Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14408523)

He didn't practice hard, when he practiced at all. He didn't lead by example. Sat on the sideline, super quiet. Talked shit on Chiefs management from time to time, felt he didn't owe much to the organization that made him a multi-millionaire before age 30. He just wasn't a real leader on the defense. Between Houston and his attitude and Berry and his Haglund's, we had like $45m worth of players who should've been leading the defense either on the sideline pretending to coach, or simply muttering to anyone who'd listen about how they don't have to practice...

Facts.

Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 14408524)

I remember reading a quote that mentioned Justin Hamilton having to get on Houston because it looked like he was dogging it vs the Ravens. I don't necessarily know about attitude, but his effort level wasn't all there last year.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14408532)

You completely misinterpreted that quote.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14408531)

Lmao those are things you just made up. Who said he didn't practice hard?

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14408541)

This. So tired of people using that quote as a major indictment of the guy.

He absolutely was a leader on that defense and you could absolutely see that on the sidelines.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14408543)

A lot of people. I don't care what you think. Don't believe me. You can believe he was the best player on one of the worst defenses ever, and you might even be right.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14408548)

Who are these a lot of people? Link?

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14295182)

Houston the highest paid player on the team, who was a shell of his former self due to injuries and attitude- replaced by Frank Clark, a high intensity, defensive player of the year candidate, who wore a Van Halen / Judas Preist shirt when he touched down in KC.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14295064)

It was most apparent in his run defense.

For all the shit that Ford took as a run defender, he was at least an outstanding pursuit defender against the run. Houston, OTOH, jaked it BADLY last year in run defense.

You can flip a switch as a pass rusher and give effort when you want to. As a run defender, you're either engaged every down or you're ineffective. Last season Houston was clearly ineffective.

That raises some obvious red flags with regards to effort and intensity.

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14295046)

Houston can say whatever excuse he wants for joining those dickwads, the fact is, he dogged it a lot last year. Two out of every three plays he gave less than 100%. We needed more than just the occasional sack from him. The defense was awful and Houston was part of that equation. Then after giving a half-ass effort year, he refused to take a pay cut or help the team cap-wise in any way. Have fun losing to the Chiefs next year in the Playoffs and watching your old team move on. Houston has been paid like the best defensive player in the NFL for years now, but was not even close to the player he was. Good riddance.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14408557)

People I've spoken with.

It's been all over this board, too - here's just one thread with several comments on the first page (I'll link it, even though your reading comprehension is atrocious) :

https://work.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=14295068

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14408559)

Holy shit you seriously linked me to posts on here to prove how Houston was lazy in practice ROFL ROFL ROFL Wow.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14408546)

I wasn't even considering that quote...more the rumblings from inside the buidling in regards to his attitude towards the organization itself.

Cancerous, and it spread throughout the defense. A defense that should have been better than they were.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 14408588)

LOL Rabble is an idiot. I'm not sure he's ever had a valid stance in any debate.

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 14408594)

I didn't think getting a sack on Tom Brady was too much to ask in the biggest game to get to the Super Bowl.