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BWillie 02-14-2024 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 17403273)
Ian Miles Cheong is a known propagandist/liar and there's no evidence those guys are the shooters. As I pointed out earlier, none of them were dressed like the guy who got tackled. Unless they let him change his pants, the tackled dude had grey sweats on. We have enough baseless propaganda on the internet, don't need to spread it here.

This was a different "fight" in a different area before. Might have started the later deadly altercation between the two groups/gangs. Might be totally unrelated.

Valiant 02-14-2024 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17403227)
I still want to know what happened to the goat.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Someone gave Isiah Pacheco an actual goat at the Chiefs Super Bowl victory parade! <a href="https://t.co/Sh249xguAU">pic.twitter.com/Sh249xguAU</a></p>&mdash; KMBC (@kmbc) <a href="https://twitter.com/kmbc/status/1757843971496190362?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Goat is home. Back with the owner. She posted on Facebook. It was hilarious. Her goat is more famous than her now.

Lzen 02-14-2024 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 17403301)
Well, I doubt they made the gun. It didn't just immaculately concept itself. Someone bought that gun legally.

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Or stole it. Or bought it on the black market.

Lzen 02-14-2024 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 17403324)
Goat is home. Back with the owner. She posted on Facebook. It was hilarious. Her goat is more famous than her now.

What the heck?

Why?

ROFL

ghak99 02-14-2024 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 17403124)
Looks like the safest thing to do is change your race to Asian.

Passport bro??

alanm 02-14-2024 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 17403301)
Well, I doubt they made the gun. It didn't just immaculately concept itself. Someone bought that gun legally.

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Before it was stolen.

KCUnited 02-14-2024 07:06 PM

2 hours ago the police chief corroborates that she heard the story of a Chiefs fan tackling one of the suspects

A few minutes ago dude gives an interview on NFLN talking about extracting a weapon from a suspect and says he has had zero contact from police

People are impressed by their response

mr. tegu 02-14-2024 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 17403301)
Well, I doubt they made the gun. It didn't just immaculately concept itself. Someone bought that gun legally.

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The chances it was legally purchased by whom ever gave it away is basically 0. But you know this.

RaidersOftheCellar 02-14-2024 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 17403208)
How about cars and alcohol. They kill.

It’s pretty simple…the criminals and gangs will always have guns. Will disarming the rest make us safer?

alanm 02-14-2024 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17403325)
Or stole it. Or bought it on the black market.

Damn it. Beat me to it.

srvy 02-14-2024 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 17403093)
The guy in the pic is wearing black pants. The guy who got tackled was wearing grey sweats.


I think those black pants look like tactical or uniform slacks. Maybe a cop standing over evidence and wanting to leave it undisturbed. Plus backpacks make good concealment of pressure cooker bombs.

kstater 02-14-2024 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17403339)
It’s pretty simple…the criminals and gangs will always have guns. Will disarming the rest make us safer?

Well, yes. Assault weapon ban in 94 reduced mass shootings by 46%. When it lapsed in 2004, they rose 245%. But it's pretty simple no?

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T-post Tom 02-14-2024 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17403277)
Those aren’t the suspects. People said those guys were arrested up the parade route unrelated

The guy in the gray hoodie appears to have been tackled where the guns are shown. And he was shown being loaded into the paddy wagon wearing the same clothes. Seems cut and dry based on the videos. But these situations are fluid and who knows what lands where.

WhawhaWhat 02-14-2024 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by R Clark (Post 17403195)
You are one of dumbest sob I’ve ever read on the internet. Guns don’t kill people do. You @@@@ reerun . I was at the parade today with my 10 yr old grandson and a 45 . You can kiss my ass if you try to disarm me .i pack cause of dunbasses like you

Throwing temper tantrums on internet message boards is the calling card of intelligent people.

TEX 02-14-2024 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 17403347)
Well, yes. Assault weapon ban in 94 reduced mass shootings by 46%. When it lapsed in 2004, they rose 245%. But it's pretty simple no?

