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If Season 1 was Breaking Bad, Season 3 is Better Call Saul.
I love both, but there are clear differences in the pacing and storytelling. Season 2 was like, the most inane episodes of Ozark or somesuch. |
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Slow build to some serious payoff in last 15 minutes or so tonight.
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Ok so lets discuss this episode
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My take on him: he works for the Hoyt family after likely getting hurt in a chicken plant (first black dude with an eye says that tons of people have lost eyes working in the industry). He accidentally killed the brother during the abduction and was ordered to dispose of the body. He placed the boy in the cave in the praying position and made a trail to the body with the dolls as an act of contrition. One of the bigger theories I'm enjoying is the speculation around the sexuality of Dorff's character. Quite a bit of smoke suggesting that he and Tom (who we now know "struggles" with homosexuality) might have had a sexual encounter. |
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I'll keep spoiler tagging since I'm of the mindset it's a truly a spoiler until an entire streamable series has concluded since some people won't start until it's completed which allows them to binge watch all it once.
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I also kind of agree with Discuss in that there seems to be a lot of throwaway shit happening this season that doesn't really advance the arc of the story.
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a) what happened to Lori between 1990 and 2015? and b) why is Roland pissed at something Wayne did that he didn't do or was forced to do? |
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Roland looks insanely betrayed by Tom in the interrogation room when they think Tom might actually be the killer. That ****ing scowl is menacing as hell. -While interrogating Tom at the beginning of the episode, Wayne asks Tom again about where he was the night of the incident. Tom panics and says something along the lines of “You know where I...” then trails off. He’s looking right at Roland when he says this. -Roland desperately wants to “clear Tom” of any involvement. -When Hays wants to follow up on Tom being gay, he mentions going to gay clubs and that Devil’s Den was a “homo cruisin’ spot”. West replies to this by telling Hays to “**** off”. -2015 Roland is a bitter old man who lives alone. A far cry from how we see Roland (and his home) in 1980 and 1990. - When Henry drives Wayne out to see him. Roland asks him if Wayne “remembers why I’m still pissed at him.” Wayne may possibly out in him in 1990 inadvertently. - Roland bristles at Wayne’s repeated use of prison rape as a threat in interrogations. He makes sure to voice his displeasure to this each time. |
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Ok well the next 2 episodes are gonna be pretty intense
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Well, yeah, last nights was pretty intense.
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god damn this season has kicked so much ass. totally awesome slow burn and I can't wait for the season finale!
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IDK how people picked up on who was voicing Hoyt and I don't recall the photo in the plant offices being obvious enough.
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I've liked this season while at the same time feeling like it's been a bit muddled.
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watched the first episode of Season 3- I noticed it had potential - but haven't rushed back to catch up.
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I read this article last night that threw me for a loop. It states some things I didn't think were set in stone
https://uproxx.com/tv/true-detective...final-country/ |
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I really appreciate that Pizzolato has been active on social media straight up answering some questions and squashing some theories. He learned from S1 that letting the public run wild with theories and such will garner you some immediate buzz but will eventually turn sour when the reality of what occurs doesn't match the buildup they've created. |
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Rereading the reddit comments, I'm going to credit the **** out of two people here:
First, the random reddit keyboard jockey that pointed out that Elisa's role in the story was to be the audience stand-in and serve as a red herring. Second, to Pizz for spelling it out for us early on in the show with Wayne saying something to the effect of 'Separate any sort of theories from the facts you have so you don't bend your thinking to fit those theories'.' Want to say it was the scene with him and Amelia canvassing the grassland during episode 1 or 2. Guess Pizz's social media accounts are already catching guff about how people were displeased with the finale namely because of what I was addressing in point 1. I am impressed. |
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Season 3 was a straight up whodunit/mystery with a life long timeline. The moving back and forth in the timeline was done so well that it became integral to the telling of the story instead of just revealing a backstory to move faster to the finish. Best acted/directed/edited TV I've seen this year. It's usually fair game to talk openly about a show/movie after its aired but I'll still spoil this comment about the ending.
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I like MB Jordan a lot but he's not a better actor than Ali.
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I just saw the last episode of TD last night. I thought it was really anti-climatic, the old one-eye black man told the whole story. They should moved the Harris killing to the final show and had them all as seniors, and then they beat the shit out of Harris and kill him as he spills the beans on the whole deal. That little talk with rich guy Hoyt was overblown, turned out to be nothing and nobody got hurt, Hoyt didn't really know what was going on.
