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Sure-Oz 08-15-2022 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16414223)
Jimmy’s back and has atoned for his sins. I was wrong there. Amazing.



This was never gonna be Felina. You just can’t top that. But this was good. It took a different turn and still did what I thought

So glad to see Jimmy back.

notorious 08-15-2022 10:47 PM

Jimmy McGill was a hustler scumbag, too. Easy to forget.

The color in the cigarette was the small glimmer of happiness rekindled between Jimmy and Kim. They won't have what they once did, but there is still a shred there.

cosmo20002 08-15-2022 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16414221)
If you wanted a real-world ending, he would have taken the 7 years and figured out another way to get Kim out of harm's way.

Decent enough, it didn't soil the series at all, I just don't see him doing it the way he did.

Still one of the best shows this decade. Gilligan is awesome.

But he didn't get Kim out of harm's way. At all.
That's what's so ridiculous about giving up his sweet plea deal. He got nothing for it.

notorious 08-15-2022 10:49 PM

I wish he would have went out full Saul. Sentenced to 7, gets out in less than 4 for good behavior.


That's just me.

The writers did fine. Like I said, it didn't ruin the series (Game of Thrones comes to mind).

cosmo20002 08-15-2022 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16414223)
Jimmy’s back and has atoned for his sins. I was wrong there. Amazing.

This was never gonna be Felina. You just can’t top that. But this was good. It took a different turn and still did what I thought

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 16414229)
So glad to see Jimmy back.

Jimmy was mostly a jerk.
And he wouldn't have taken 86 years in a shithole prison when he could have had 7 in a nice one. No one would.

Buehler445 08-15-2022 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 16414130)
What was with the cherry of the cig being in color. Mishap in the editing room?

Dude.

It’s representative of the small spark of happiness he feels with Kim. He can’t have full technicolor but just like the cigarette is a small reprieve from jail, seeing Kim brings a little color back to his life.

Color = life with Kim
B/W = life without Kim

It’s beautiful nuanced filmmaking. No mistake there.

notorious 08-15-2022 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 16414237)
Dude.

It’s representative of the small spark of happiness he feels with Kim. He can’t have full technicolor but just like the cigarette is a small reprieve from jail, seeing Kim brings a little color back to his life.

Color = life with Kim
B/W = life without Kim

It’s beautiful nuanced filmmaking. No mistake there.

You got Penz'd, Bueh.

Buehler445 08-15-2022 10:58 PM

He Broke back. That is a nice touch that I didn’t see coming.

Of all the speculation that is around (admittedly I didn’t partake in), him falling on his sword because Kim was right I bet wasn’t in many peoples guesses.

Whatever you think about the show you have to tip your cap to the cast and crew, this is nothing if not a spirited, hard earned endeavor the likes of which are rare these days. I loved it, but even if you didn’t, you have to respect the craft.

Buehler445 08-15-2022 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16414239)
You got Penz'd, Bueh.

****. I don’t look. I thought it was carr4mvp. They must have similar avatars.

Well done Penz. You got my ass.

notorious 08-15-2022 11:01 PM

The best part of the episode was Saul telling his "story" and watching the star prosecuting attorney shit his pants.

He owned the best of the best, and it was fantastic.

RunKC 08-15-2022 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 16414236)
Jimmy was mostly a jerk.
And he wouldn't have taken 86 years in a shithole prison when he could have had 7 in a nice one. No one would.

You didn’t get the point did you?

Buehler445 08-15-2022 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 16414191)
She voluntarily confessed. So to claim that she voluntarily confessed to things she didn't actually do...Ridiculous.

At best, he took an additional 80 years in prison because he thought it MIGHT help Kim (which isn't reasonable to believe in the first place).

Kim's confession in the first place was ridiculous. I'm sure she felt really bad about what happened, but when no one's after you, you don't turn yourself in. It's not believable human behavior by either of them.

It’s called a character arc dude.

Did you sit there during Breaking Bad and say, “Walter White was too timid he’d never do that!!!!!1” ?

Also side note: do you have a soul? I’m guessing watching your mentor get his brain splattered across your apartment would have an impact on most people that have a soul. Not you though.

cosmo20002 08-15-2022 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 16414244)
It’s called a character arc dude.

Did you sit there during Breaking Bad and say, “Walter White was too timid he’d never do that!!!!!1” ?

Also side note: do you have a soul? I’m guessing watching your mentor get his brain splattered across your apartment would have an impact on most people that have a soul. Not you though.

dude, don't give me the "character arc" BS.
It's not believable human behavior. Period.
Could take 7 years, but took 86 instead. For no reason.

I swear, I think some of you get so invested in these shows that criticizing them would be like admitting some sort of flaw in yourself. Overall, I think it was a great show that overcame a largely boring start. But you can't just write off characters doing really dumb things that they or no human would never, ever, do as a "character arc."

If he actually sacrificed himself for SOMETHING or SOMEONE...maybe. But he didn't. It's not getting Kim off. She voluntarily confessed. It's like they so badly wanted to avoid any "predictable" ending like him escaping just so they could come up with something crazy that no one would ever guess. Well, there's a reason no one would ever guess this--it is completely ridiculous that any person would do this.

cosmo20002 08-15-2022 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16414243)
You didn’t get the point did you?

You're the second to say that without actually explaining this point I missed.

chiefzilla1501 08-16-2022 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16414233)
I wish he would have went out full Saul. Sentenced to 7, gets out in less than 4 for good behavior.


That's just me.

The writers did fine. Like I said, it didn't ruin the series (Game of Thrones comes to mind).

In the Gilligan universe you either atone big time or wind up dead. There is no redemption arc for anyone who breaks bad and stayed that way. The telephone call a few episodes was beautifully scripted. It reminds me you that most people lost it all or went through hell to find their way to purgatory.


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