Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 16866197)

We have to improve at DT. What do we do here?

Free Agent DTs
Shelby Harris SEA 31 years old
Derrick Nnadi KC 26 years old

I think we have to attack this with the draft.

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 16866171)

Todd Pinkston knows shit all about RB

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16866206)

Harris would be intriguing, but we wouldn't offer him much in terms of compensation.

I think McKinnon comes back on a smaller deal. It sucks for him not getting "paid", but such is the life of an NFL RB.

Originally Posted by oldman (Post 16866289)

I don't think you can get him on a much smaller deal. He made $1.035M salary and $152.5K on a roster bonus. I think the minimum is a little over $1.1M.

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 16866171)

Todd pinkston knows shit all about RB

Originally Posted by oldman (Post 16866465)

The whole Jones extension silence is puzzling. It sounds like it's a done deal and Chris is a happy camper. You'd think, under normal circumstances, we would have heard something about the deal and how much money was saved. But we all know Veach isn't a normal guy, so it may be a way to bargain down the asking price of a couple of players.

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 16866197)

We have to improve at DT. What do we do here?

Free Agent DTs
Shelby Harris SEA 31 years old
Derrick Nnadi KC 26 years old

I think we have to attack this with the draft.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16866712)

Um, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but we don't necessarily have to get better at DT. We just can't fall back.

Check it out: is there a team in the AFC-W that boasts a top-5 running game? Maaaaaybe LVR with Josh Jacobs, but they haven't even been using him that way under McD.

Is there a legit AFC champion contender with a top-5 running game? BUF, no. CIN, no. JAX? Possible, but Doug Pederson isn't known for running the crap out of the ball either.

In the NFC all I see is either SF or PHI. And our defense handled both their run games very well with the likes of Nnadi, Saunders, Turk and Williams at DT.

I don't think KC necessarily has to get better with their DTs in 2023, just can't be worse. Am I crazy?

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 16866744)

To clarify my earlier defensive tackle statement. I was not stating that defensive tackles have to be better from 2022’s roster. I am saying we have to be better than what we currently have on roster right now. We have four DTs and two of them were signed on Futures contracts. Not counting Chris Jones, that is not a strong defensive tackle lineup.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16866756)

gotcha. My misunderstanding. And yeah, we do need to get at least one more DT from somewhere. Man, I wish we'd found a way to keep Khalen. I liked that guy.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16866768)

can we get a list without all the currently rostered players?

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 16865293)

A list of players and changes with KC's roster so far.

QB (3) - Patrick Mahomes, Shane Buechele, and Chris Oladokun
Retired – Chad Henne
RB/FB (3) - Isiah Pacheco, Clyde Edwards-Helaire, and La’Mical Perine,
FA – Jerick McKinnon, Michael Burton (signed with Broncos), and Ronald Jones
WR (9) - Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Skyy Moore, Kadarius Toney. Justyn Ross, John Ross, Ty Fryfogle, Cornell Powell, Ihmir Smith-Marsette, and Jerrion Ealy.
FA - JuJu Smith-Schuster (signed with Patriots), Justin Watson, Mecole Hardman, and Marcus Kemp,
TE (5) - Travis Kelce, Noah Gray, Kendall Blanton, Matt Bushman, and Jody Fortson ERFA
FA - Blake Bell
OL (10) - Creed Humphrey, Lucas Niang, Trey Smith, Joe Thuney, Darian Kennard, Mike Caliendo, Austin Reiter, Jawaan Taylor (signed from Jaquars, Nick Allegretti (re-signed from Chiefs), and Prince Tega Wanogho ERFA
FA - Orlando Brown Jr (signed with Bengals) and Andrew Wylie (signed with Commanders)
DE (5) - George Karlaftis, Charles Omenihu (signed from 49ers), Mike Danna, Malik Herring, and Joshua Kaindoh
FA – Frank Clark (Released), Carlos Dunlap
DT (4) - Chris Jones, Tershawn Wharton, Daniel Wise, and Danny Shelton
FA – Khalen Saunders (signed with Saints), Derrick Nnadi, Brandon Williams
LB (6) - Nick Bolton, Willie Gay Jr, Leo Chanel, Drue Tranquill (signed from Chargers), Jack Cochrane, and Cole Christiansen
FA – Darius Harris not tendered
CB (6) - L'Jarius Sneed, Trent McDuffie, Joshua Williams, Jaylen Watson. Decaprio Bootle, and Nazeeh Johnson
S (3) - Justin Reid, Bryan Cook, and Mike Edwards (signed from Buccaneers)
FA - Juan Thornhill (signed with Browns) and Deon Bush
ST (3) – K Harrison Butker, P Tommy Townsend RFA tendered, and LS James Winchester

Probably somebody I forgot

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 16865375)

List of Kansas City Chiefs Coaching Changes

Erc Bieniemy - Offensive Coordinator signed with Commanders as OC.
Matt Nagy - Offensive Coordinator. Previously Senior offensive assistant and Quarterbacks.
Joe Bleymaier - Pass Game Coordinator. Previously Wide Receivers Coach
Barry Rubin - Head Strength and Conditioning Coach retired.
Ryan Reynolds - Head Strength and Conditioning / Director of Sports Science. Previously Assistant Strength and Conditioning.
Nick Cassetta - Asst. Strength and Conditioning. Previously Strength and Conditioning at NMSU.
Greg Lewis - Running Backs signed with Ravens as Wide Receiver Coach.
Todd Pinkston - Running backs. Previously Wide Receivers at Austin Peay.
Connor Embree - Wide receivers. Previously Offensive quality control.
Porter Ellett - Assistant Running Backs. Previously Offensive quality control.
David Girardi – Quarterbacks. Previously Pass Game Analyst / Assistant QBs.
Spencer Reid - Assistant Strength and Conditioning. Previously Assistant Strength and Conditioning at BYU.
Kevin Saxton - Offensive Assistant. Previously Co-OC/QBs at Benedict College.
Dan Williams - Offensive quality control/Assistant Quarterbacks. Previously Offensive assistant.

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 16866785)

It would have been nice to be able to keep Khalen Saunders at a team friendly contract.

The Saints did the voidable year contract to be able to pay more and kick the can down the road again as-far-as Cap dollars. It is a 3-year playing contract with an additional 3 voidable years added on. So far Brett Veach has not wanted to play that game. Saints have to do that to keep a team on the field.

Something else to consider about a Khalen Saunders long term contract. Saunders played for KC for four seasons and this year was his only season he did not miss games. In 2020 he played 3 games. In 2021 he played 7 games.