of the dePaul school where my youngest goes... for the last 3 years we have attended the deParty for dePaul auction/silent auction fundraiser, every year we put bids on the dinner at the Samuels house that includes tastings and bottle dippings... this year's is in about 3 weeks, we are going to push harder to win the dinner!

we got the Golden Ticket and the night is tonight!!

Tasting & etc. at the Sameuls house!

A cool thing that I didn't realize is that the Sameuls' are pretty much our neighbors... about 2 miles as the crow flies from our house!

should be a good time...



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Strongside 01-10-2013 03:58 PM

Any KC resident bourbon drinkers should head to the Reiger Hotel and try the 'Pendergast'. Great bourbon cocktail by Ryan Maybee.

That place and Manifesto are standbys if you are into bourbon, or love a good cocktail...a real cocktail.

NewChief 01-10-2013 04:01 PM

I've really been enjoying the Evan Williams 1783 for the price. Damn is it cheap, and it's very drinkable (for me) over rocks.

QuikSsurfer 01-10-2013 04:07 PM

No fruit in bourbon?? Pssshhhh whatever...

New Fashioned is my go-to drink. (muddled orange and cherry)

NewChief 01-10-2013 04:10 PM

I'm really into the sazerac cocktail lately as well, which I know is rye, not bourbon. Those things are delicious, though. Really in my flavor profile.

InChiefsHeaven 01-10-2013 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 9303642)
I've really been enjoying the Evan Williams 1783 for the price. Damn is it cheap, and it's very drinkable (for me) over rocks.

Up the Evans! My "cheap" bourbon of choice. Very good stuff, surprisingly.

Bewbies 01-10-2013 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 9303660)
I'm really into the sazerac cocktail lately as well, which I know is rye, not bourbon. Those things are delicious, though. Really in my flavor profile.

I love these, you can make them with Buffalo Trace (according to the company that makes both that and Sazerac Rye...

Place I go to get those had some Pappy Van Winkle in last time I was there, good God almighty that's bourbon perfected...

BigOlChiefsfan 01-11-2013 02:22 AM

Mr. Van Winkle released some really old rye a about 10 years ago, before he merged with the Sazerac group (New Orleans and Kentucky). That Van Winkle 16 yr old rye is the best stuff for making a Sazerac I've ever found. Most of the time I just use Old Overholt - it's cheap but 'mild' tasting and plenty tasty enough once you 'flavor it up' making a Sazerac or a rye Manhattan. Wild Turkey 101 rye is very nice, too. Been around a long time. A lot of the other current 'hot' rye whiskey - I'll take a pass for now. It's trendy, it's all coming from the same distillery over in Indiana, slapping on different labels and charging what the market will bear. The market can bear elsewhere w/my wallet involved.

Chest Rockwell 01-11-2013 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BigOlChiefsfan (Post 9304818)
Mr. Van Winkle released some really old rye a about 10 years ago, before he merged with the Sazerac group (New Orleans and Kentucky). That Van Winkle 16 yr old rye is the best stuff for making a Sazerac I've ever found. Most of the time I just use Old Overholt - it's cheap but 'mild' tasting and plenty tasty enough once you 'flavor it up' making a Sazerac or a rye Manhattan. Wild Turkey 101 rye is very nice, too. Been around a long time. A lot of the other current 'hot' rye whiskey - I'll take a pass for now. It's trendy, it's all coming from the same distillery over in Indiana, slapping on different labels and charging what the market will bear. The market can bear elsewhere w/my wallet involved.

The market is getting ridiculous. I've seen several different whiskeys double in price at bars here and they still can't keep them in stock. Pappy Van 23 has gone from $16 to $32 per ounce in my go to bar, and I'm guessing it's going to continue to rise because too many people here evidently have more money than sense. I've tasted far too many good whiskeys in the $3-8 an ounce price range lately to put up with that nonsense.

otherstar 01-11-2013 09:31 AM

I'm more of a single-malt guy, but my liquor cabinet always has a bottle of George Dickel #12 in it (best value bourbon in my book). I also like Jim Beam and Maker's Mark. I LOVE a good Manhattan.

Bewbies 01-11-2013 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chest Rockwell (Post 9304925)
The market is getting ridiculous. I've seen several different whiskeys double in price at bars here and they still can't keep them in stock. Pappy Van 23 has gone from $16 to $32 per ounce in my go to bar, and I'm guessing it's going to continue to rise because too many people here evidently have more money than sense. I've tasted far too many good whiskeys in the $3-8 an ounce price range lately to put up with that nonsense.

The place I was at the 15 yr(?) was $24 for a shot. No thanks, but for free I'm all over it!


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