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duncan_idaho 07-25-2023 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kcgreene (Post 17030077)
Unless the plan is possibly to move on from Thuney and retain Trey... Thuney's contract is up in 25' at his age 33 season, and we can get out of it Saving 16M with the remaining 6.6 as dead money if we cut him in 25'. 24' is the last year of Trey's rookie deal. Also, I don't think Trey will get Thuney money, but serves his role very well.

If you're going to pay 3 guys, I think your T really would ideally be 2 of them. If you're going to pay 2 guys, I think your T really would ideally be 2 of them.

I just have a hard time seeing them commit big at C and RG and both Ts.

Mecca 07-25-2023 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17030331)
If you're going to pay 3 guys, I think your T really would ideally be 2 of them. If you're going to pay 2 guys, I think your T really would ideally be 2 of them.

I just have a hard time seeing them commit big at C and RG and both Ts.

If they can draft a OT that would buy them a second contract for one of the other guys.

Balto 07-25-2023 02:12 PM

I'm not sure I agree that if we trade Jones we won't win a Super Bowl without him talk. YES if we trade Jones now and role with the current DTs we have a Super Bowl is gonna be very hard. I just think if Veach pulled a Tyreek and traded Jones he would then look for a stop gap or a trade to beef up the DT position more than what we have outside of Jones atm.

I mean hell bring in Suh as a 1 year stop gap. Yes he is about washed but would be better than what we currently have. Or maybe not and he should retire haha

Balto 07-25-2023 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17030331)
If you're going to pay 3 guys, I think your T really would ideally be 2 of them. If you're going to pay 2 guys, I think your T really would ideally be 2 of them.

I just have a hard time seeing them commit big at C and RG and both Ts.

100% agree and thats why Veach getting these starters on rookie deals need to keep happening. If Veach can get us a tackle in next years draft we can role with. Ideally Veach always has a couple of rookie contracts on the OL

Mecca 07-25-2023 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17030344)
I'm not sure I agree that if we trade Jones we won't win a Super Bowl without him talk. YES if we trade Jones now and role with the current DTs we have a Super Bowl is gonna be very hard. I just think if Veach pulled a Tyreek and traded Jones he would then look for a stop gap or a trade to beef up the DT position more than what we have outside of Jones atm.

I mean hell bring in Suh as a 1 year stop gap. Yes he is about washed but would be better than what we currently have. Or maybe not and he should retire haha

It wouldn't cripple the team, we'd just have to be a different team.

There are some decent stop gaps out there right now that I'd argue we should look at because are DT depth is bleh and Warton may start the year on PUP. But odds are we have 1 more season with Jones either way.

kcgreene 07-25-2023 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17030331)
If you're going to pay 3 guys, I think your T really would ideally be 2 of them. If you're going to pay 2 guys, I think your T really would ideally be 2 of them.

I just have a hard time seeing them commit big at C and RG and both Ts.

If we draft a Tackle, he's cost controlled. at that point, we are committing big at RT (which we already are) and Center (Humphrey). I don't see that extending Smith is entirely out of the picture when Thuney is gone. Don't get me wrong, maybe Humphrey's extension will be massive and there will be no chance to keep Smith, but I think there is a (albeit uncertain) possibility both could be extended. By the time the OT is up for extension, Taylor will be gone and we can extend him. Just trying to see the situation coming before us.

Simply Red 07-25-2023 02:30 PM

updates?

ptlyon 07-25-2023 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 17030360)
updates?

I'm trying to poop

Simply Red 07-25-2023 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 17030363)
I'm trying to poop

thank you.

ptlyon 07-25-2023 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 17030364)
thank you.

Sorry fellas. My hopes that if it were successful Jones had simply overslept and would report tomorrow, but no luck.

Neg away.

suzzer99 07-25-2023 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17030029)
"Nate Taylor of The Athletic reported that the Chiefs have not been willing to give Jones $30 million per season on a new contract. Per Taylor, Jones wants a new deal that would make him "at least the second-highest-paid player at his position."

Work this bitch out and settle between 28 and 29.

Since clearly someone in the Chiefs camp leaked this, the Jones camp needs to leak what the Chiefs are offering.

I would assume no higher than $27M.

dlphg9 07-25-2023 03:43 PM

I don't have a problem with paying him the biggest contract for a defender that's not named Aaron Donald, so TJ Watt is at $28,002,750/yr. If $28.5-$29 mil isn't good enough for him, then I think Veach has to move on.

Gary Cooper 07-25-2023 04:20 PM

The Patriots would have already dumped this guy by now and replaced him with two white dudes at WR who are super-clutch and some Polish LB who makes the Pro-Bowl.

BigRedChief 07-25-2023 04:28 PM

Letting Jones walk without the tag next year would be extremely incompetent. Veach is not incompetent.

TribalElder 07-25-2023 04:37 PM

Anyone have the running fine total

(number of days vets have been at training camp) X ($50,000.00) = Fine Total so far


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