Bobby Petrino. He's a winner which is all that matters in the SEC and I am sure he would jump from Western Kentucky.

I know I'm dreaming, and that there are penalties, but...
How much fun would it be for Pinkel to somehow make it through another year, and we hire Kelly after he flames out in Philly?


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Never going to happen. Really no point in discussing it.

Also, his recruiting at Arkansas was no better than Pinkel's has been at Mizzou. Not sure you really get the upgrade there that you're looking for.

I might consider enduring another year of Pinkel for that.

5-7, 8-5, 10-3, 11-2. That 8-5 year should have been 9-4 and a win against #1 Florida but the refs f'd them at the end of the game. They had a close loss to Ohio State in the Sugar Bowl and wrecked K-State in the Cotton Bowl. Also Ryan Mallett seemed to work out for him.

Missouri would kill for that improvement. I agree it probably will never happen, but they need to decide whether they are committed to winning or just getting paid for taking a beating.

There's no probably about it. Bobby Petrino will never be hired at Mizzou unless they're willing to see the two biggest donors to the university stop donating (period).

Petrino is a brilliant offensive mind, but he was a mediocre recruiter BEFORE his rep went nuclear. Can't see any way he wouldn't be worse now. Auburn - which has been obsessed with hiring him for a DECADE - passed on him this offseason. That should tell you how bad things are for Petrino.

As usual, Missouri is committed to average.

When the doners won't pay up, you don't have that option.

Alienating the Lauries so you can hire a guy that is unquestionably an asshole and will leave the program the moment he gets traction is a really really bad idea. And that's presuming he'd come cheap enough that you can get him hired without Laurie/Walton money anyway.

What do you do in 4 years when he's left for USC and the Lauries have sworn off giving MU any more money for athletics? Where are you going to come up with the 3-5 million it takes to secure/retain a good coach?

In a vacuum, I think Petrino's an interesting idea. But we aren't in a vacuum. The consequence of hiring Petrino would be so dire that it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to bring him in.

The donors that would walk away have donated a combined $100 million in the past decade or so.

Also, you're doing it for a guy who is going to LESS effective than he was at his last job, where he didn't win anything more significant than the Cotton Bowl.

I get that the donors will go away, but turning away from someone that will help you win vs. someone that gives you warm and fuzzies is dumb and like I said committed to average. If that's what we're stuck with then it's sad as usual.

Missouri isn't close to being able to compete for the Cotton bowl, so let's set some attainable goals first before we act like it's beneath us.

I fully expect Gary Pinkel to live in the 5-7 to 7-5 bubble for 4 or 5 years until he wants to walk away. Any new coach is wishful thinking.

But its ****ing Mizzou, we will **** it up, book it. lol

And neither can I...having seen how bad they have been over the last few years, they even make MU look good.

1.) No, clearly you don't "get" what it means for the Lauries to go away.

2.) Petrino isn't the only coach out there that can win games at Missouri.

Here's where I think the biggest gap in our thoughts on this is:

You think Bobby Petrino would be just as successful at Missouri as he was at Arkansas. I believe he would NOT be as successful because of the huge hits his reputation has taken. For a guy who already was not a recruiting dynamo, that will just be crippling.

I don't think I'm alone in that assessment. If other ADs thought he could be as successful now as he was at Arkansas, he'd be the head coach at Auburn, Tennessee or Kentucky right now.

I don't care about warm and fuzzies. Not hiring Bobby Petrino doesn't mean I want to hire a numb nuts like Paul Rhoads who "does it right" and is a "Leader of men" and mediocre football coach (Sorry, RustShack). It just means that Petrino is not - and should - happen.