Or, if PJW doesn't do it for you....

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anguish of a fractured mind leading to violence AKA Columbine shooting if you want to stretch it for pussies

This makes me want to see this movie. From the previews that I have been seeing a lot in the past month, I didn't think I would care that much. But now, it seems that this may be worth checking out.

Really good movie. Go see it.

He's about 10 months older than I am. I thought he was at least ten years older.

He has always looked a bit older than he actually is. Guy has had a crazy life.

I enjoyed the film. Not what I would consider a 'must see' but it's worth a rental. It did have one of the funniest knock knock jokes that I've heard in quite a while but I'm kind of a sick puppy with my taste in humor.

I was surprised he was 44. He looks old as shit in this movie.

It's not a super hero movie. Some don't realize that and trash it. Some wanted more action. More "stuff" to happen. More Batman etc. etc.

It doesn't make it crystal clear when reality is occurring and when its in the Jokers mind. You figure it out on your own but the Director assumes your an intelligent being and he doesn't have to put huge blinking signs up when we are in the Jokers mind and when its the movies reality.

This is mainly a movie about one mans decent into his madness and what happens when he looses his grip on reality. It didn't have to be a joker movie. Phoenix's performance of that descent is why you go see this movie.

Actors have said playing a crazy person is too hard because it either comes off as cartoonish or you back off and then it doesn't really show the depth and menace of mental illness. You WILL believe Phoenix is really crazy. Hope someone is checking on his welfare after playing this role.

So I didnt enjoy the movie. Its not a movie that is enjoyable. Its fascinating? Maybe thats a better word but its a very sad dark film thats main purpose is to spread awareness of self pity and mental illness...and kind of championing it?

I don't think that was the main purpose. They just wanted to tell a story

Do you think that was their main purpose?

Phoenix actually says he has no issue after he's done with a role. You should watch some of his interviews, he's totally not into the Hollywood star image.. totally straight shooter

Well, nevermind:

https://nypost.com/2019/10/14/joker-...ture-releases/

Saw it last weekend. Films like this should wake people up to many things, to some of us it may very well have.
To others unfortunately it's just a movie.
When you see a film where on one hand you can relate to the "bad guy" and on the other you wish this wasnt the reality for some people.
This movie wasnt just entertainment, it was an outstanding film that hopefully means more going forward.