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bdj23 07-21-2018 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13638465)
we should trade him. This hot why wouldn’t we get some contenders top prospect? We are going nowhere this year. Sell high.

And just as a reminder, Fowler still ain’t doing shit.

I agree.. its just sad to see him impersonating Albert Pujols when it doesn't mean anything.

jd1020 07-21-2018 08:27 PM

Neither team wants to win this game.

Just a matter of which team wants the other to win more.

jd1020 07-21-2018 08:38 PM

No more getting thrown out of games, Maddon.

Hyde can't manage a game the Cardinals tried to throw and he threw it right back.

Frazod 07-21-2018 08:39 PM

Cards sure look like they want to win at the moment....

jd1020 07-21-2018 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 13638502)
Cards sure look like they want to win at the moment....

Hard not to when you get back to back walks to start the inning.

This whole series has been a bunch of lets wait til my pitcher gets into a really tough spot to make a move from both teams.

jd1020 07-21-2018 08:49 PM

So far in this series, Cubs pitching has handed out 22 free bases and there's still one game to go.

Might be time to throw out the book on nibbling, Hickey.

BigRedChief 07-21-2018 09:29 PM

That was a good win. Nice to beat the Cubs in a close game, one we came from behind to win. At Wrigley. That’s a rarity the last few years.

Seeing a little different managing from Shildt. Bringing in Hicks early. Seems like a no brainer to bring your best pitcher in with the bases loaded and the heart of the lineup coming up to hit but that never happened with Matheny. Meathead brings in some scrub because it’s the 6th inning and the game is over.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-21-2018 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13638541)
That was a good win. Nice to beat the Cubs in a close game, one we came from behind to win. At Wrigley. That’s a rarity the last few years.

Seeing a little different managing from Shildt. Bringing in Hicks early. Seems like a no brainer to bring your best pitcher in with the bases loaded and the heart of the lineup coming up to hit but that never happened with Matheny. Meathead brings in some scrub because it’s the 6th inning and the game is over.

There's one thing you're missing here: he brought Holland in to a one-run game and left him in for multiple batters despite him going full Holland.

Holland needs to be summarily executed at the team hotel tonight. It's been 100 games at this point. His K/9 is 7.92, which incidentally is also his BB/9. There are 428 pitchers that have thrown more than 20 innings. His xFIP is 422/428. One of the six that is worse is Brett Cecil. The Cardinals are literally paying two pitchers who are in the first percentile of performance over 20 million dollars. How in the **** is that even possible?

Frazod 07-21-2018 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13638541)
That was a good win. Nice to beat the Cubs in a close game, one we came from behind to win. At Wrigley. That’s a rarity the last few years.

Seeing a little different managing from Shildt. Bringing in Hicks early. Seems like a no brainer to bring your best pitcher in with the bases loaded and the heart of the lineup coming up to hit but that never happened with Matheny. Meathead brings in some scrub because it’s the 6th inning and the game is over.

I got to watch the end in a bar full of Cub fans. That was nice. :)

BigRedChief 07-21-2018 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13638610)
There's one thing you're missing here: he brought Holland in to a one-run game and left him in for multiple batters despite him going full Holland.

Holland needs to be summarily executed at the team hotel tonight. It's been 100 games at this point. His K/9 is 7.92, which incidentally is also his BB/9. There are 428 pitchers that have thrown more than 20 innings. His xFIP is 422/428. One of the six that is worse is Brett Cecil. The Cardinals are literally paying two pitchers who are in the first percentile of performance over 20 million dollars. How in the **** is that even possible?

Matheny burning up bullpen relievers arms so consistently that we have to way over pay and take gambles just to fill the pen?

bdj23 07-22-2018 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13638610)
There's one thing you're missing here: he brought Holland in to a one-run game and left him in for multiple batters despite him going full Holland.

Holland needs to be summarily executed at the team hotel tonight. It's been 100 games at this point. His K/9 is 7.92, which incidentally is also his BB/9. There are 428 pitchers that have thrown more than 20 innings. His xFIP is 422/428. One of the six that is worse is Brett Cecil. The Cardinals are literally paying two pitchers who are in the first percentile of performance over 20 million dollars. How in the **** is that even possible?

I almost made a Bowman needs to be summarily executed post the other day, but i thought it would be in poor taste.

VAChief 07-22-2018 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13638610)
There's one thing you're missing here: he brought Holland in to a one-run game and left him in for multiple batters despite him going full Holland.

Holland needs to be summarily executed at the team hotel tonight. It's been 100 games at this point. His K/9 is 7.92, which incidentally is also his BB/9. There are 428 pitchers that have thrown more than 20 innings. His xFIP is 422/428. One of the six that is worse is Brett Cecil. The Cardinals are literally paying two pitchers who are in the first percentile of performance over 20 million dollars. How in the **** is that even possible?

You both are right. I stepped away for a minute and come back to find Holland in a jam and I was like WTFffffffffff! The days of hoping he gets his act together enough to be serviceable either here or as a chip for another team are over. Cut his ass right now! This bullpen can’t afford anymore “kerosene on a fire” arms.

That said I was thinking why isn’t Hicks in and then he brought him in, it was just two batters too late. I will cut Shildt a little slack since it was the 4th game of a 5 game series and he can’t run everyone in the ground. He doesn’t pick who Mo stocks the pen with, but hopefully from now on he keeps Holland on a short lease in meaningless innings as long as we are burdened with his stench on our roster.

MarkDavis'Haircut 07-22-2018 09:31 AM

My Pirates are above .500 again. Starting to believe again.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-22-2018 10:20 AM

They are as screwed as your Faid

BigRedChief 07-22-2018 10:27 AM

It’s the salsa

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