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Baby Lee 05-01-2022 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jenson71 (Post 16277719)
I'm embarrassed to admit I hadn't thought of checking out AMC.com, which of course, the shows were available to watch as soon as you put your cable subscription in.

So, I'm caught up.

I can't remember why we're supposed to not like Howard Hamlin so much. I get some pranks, like the hookers at the restaurant, but did he really do anything so bad to deserve a potential malpractice lawsuit and the complete ruining of his reputation?

It's not one galvanizing thing, but the Kim/Saul resentment of Hamlin is a cautionary tale of how small resentments can coalesce and synergize if you have common cause.

For both Kim and Saul, Hamlin is the avatar for the blithe and slick barriers to respect and recognition. He carried the water for Chuck's firm opposition to Slippin' Jimmy ever becoming an attorney without revealing his own feelings on the matter. He overworked Kim, then demoted her to punish her for things beyond her control, and then he would remind her of that demotion in front of colleagues and friends.

He's that institutional smiling face of 'we'd love to, but we can't' always thrown in their way when they felt progress and recognition was merited, but to their perspective, he never actually has the balls to be cutthroat and vindictive publicly or anywhere outside small private deniable moments.

KentuckyChief 05-02-2022 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 16277753)
It's not one galvanizing thing, but the Kim/Saul resentment of Hamlin is a cautionary tale of how small resentments can coalesce and synergize if you have common cause.

For both Kim and Saul, Hamlin is the avatar for the blithe and slick barriers to respect and recognition. He carried the water for Chuck's firm opposition to Slippin' Jimmy ever becoming an attorney without revealing his own feelings on the matter. He overworked Kim, then demoted her to punish her for things beyond her control, and then he would remind her of that demotion in front of colleagues and friends.

He's that institutional smiling face of 'we'd love to, but we can't' always thrown in their way when they felt progress and recognition was merited, but to their perspective, he never actually has the balls to be cutthroat and vindictive publicly or anywhere outside small private deniable moments.

I don’t think it has to do with Hamlin at all, really. They’re trying to get the sandpiper case settled so Saul can get paid

Baby Lee 05-02-2022 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KentuckyChief (Post 16278101)
I don’t think it has to do with Hamlin at all, really. They’re trying to get the sandpiper case settled so Saul can get paid

prostitutes, and . . . bowling balls?? You sound a little unhinged . . .

KentuckyChief 05-02-2022 10:20 AM

That part of it is unhinged, he is slipping jimmy after all. I think that’s just the simple ****ery games he plays. However, it’s Kim that has been driving the bus on trying to take Hamlin and his career down. I have a theory that she is trying to get the sandpiper case settled so that she can **** jimmy over to get the sandpiper money. She’s doing mostly pro bono work and probably sees the settlement as a way of continuing in that line of work. It was her that suggested they get married. At the time she proposed the idea it seemed, to us the viewer that the proposal was so that neither would ever have to testify against the other but I think she’s been playing jimmy all along.

KentuckyChief 05-02-2022 10:59 AM

Well, maybe not all along, but after leaving S&C. I do agree with your estimation of why they would try to screw with Hamlin though.

Baby Lee 05-03-2022 12:26 PM

Just Spooge

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L.A. Chieffan 05-04-2022 09:23 AM

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BigRedChief 05-07-2022 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KentuckyChief (Post 16278367)
That part of it is unhinged, he is slipping jimmy after all. I think that’s just the simple ****ery games he plays. However, it’s Kim that has been driving the bus on trying to take Hamlin and his career down. I have a theory that she is trying to get the sandpiper case settled so that she can **** jimmy over to get the sandpiper money. She’s doing mostly pro bono work and probably sees the settlement as a way of continuing in that line of work. It was her that suggested they get married. At the time she proposed the idea it seemed, to us the viewer that the proposal was so that neither would ever have to testify against the other but I think she’s been playing jimmy all along.

they have portrayed her in the series as having genuine love for Jimmy. We know she’s not in or even mentioned in Breaking Bad. No idea and not read any spoilers but she has to die. They can’t just breakup or she disappears and rips him off. That’s going to be a cop out.

KentuckyChief 05-07-2022 05:21 AM

I agree that her death is the most likely outcome, but a handful of scenes from BB and BCS kinda lead me to think there’s a twist coming.

notorious 05-07-2022 06:04 AM

I don't think she dies, Jimmy wouldn't be who he is in BB.

I think she moves. They planted a HUGE seed when she met with the Clifford Main guy during the "Fake Howard/Wendy car" scene and she told him about her idea and he liked it.


That's why she was never in BB.

notorious 05-07-2022 06:10 AM

As soon as Wendy walked out I immediately thought:

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BigRedChief 05-07-2022 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16285456)
I don't think she dies, Jimmy wouldn't be who he is in BB.

I think she moves. They planted a HUGE seed when she met with the Clifford Main guy during the "Fake Howard/Wendy car" scene and she told him about her idea and he liked it.


That's why she was never in BB.

She moves to a different city is a cop out. All the shit that goes down, he never reached out to her to help in those situations?

InvinciBill 05-07-2022 08:56 AM

My guess is that Kim is alive, but disappeared via Vaccum-Cleaner man. And she is going to meet up with Cinnabon Saul in the post-Breaking-Bad timeline. By itself that would be too sunshiney for this Universe, but Gilligan will add some dark twist.

lcarus 05-07-2022 09:09 AM

I wonder if they're gonna do any scenes with Bill Burr. I know they had something in the works way earlier in the show, but Burr couldn't do it at the time. There's still time to do it though. As far as I can recall he's the one guy they haven't shown from that whole network of criminals.

notorious 05-07-2022 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16285479)
She moves to a different city is a cop out. All the shit that goes down, he never reached out to her to help in those situations?


He's on camera like 1 minute an episode every once in a while on BB.

He's a side character. Why would it show Saul reaching out when it wouldn't add anything to the BB story?


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