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dj56dt58 01-21-2019 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14061342)
I'm going to be honest, I think having guys like Dee Ford and Chris Jones as main players is a serious problem.

Especially more than 1, they are both 1 trick ponies that can't do anything but pass rush because either that's all they are or all they care about. Dee Ford has no awareness to drop into a coverage, he sucks at run D...

These are not the type of guys that should be cornerstones unless you want a 32 D.
100% truth in this post

Mecca 01-21-2019 03:34 PM
It's time to just admit they need to start over from the DC to everyone else.

Houston, Ford, Berry, Bailey, time to start over.

FAX 01-21-2019 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dj56dt58 (Post 14061337)
GTFO

1. He cost us a trip to the Superbowl

2. This scheme doesn't work, Sutton needs to go and someone with a different scheme needs to come in. Ford sucks against the run, we need more 4 man fronts and he doesnt fit in
Uh ... Ford has played much better against the run this year. Sure looks that way to me. Granted, I haven't seen any "advanced stats" ... just using my one good eye.

As for coverage, he shouldn't be doing much of that anyhow. Maybe the RB to the flat from time-to-time ... but that's not his game. Nor should it be, IMO.

FAX

FAX 01-21-2019 03:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14061342)
I'm going to be honest, I think having guys like Dee Ford and Chris Jones as main players is a serious problem.

Especially more than 1, they are both 1 trick ponies that can't do anything but pass rush because either that's all they are or all they care about. Dee Ford has no awareness to drop into a coverage, he sucks at run D...

These are not the type of guys that should be cornerstones unless you want a 32 D.
We're running out of stones, my friend.

FAX

Mecca 01-21-2019 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14061369)
We're running out of stones, my friend.

FAX
In reality we have no cornerstones, so we shouldn't be paying any of them like they are.

Chris Jones and Kendall Fuller are good players but they are complimentary guys. No one on this defense is a stud that makes it go.

Hammock Parties 01-21-2019 03:37 PM
Houston is about done. Elite OL swallow him up.

Pay Ford, see if you can develop Speaks and make him lose 20 pounds, draft another pass rusher.

Bye Justin, it was fun.

Mecca 01-21-2019 03:38 PM
This team has a ton of money wrapped up in the LB position also, for the money that is in our LB position you'd think we had the second coming of the Saints LB's when it was Swilling, Mills and Jackson.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 01-21-2019 03:38 PM
Houston did have 1 pressure against Brady that made him throw it incomplete. What did Ford do? He did nothing! Absolutely nothing last game

FringeNC 01-21-2019 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14061374)
Houston is about done. Elite OL swallow him up.

Pay Ford, see if you can develop Speaks and make him lose 20 pounds, draft another pass rusher.

Bye Justin, it was fun.
No way he stays at his current ridiculous cap number, so unless he renegotiates there's no chance he's here.

The Franchise 01-21-2019 03:39 PM
Switch to a 4-3. You’re able to bring pressure with your front four and get LBs that can cover.

comochiefsfan 01-21-2019 03:40 PM
He made a killer mistake last night but we can't let emotion cloud common sense.

Pass rushers are very important in this league and Dee is a really good one. It's a no brainer to tag him and bring him back next season.

dirk digler 01-21-2019 03:40 PM
No thanks

Donger 01-21-2019 03:41 PM
Huh. It will be interesting see where things line up.

FAX 01-21-2019 03:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14061372)
In reality we have no cornerstones, so we shouldn't be paying any of them like they are.

Chris Jones and Kendall Fuller are good players but they are complimentary guys. No one on this defense is a stud that makes it go.
Preacher. Choir.

I've been saying that for awhile, now.

The unfortunate fact is that we have little upon which to build [Insert FAX bitching about Dorsey here] due to our existing contractual obligations and the lack of developmental depth.

Fire everybody isn't a strategy.

FAX

Donger 01-21-2019 03:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14061372)
Chris Jones and Kendall Fuller are good players but they are complimentary guys.
So they say nice things?


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