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Now do the stats for Chicago, where the most strict gun laws in the country are. Does the defination of simple change?

Smed1065 02-14-2024 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ming the Merciless (Post 17402834)
what if they un-mask the shooter and its




RAY LEWIS


https://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img...ng&w=350&h=254


CharvariusWard

Titty Meat 02-14-2024 07:19 PM

The majority in record homicides this year were committed with hand guns. The mayor will dodge the issue completely and just blame it on guns and nobody will ask him about any of the data I presented

Chiefshrink 02-14-2024 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17403352)
Now do the stats for Chicago, where the most strict gun laws in the country are. Did u change your defination of simple?

COMMON SENSE RULES !!!


AMEN BROTHER !!

SurroundedByMorons 02-14-2024 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17403351)
Throwing temper tantrums on internet message boards is the calling card of intelligent people.

HE'S TOTALLY SERIOUS BRO!

Calcountry 02-14-2024 07:21 PM

My heartfealt condolences to my fellow Chiefs fans out there. I couldn’t believe it when someone said, did you hear about the shooting in Kansas City’s parade?

Stay safe.

IowaHawkeyeChief 02-14-2024 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 17403103)
If only Jesus had spent 7 million on gun control instead of super bowl ads this wouldn't have happened.

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Yea, because throwing money at the problem has worked since the 60's :rolleyes:

KC_Lee 02-14-2024 07:22 PM

So What if this area of town is just cursed?
1933; Union Station Massacre
1981; Hyatt Regency walkway collapse
2024; Chiefs' Parade Shooting

KingPriest2 02-14-2024 07:22 PM

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This was on X

Pants 02-14-2024 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17403079)
Yea you know what this thread needs ridiculous conspiracy theory about the occult.

The most reeruned conspiracy theory ever too. It's not even an upside down cross, it's like a snowflake design or something. LMAO

Frazod 02-14-2024 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bdj23 (Post 17403278)
AR pistol with a 40-50 rd mag. Also pretty sure that foregrip is another felony.

Yeah, you can see the impression in the backpack where the buffer tube was sticking up. It barely fit.

One surprising thing here is that the bulge should have put up a red flag to anybody who is familiar with this type of firearm. If I see that at an event like this, I'm going to immediately flag down a cop and let him know. Hard to believe this punk was milling around in a crowd of thousands and nobody picked up on it.

WilliamTheIrish 02-14-2024 07:23 PM

Channel 9 reporting that there are still parents trying to locate kids.

Pablo 02-14-2024 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17403361)
The majority in record homicides this year were committed with hand guns. The mayor will dodge the issue completely and just blame it on guns and nobody will ask him about any of the data I presented

He doesn’t have to say anything. He is in no danger of losing voters due to inaction

ptlyon 02-14-2024 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 17403374)
Channel 9 reporting that there are still parents trying to locate kids.

Doesn't that happen everywhere?

srvy 02-14-2024 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17403319)
Interns are tracking down a key eye witness for over the air interviews before investigators

This is how far a once proud KCPD has fallen.

dirk digler 02-14-2024 07:33 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The group of 5 had masks &amp; hoodies on.<br><br>Says he thought it was over as the groups started walking away from each other.<br><br>That&#39;s when one of the group of 5 turned back, pointed his book bag toward the larger men &amp; opened fire.<br><br>Says it sounded like a fully automatic gun.</p>&mdash; Samuel Stueve III 🎙 (@6ftSamIII) <a href="https://twitter.com/6ftSamIII/status/1757895107347378448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

srvy 02-14-2024 07:35 PM

I guess we can kiss the Saint Patrick's Day Parade and Snake Saturday as officially gone now.

Eleazar 02-14-2024 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17403282)
Is anyone dumb enough to believe these are actually the suspects?

