Ok name the guys. I'll wait. Junior Seau shot himself in the chest. Outside of him name the guys that killed themselves, compared to how many guys that have played in the league and what that percentage is. Especially just compared to the general population.

Seoncd, you don't know my sample size. Last year I spent a whole weekend working with over 60 players out in Texas. You don't know shit about me dickhead. You're some blowhard that literally knows nothing about this.

Furthermore, you missed my point. I don't care what the players get. If they want to chase the money that's fine. But the idiotic comments about how they have to get tens of millions now to setup generational wealth or somehow their grandchildren will live in poverty is some shit that poster children for mental poverty would say.

And anyone saying 5 million isn't enough to finish your life on doesn't know shit about money. Period. And I clear 2 million a year.

In that scenario, you:

Cut Thuney. June 1st if you need too.
Let Smith walk.
Bring back Bolton and Humphrey unless they want to break the bank.

You also have to assume that Kelce is going to retire at some point. That could be after 2024 which would take his cap hit off the books.

Joe Thuney is a really expensive guard you should be able to move off that by then.

Bottom line, we are going to lose a lot of quality back ups and or core players.

I think it comes down to...

Is Chiefs ownership prepared to hand out $40M in a signing bonus to Patrick Mahomes this year? And then do it again in 25? And again in 26? And again in 27? And in 2028, spend big cash on his "last" contract?

I don't see why they wouldn't be willing to do that.

Veach needs to nail the LT position long term this offseason given the uncertainty at all 3 IOL positions we'll be facing soon.

Well Clark has been way more into spending money than Lamar was.

I was just talking to my wife during Clark's speech after the game regarding how PM has elevated KC on a national, if not global, landscape.

It's no stretch to argue that Patrick Mahomes is a BILLION dollar windfall for the Hunt family (and KC writ large).

I don't think they Hunts are hurting for cash or prospective creditors. The money is there and Hunt's typically been willing to spend it. I don't imagine this would be much different.

Surely some players will take a little less money to threepeat

I mean yea something else to think about is all the extra playoff revenue, Mahomes, Kelce even the Swift hype, the Chiefs are likely so much more profitable than ever before.

How much, of say, a 1B stadium renovation will they be looking at as well

This is true but at worst we've drafted a blue chip caliber caliber player and strong contributing player each draft the last 4 years.

Sneed, Gay
Bolton, Creed
McDuffie (or Karlaftis) and whichever of the many strong contributors you fancy
Rice, Conner

If Veach keeps hitting like this the cap won't be a major problem

Shooting themselves in the head was hyperbole. If you believe players don't suffer from CTE, advanced/earlier arthritis, mental health issues due to the nature of their jobs than I don't know what to tell you :shrug: But there's a boatload of evidence out there if you want to google. All or most of which could have a detrimental affect on both future earnings potential or cost of living.

I stated, quite clearly, I DON'T KNOW YOUR SAMPLE SIZE. You've apparently talked to 60 former players...congrats! That probably 0.01% of retired players in the Super Bowl era. Don't think that hits like you thought it did.

If your point is that it's possible to live on $5M for the rest of your life, then ok I guess. A lot of people could make that work. Does that mean these guys shouldn't try to maximize their earnings? Help their extended family and set up their kids? Live with luxuries and not want to worry about ever working again? They're the absolute best in the world at a job that maybe 1 in a million is talented enough to have. And here you are bitching that they shouldn't reap the benefit or try to leverage their talent and hard work into as much of a reward as they possibly can in the small timeframe that window is open. All while crossing their fingers they don't get an injury that knocks them out of the league 5 years earlier than they were hoping.

Again...no idea what you do. Don't give a shit. Hopefully its not in finance. High five for making so much money though. That's really cool and helped your argument.

Think about this...

If we bring back Jones, Sneed, then get one legit WR in FA, that's enough to run it back, 3peat. That's not even counting the draft in April. Amazing! LMAO