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Fire Me Boy! 07-12-2016 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 12312495)
Well thanks. I've been doing competitive bbq for almost 20 years. That doesn't make me anymore an expert than anyone else, but it has provided me the opportunity to interact with hundreds of bbq affectionados over the years, and meat slow cooked directly over coals is generally regarded as not as good as meat smoked either over the coals with a pan in between (vertical smoker like the wsm), or meat smoked indirectly in an offset cooker. I'm sure FMB's food is fantastic. I'm just not a fan of the taste of smoke generated from fat drippings. Tomatos, tomahtos

I agree - the smoke from the drippings isn't very good for BBQ. It tastes fine, it's just not right, if you know what I mean. Hence the reason I've slowly been changing my ratio, and that's doing the trick. I can't explain it - maybe vaporizing on wood is different than vaporizing on coals? I really don't know. Or maybe it's still there, but the smoke is overpowering it. Either way, as I move the ratio of wood to charcoal higher, it tastes better.

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 12312650)
I was under the impression there was no pan in FMB's rig? I've used sand. It works well. I use water for chicken though. I thought FMB's rig had the meat hanging directly over the coals, so the drippings went onto the coals. I might have misunderstood. Dripping into the sand or water is fine IMO

No pan between the coals in the meat.

In58men 07-12-2016 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12312720)
Is falling off meaning when you pick it up or falling off like the meat easily separating from the bone when you bite it? Seems most people like ribs that easily separate from the bone when you bite into them, no?

When you pick it up or flick it off the bone. I ordered a half rack and Logan's Roadhouse and it was horrible. I'd picked up a rib and the others would separate.

Buzz 07-12-2016 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 12312807)
No pan between the coals in the meat.


I maybe missing something but why are you not using a water pan?

BigRedChief 07-12-2016 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 12312660)
You're correct, I assumed you were talking about the WSM. I definitely smoke with a pan under the meat, never did like it dripping on the coals.

I use a wood smoker. Pan of water to help with mositure. The smoker always has an apparatus to make sure the drippings stay off the wood being smoked. I never tried it but too many people on the forums warned about the acid and or sharp taste of smoke into the meat coated with grease drippings.

Fire Me Boy! 07-12-2016 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz (Post 12312901)
I maybe missing something but why are you not using a water pan?



Because that's not how the PBC is designed. I may mod it to do that, but it would take a lot of the hanging space away.

In58men 07-12-2016 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 12312914)
I use a wood smoker. Pan of water to help with mositure. The smoker always has an apparatus to make sure the drippings stay off the wood being smoked. I never tried it but too many people on the forums warned about the acid and or sharp taste of smoke into the meat coated with grease drippings.

Yep, same here. Sometimes I like to leave a few chunks of wood in the water pan while smoking.

Buzz 07-12-2016 07:37 PM

This thread makes me sorry I sold my smoker. That being said, oh well.

BigRedChief 07-12-2016 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz (Post 12312963)
This thread makes me sorry I sold my smoker. That being said, oh well.

A usable one without the bells and whistles is not that expensive anymore.

GloryDayz 07-12-2016 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12312693)
Really?

I always thought the best ribs were the ones where the meat just falls off the bone. I learned something new.


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Not fall off the bone, but a slight tug with the teeth should leave the bone meatless.

But what's worse than fall-off-the-bone is still-welded-to-the-bone. Nothing worse than ending up with half a pound of meat between your teeth because you had to tug on it like a lion on a wildebeest for an hour.

tooge 07-12-2016 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 12312918)
Because that's not how the PBC is designed. I may mod it to do that, but it would take a lot of the hanging space away.

Besides, then you're almost have a WSM. Wink

Dinny Bossa Nova 07-13-2016 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 12313051)
Besides, then you're almost have a WSM. Wink

ROFLROFL

Damn, tooge. Knockin' the shine off FMB's new gadget like that.

The main reason I use the water pan is temperature control. 2 gallons in the water pan gives me 6 hours of virtually worry free steady 225 degrees. Then I add another 1 or 1.5 gallons which will take me to the end of an average brisket. Sometimes you get a piece of a real stubborn cow that won't go through the stall. 1 more gallon and 225 to submission.

Two mods I added when I first bought it. The stai.......

Three mods I added when I first bought it. The stainless steel door. Latch for said door. The gasket set.

I can control the temperature of this unit down to a gnat's ass with the wireless dual probe thingy. It's almost like cheating or sumthin'.

Dinny

tooge 07-13-2016 08:26 AM

I'm just busting his chops. I've yet to find a smoker, and I've had many over the years, that puts out food any better than the wsm. Particularly when you factor in how easy it is to us, the cost, the amount of fuel it burns, the amount of food you can put on it, etc. There are many ways to skin a cat though, and I've seen enough pics of his food that I'm guessing its fantastic tasting too.

Dinny Bossa Nova 07-13-2016 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 12313533)
I'm just busting his chops. I've yet to find a smoker, and I've had many over the years, that puts out food any better than the wsm. Particularly when you factor in how easy it is to us, the cost, the amount of fuel it burns, the amount of food you can put on it, etc. There are many ways to skin a cat though, and I've seen enough pics of his food that I'm guessing its fantastic tasting too.

Preach on, reverend tooge.

I'll be over here harmonizing with the WSM Choir.

Dinny

In58men 07-13-2016 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dinny Blues (Post 12313605)
Preach on, reverend tooge.

I'll be over here harmonizing with the WSM Choir.

Dinny

They're the best in the biz, anything else is trash.

tooge 07-13-2016 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 12313627)
They're the best in the biz, anything else is trash.

Glad you are back man. Gotta tell you though, that every time I see your name it still looks like In58men to me. I still chuckle about that one.


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