That account is one of the largest disinformation accounts on Twitter, and no, obviously those are not the guys or they wouldn’t be casually loading them up with just two or three cops around

suzzer99 02-14-2024 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 17403346)
I think those black pants look like tactical or uniform slacks. Maybe a cop standing over evidence and wanting to leave it undisturbed. Plus backpacks make good concealment of pressure cooker bombs.

No I'm talking about the black pants in the picture with the kids in front of the paddy wagon.

Eleazar 02-14-2024 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17403386)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The group of 5 had masks &amp; hoodies on.<br><br>Says he thought it was over as the groups started walking away from each other.<br><br>That&#39;s when one of the group of 5 turned back, pointed his book bag toward the larger men &amp; opened fire.<br><br>Says it sounded like a fully automatic gun.</p>&mdash; Samuel Stueve III 🎙 (@6ftSamIII) <a href="https://twitter.com/6ftSamIII/status/1757895107347378448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The old “respect issue” I guess.

dirk digler 02-14-2024 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 17403348)
The guy in the gray hoodie appears to have been tackled where the guns are shown. And he was shown being loaded into the paddy wagon wearing the same clothes. Seems cut and dry based on the videos. But these situations are fluid and who knows what lands where.

The guy tackled with a gun was wearing a tan jacket as shown below.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Glad I could help catch him! <a href="https://t.co/enDcmXdud9">pic.twitter.com/enDcmXdud9</a></p>&mdash; TonyMiike (@Tony_J4Y) <a href="https://twitter.com/Tony_J4Y/status/1757874053270982754?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

suzzer99 02-14-2024 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17403373)
Yeah, you can see the impression in the backpack where the buffer tube was sticking up. It barely fit.

One surprising thing here is that the bulge should have put up a red flag to anybody who is familiar with this type of firearm. If I see that at an event like this, I'm going to immediately flag down a cop and let him know. Hard to believe this punk was milling around in a crowd of thousands and nobody picked up on it.

Can the buffer tube be screwed on and off easily? If so they may only have attached it right before the shooting, but not had time to disassemble it afterwards.

jerryaldini 02-14-2024 07:38 PM

Just seeing this, incredibly sad. Were the players still on the parade route?

New World Order 02-14-2024 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17403386)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The group of 5 had masks &amp; hoodies on.<br><br>Says he thought it was over as the groups started walking away from each other.<br><br>That&#39;s when one of the group of 5 turned back, pointed his book bag toward the larger men &amp; opened fire.<br><br>Says it sounded like a fully automatic gun.</p>&mdash; Samuel Stueve III �� (@6ftSamIII) <a href="https://twitter.com/6ftSamIII/status/1757895107347378448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Seems like the most plausable explanation

IowaHawkeyeChief 02-14-2024 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 17403374)
Channel 9 reporting that there are still parents trying to locate kids.

So I am guessing teenagers?

Eleazar 02-14-2024 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 17403401)
Just seeing this, incredibly sad. Were the players still on the parade route?

It was after the rally ended

wazu 02-14-2024 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 17403406)
It was after the rally ended

Yes but players were still dancing on stage.

suzzer99 02-14-2024 07:41 PM

That seems like a pretty intense response to a random altercation. Either those kids came packing serious heat in their backpacks for fun, or that guy was a target.

R Clark 02-14-2024 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17403410)
Yes but players were still dancing on stage.

I don’t think so

FloridaMan88 02-14-2024 07:44 PM

Cleveland Cavaliers home game tonight…

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGVpbBTX...jpg&name=large

KingPriest2 02-14-2024 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by R Clark (Post 17403414)
I don’t think so

They were still on stage

jerryaldini 02-14-2024 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 17403406)
It was after the rally ended

Thanks, glad they got to have it. Even more tragic when these things happen where the innocent are just trying to celebrate things that are good about the world.

jerryaldini 02-14-2024 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KingPriest2 (Post 17403419)
They were still on stage

