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chiefzilla1501 11-21-2023 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17236539)
Disagree on Toney usage.

He looked really good last season when they used him as an actual WR. I don't understand what they're doing with him now, they barely use him at all.

I think they need to use him more but they moved around a lot which I think is really good use for him. They see him as more a Curtis Samuel role than a terry mclaurin and I get that. I’m not sure he looked great as a downfield option last year, or if it was just overgeneralizing off a small sample size

OKchiefs 11-21-2023 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17236542)
Depends on why they're doing what they're doing.

I know in some people's minds (not OP), they're now down a path where they're far more likely to continue losing until something major happens (or they win again).... but, if they're saving guys for the playoffs with the rotation, they have a pretty decent chance of winning out while not changing that strategy.

Even then, I'd expect they'll shorten the rotation soon-ish... they used one game as a warmup last year and seems like they may need 2 or 3 this year
They're already making some of those adjustments, like getting Toney more touches and CEH far fewer the past few weeks.

WR snaps and rotation was same last night as it’s been all year, for the most part. Nobody got more than 60% or so of snaps.

ChiTown 11-21-2023 07:15 AM

Honestly though, this is mostly an execution issue. Catch the ****ing ball - especially a dime thrown to you for a TD. Don’t fumble a reception in the Redzone. Don’t throw a horrible interception to an open receiver in the end zone. I mean, truly, if we don’t do one of those things, we most likely win this game. Problem is, we did ALL of them, and it’s a bit of a reoccurring theme with this O.

It’s crazy to think what our record would be if we didn’t have a T-5 Defense.

Chris Meck 11-21-2023 07:16 AM

The question in the OP was:

What would YOU do?

Not what do you think Andy is going to do.

Clark Hunt is impressed with your football mind, he's been watching your CP posts. He just put you in charge.

Sassy Squatch 11-21-2023 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17236555)
The question in the OP was:

What would YOU do?

Not what do you think Andy is going to do.

Clark Hunt is impressed with your football mind, he's been watching your CP posts. He just put you in charge.

Do coaching staff changes count? Because I'm getting Nagy and that putz WR coach the **** out. 3 straight games now we've been shut out in the second. Whatever Nagy is bringing to the room sure isn't a positive.

Jewish Rabbi 11-21-2023 07:20 AM

Fire the catching coach

chiefzilla1501 11-21-2023 07:21 AM

Saw on Twitter that rookies immediately after the bye week tend to have huge breakouts. But we didn’t really ever try to work him into the gameplan except for 1 drive. If we’re truly saving our best for the playoffs then let’s test him on the sidelines. Give him some jumpballs and let’s give him the experience on a wide range of catches.

ChiTown 11-21-2023 07:22 AM

What slays me, is the lack of use for Rashee Rice. That guy is getter better and better IMO with his route running and run after catch. He was targeted 5 times yesterday. He’d be getting 8+ in my offense, especially on 3rd downs. J Watson had ELEVEN ducking targets last night. ELEVEN. He caught 5…

Chiefnj2 11-21-2023 07:22 AM

This team isn't all that different from past teams. KC made a living out of come from behind wins and fans got spoiled thinking it can happen all the time. Some bad luck this year with drops in key moments. MVS and Moore catch those game ending balls and this is no different from other years.

Get the WR's in front of the jugs for an extra 100 balls at the beginning and end of practice.

Sassy Squatch 11-21-2023 07:23 AM

Let's completely abandon what's been working and just start throwing deep to reeruns that can't catch. It hasn't worked the past 2 games but **** it, go again. Our running game has been gashing them all game. Let's run twice the entire 4th quarter.

Bearcat 11-21-2023 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17236555)
The question in the OP was:

What would YOU do?

Not what do you think Andy is going to do.

Clark Hunt is impressed with your football mind, he's been watching your CP posts. He just put you in charge.

I'd personally panic, check CP, sign every broke dick FA WR this week that I could while stress eating In-A-Tub and watching the 2021-22 Divisional Round game over and over.

chiefzilla1501 11-21-2023 07:25 AM

Also the reason I bring up Toney is… not that I subscribe to holding things back until the playoffs. But that to me felt like a teaser for what they may eventually do with him. I think in crunch time you’ll see Toney move around a LOT on the field. We saw a lot more life in this offense yesterday when we got really creative with pre snap

FlaChief58 11-21-2023 07:25 AM

I doubt there's a mid season fix for the lack of talent at wr. It's not like they're suddenly going to be able to get separation. Teams have us figured out.

1.Double/ tripple Kelce
2. Man up on our sorry ass wr's
3. Profit

mr. tegu 11-21-2023 07:27 AM

If he was going to make any big changes it would have been in the bye week and he didn’t. That’s why yesterdays game is so frustrating. Nothing changed. And the team we saw yesterday and basically all season the way the offense runs won’t win a Super Bowl.

We will end up losing in identical fashion where we dominate but dumb self inflicted mistakes beat us. Like Belicheck said, you lose way more games than you win, and this team has consistently shown not to be mistake free enough consistently to overcome their severe WR disadvantage to win 3-4 playoff games in a row.

Bearcat 11-21-2023 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 17236563)
This team isn't all that different from past teams. KC made a living out of come from behind wins and fans got spoiled thinking it can happen all the time. Some bad luck this year with drops in key moments. MVS and Moore catch those game ending balls and this is no different from other years.

Get the WR's in front of the jugs for an extra 100 balls at the beginning and end of practice.

Yeah, remember all the times we've said we're absolutely spoiled with how they can score on demand and comebacks seemed so inevitable.... yeah, that's actually really ****ing hard to accomplish at the level they did.

It might bite them in the ass this season, but with this defense and how playoff seeding is looking, I'm not ruling out anything.


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