If I had to choose, last year's HBO miniseries "The Night Of" had me hooked all the way, it was way better. If I had to choose just miniseries in general, I'll take any of the three Fargo seasons over TD Season 3. It just felt empty at the end, sort of like the Seinfeld finally. https://www.indiewire.com/wp-content...resize=900,600 I almost forget, Escape from Dannemora that just ended last month on Showtime, that was really excellent!!! Check it out if you haven't seen it. https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/m...mod=1543616547 |
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Bore fest. Mumbling, incoherent,and not that enjoyable.
As far as living actors better than Ali? Are you kidding? Living? I'll start with currently working then move to include actors that are legendary that are still 'living' and maybe not working so much that are all superior to Maserhali Ali. Tom Hardy Denzel Washington Michael Fassbinder Christian Bale Gary Oldman Edward Norton Joaquin Phoenix Leonardo DiCaprio Sam Rockwell Bryan Cranston Paul Giamatti Benecio Del Toro Matthew McConaughey Mads Mikkelson Benedict Cumberbatch Hugh Jackman Jake Gyllenhall Adrien Brody Ben Mendehlson Daniel Day Lewis Vincent Donofrio Brad Pitt Robert Downey Jr. John Malkovich Woody Harrelson Jamie Foxx Jeff Bridges Josh Brolin John Turtorro Christopher Walken Viggo Mortensen Not working, but LIVING (per the original quantification) Jack Nicholson Al Pacino Sean Connery Michael Caine Morgan Freeman Robert DeNiro Tom Hanks Clint Eastwood Anthony Hopkins Ben Kingsley Willem Defoe Harvey Keitel Bill Nighy Max Von Sidow All of these actors are superior. All of them. |
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I mean, this ending while drawn out was really well filmed. Brought closure while still leaving everything up for interpretation. And actually brought a happy ending to a usually dark series. All while tossing in some punchy twists. It may sit bland now, but if the series continues for a few more seasons, i feel like the ending will age well. |
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This series has gotten a little worse each iteration. Season Two, overall, was more coherent and more interesting. I finally wrapped this up tonight after pushing it off for a few weeks because I honestly lost interest. Absolutely no suspense whatsoever and I had a hard time caring about the outcome — I fell asleep twice watching the final two episodes.
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I remember being disappointed with Season Two, for sure. But I never fell asleep. I thought this season had promise and thought they were definitely back on track after episode 1, but it just was so slow moving that frankly my interest waned with each episode. I just didn’t care.
I think Ali’s acting job was very good and he moved between the different eras with ease, which was praiseworthy. But unfortunately the rest of the season tried so hard to be season one that it ultimately failed. I’ll relent; the acting and characters this season were superior to season two— it was poorly executed. |
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Have 2 episidoes left to watch and this is really ****ing good. Not first season greatness but close enough. Mahershala Ali is pretty excellent here.
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People who don't like season 3 are the same people who won't watch Better Call Saul. There's an art to telling the story slowly and deliberately. Especially in today's world.
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This season feels like an episode of the X Files. Enjoying it so far.
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I’m completely underwhelmed and disappointed (again).
*POSSIBLE SPOILERS* No. Worse than that. In fact, I think it’s absolute dogshit and not just because all the male characters are either incompetent, weak, or wife-beating criminals. But to that point, the writers want us to believe militant lesbians *ahem* …er… women running a small Alaskan village is rather commonplace; much like a mostly female construction or coal mining crew, or maybe a female led wildland firefighting team (insert eye roll). Clearly, they purposely reversed all the roles of traditional male characters to female, and set the story in a remote Alaskan village, which would absolutely never be this way in reality. The dialogue is awkward and the acting is wooden. Nobody talks like these characters do in real life, and for a series that started off ten years ago with intelligent writing and directing—it’s insulting. I could write a short essay on how terribly bad the storyline in episode one is alone; the bodies are found by a ghost doing interpretive dance. No shit; a f***ing ghost doing interpretive dance. What-the-f**k ever…Cringey ‘symbolism’ with a magical polar bear, bad CGI caribou that leap to their death in slo-mo; oooooh, that’s creepy! I stopped after one episode. I just don’t care. Each successive iteration of this show seems to get progressively worse, but this season it bottoms out. |
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I’ve hated this season so far. It’s a jumbled ****ing mess. I don’t know who is directing this, but they have the attention span of a gnat. It’s ****ing all over the place. Just awful viewing. Sadly, I think I’m giving up on it.
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Enjoyed the first couple of episodes, though i understand the feminism complaints. This last episode though...snooze fest. Super heavy on the "strong woman" narrative and incredibly boring and uninteresting dialogue.
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I had a hard time keeping my attention on the 3rd episode too. Dislike the storyline with Danvers young assistant. I don't enjoy the back story/drama between Danvers and Navarro either but I bet that's key for some reason
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