Holy shit

R Clark 02-14-2024 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingPriest2 (Post 17403419)
They were still on stage

You were there? Cause I was and I didn’t see it that way

suzzer99 02-14-2024 07:48 PM

So what it seems like might have happened based on piecing everything together:
  1. 5 teenagers, 15-ish, get into an altercation outside with two older guys.
  2. Teenagers seem to walk away then one of them shoots the guy through his backpack.
  3. This guy dies, unclear how much collateral damage other than one bystander teen in a Chiefs jersey shot in the leg. I assume the CPR was being done on the teens' original target.
  4. Maybe the other older guy (who else would it be?) somehow chases the teens to the Union Station Parking garage, where 5 minutes later another gun fight ensues.
  5. Someone shoots off one of the teen's jaws, the teens scatter, try to hide their guns in their backpacks, two of them get apprehended.

Titty Meat 02-14-2024 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 17403401)
Just seeing this, incredibly sad. Were the players still on the parade route?

No they were in union station which wasn't too far away from the shooting

KingPriest2 02-14-2024 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Clark (Post 17403428)
You were there? Cause I was and I didn’t see it that way

It was on all the tv statins. They were o. Stage

Lzen 02-14-2024 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 17403421)
Nope.

This has gone far enough. I’m done accepting this as a citizen of this country.

Anyone who wants to stick their head in the sand and keep accepting dead children can kiss my ass. Again, I’m not saying take all the guns away. I’m saying find a common sense solution that at least drastically reduces the risk of this happening.

Doing nothing is just asinine at this point.

Actually, no you're not.
I've found over the years that anyone who says they want common sense solutions don't really want that. They just want to make it harder or impossible for law abiding citizens to acquire guns. In other words, GTFO!

R Clark 02-14-2024 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 17403421)
Nope.

This has gone far enough. I’m done accepting this as a citizen of this country.

Anyone who wants to stick their head in the sand and keep accepting dead children can kiss my ass. Again, I’m not saying take all the guns away. I’m saying find a common sense solution that at least drastically reduces the risk of this happening.

Doing nothing is just asinine at this point.

No wants to see anyone dead let alone are kids, I had my 10 yr old grandson with me you think I want him in harms way? But people who are going to do this dumb shit don’t care about laws , laws that are passed fall on deaf ears. clean up society is the only answer. I went to a rual high school and everyone had shotguns and rifles in their vehicles but no one got shot or mass shootiings. Things have changed ,I am 65 yrs old and this shit didn’t happen when I was growing up I’ll leave to you to figure out what is different today

smithandrew051 02-14-2024 07:58 PM

This thread took a predictable turn.

We should really have a separate DC on the parade for these discussions, so this one can stay focused on actual updates.

Rainbarrel 02-14-2024 07:58 PM

They could just have easily told those kids. They had no balls if the didn't shoot arsenic into unattended baby bottles

TambaBerry 02-14-2024 07:59 PM

Come on mods, take out the trash please.

SHOWTIME 02-14-2024 08:00 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">KC Chiefs Super Fan and Mom killed today at KC Victory Parade..<a href="https://t.co/KYfxroLJLp">https://t.co/KYfxroLJLp</a></p>&mdash; BREAKING NEWZ Alert (@MustReadNewz) <a href="https://twitter.com/MustReadNewz/status/1757946913297445318?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

New World Order 02-14-2024 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17403459)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">KC Chiefs Super Fan and Mom killed today at KC Victory Parade..<a href="https://t.co/KYfxroLJLp">https://t.co/KYfxroLJLp</a></p>&mdash; BREAKING NEWZ Alert (@MustReadNewz) <a href="https://twitter.com/MustReadNewz/status/1757946913297445318?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Seemed like such a great Mom and person.

