Dane I grew up in the shawnee mission school district and went there through middle school...I attended many games for west and east...maybe a handful of those guys were running 4.5's...the champaign school districts weren't as big that's for sure...but I played with many college athletes...hell I could have gone to kaskaskia cc as a preferred walk on in baseball but didn't...this is the same argument I have with the guy I referenced early who put up mike alstott high school numbers...he thinks he ran a 4.5 too...while me and my other roommate mock him about it because its just not true.

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Only if your coach is a reerun. I played 4 years of HS, and attended a football camp, and never saw any coaches who didn't try their best to record accurate times. What would be the point? They are taking records to assess players. What would be the benefit of running 40s if they weren't going to try and record accurate times.
Player height, and weight listings are skewed sometimes, but how in the world does that have any ties to performance records.
They don't list a players forty times for the fans, or opposing coaches.
That would be like a coaches marking down a player as maxing out in bench at 300 when he only lifted 250. Not to mention there are two different coaches clocking players at the same time. What, do they decide before a player runs that they are going to shave .2 seconds off a players times before he even runs?

All I'm saying is...high school coaches promote their players as they are supposed to...a 4.4 is usually more like a 4.6...etc etc etc and thinking differently is god damn naive...4.5 speed is as rare as a 90 mph fastball...I was a damn good baseball player for years and years and years...and I faced 90 mph heat a handful of times, tops...and I played year round.

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i used them for 3 days helping my carpenter/friend do the ceilings of our new house. finally, i had to quit. my asshole dropped down to ankle level. damn!
respect.
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Also great for x-mass decorating :thumb:

Roids hanging like grapes...YEP
You do get used to it after a few years, like any repetative movement job occupation.

Alstott ran a 4.66 at the combine. It's not out of the realm of reality that he could have run a high 4.5 in HS before he added another 25 lbs of muscle.

The point is, Hootie, is that if everyone was being timed by their coaches at 4.5, it was accurate for the day. We didn't have the sophistication that exists today, but that doesn't make those times inaccurate.

My senior year in high school, we had two guys run a 4.5. One went on to be a starting safety at Coffeyville and the other quit mid-season and never played football again.

Fast forward 30 years and running 4.5 in high school is so common it's ridiculous. Look at Jadevon Clowney for instance. NO ONE and I mean NO ONE I ever met or played against in the early 80's looked like that, including Rodney Peete.

same color as grapes too...whoa.
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Yes it is...he ran a 4.8..tops and our coaches fed his ego by timing him at 4.5...plain and simple...and a 4.8 is damn fast for a bull like him

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This is so incorrect, it's not even funny.

We had at least 20 players at the football camp that I attended that ran LEGIT laser timed 40s. in the 4.5 range.

Sounds to me like shit coaches. Did he play in college?

This. It Legitimately happens every day.

He got a full ride to a juco to play baseball...his pop time was incredible...back injuries derailed his baseball career but darin fletcher told him he had big league potential if he kept working

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Yep. Sounds to me like Hootie's coaches were just full of shit, and he thinks that is the norm.