So ****ing sad.

comochiefsfan 02-14-2024 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17403459)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">KC Chiefs Super Fan and Mom killed today at KC Victory Parade..<a href="https://t.co/KYfxroLJLp">https://t.co/KYfxroLJLp</a></p>&mdash; BREAKING NEWZ Alert (@MustReadNewz) <a href="https://twitter.com/MustReadNewz/status/1757946913297445318?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So sad and senseless.

suzzer99 02-14-2024 08:02 PM

****ing hell.

srvy 02-14-2024 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 17403394)
No I'm talking about the black pants in the picture with the kids in front of the paddy wagon.

ok

TLO 02-14-2024 08:22 PM

This thread

LEEEEEEEEEROOOOOOOOOOY JEENNNNNNKINS

Bearcat 02-14-2024 08:29 PM

Yeah, if we could somehow keep this thread to news about the shooting and not using the tragedy to prop up your own personal soapbox on gun control or anything else you want to shout at clouds about for the millionth time (we get it, we've all heard it), that would be great.... we have a forum specifically for the tone deaf, use that one instead. thx.

The Franchise 02-14-2024 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17403499)
Yeah, if we could somehow keep this thread to news about the shooting and not using the tragedy to prop up your own personal soapbox on gun control or anything else you want to shout at clouds about for the millionth time (we get it, we've all heard it), that would be great.... we have a forum specifically for the tone deaf, use that one instead. thx.

FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT!!!

Only joking.

Dunerdr 02-14-2024 08:31 PM

This parade was shit before this. Complete different vibe from the previous two. I saw 3-4 fights, tons of pushing and shoving in crowds and people just acting plain stupid in front of and around kids. The last two really felt like celebrations. This felt like kids and adults were in the way of teens and twenties people getting to a rave. I’m only 34 and felt like I was at a multi school high school party. A lot of peacocking and just rude people.

Edit I see this threads already off the rails. Just dropping my .02

The Franchise 02-14-2024 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17403502)
This parade was shit before this. Complete different vibe from the previous two. I saw 3-4 fights, tons of pushing and shoving in crowds and people just acting plain stupid in front of and around kids. The last two really felt like celebrations. This felt like kids and adults were in the way of teens and twenties people getting to a rave. I’m only 34 and felt like I was at a multi school high school party. A lot of peacocking and just rude people.

Sooooooo sports fans? Because that’s a lot of what this is.

KCUnited 02-14-2024 08:32 PM

Murica’s Team

blake5676 02-14-2024 08:33 PM

[QUOTE=Woogieman;17403486]
Quote:

Originally Posted by blake5676 (Post 17403479)
Did you know that it’s legal for kids under 18 to open carry in Missouri?

"Open carry and concealed carry are legal in Missouri without a Concealed Carry Permit (CCP) for anyone 19 years or older who can legally possess a firearm (18 for members of the military or honorably discharged). However, local authorities can restrict concealed carry in any building owned, leased or controlled.

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/res.../mo-gun-laws/d by the county or municipality and may require a CCP for open carry"

https://apnews.com/article/politics-...f938c8cb587786

ChiTown 02-14-2024 08:33 PM

This thread was so ****ing predictable. Shame on y’all.

Dunerdr 02-14-2024 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17403505)
Sooooooo sports fans? Because that’s a lot of what this is.

Well I guess there weren’t sports fans at the last ones. Any time a line stopped shit turned into a mosh pit. Never had any problems at the other two. Saw a father with his son on his shoulders just get pushed down to the ground before the parade started. If that’s sports fans to you we must be going to different games.

IowaHawkeyeChief 02-14-2024 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blake5676 (Post 17403479)
Did you know that it’s legal for kids under 18 to open carry in Missouri? And cops are handcuffed often in situations where they discover minors in possessions of guns in terms of charging them? It’s something that MANY cops that I know have a major issue with yet our legislators don’t try to help at all.

Not trying to make a political statement, but we certainly have SOME things that could be done to help at least somewhat.

So having a fully automatic inside a back pack is illegal, right?

Nirvana58 02-14-2024 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dabergtobirden (Post 17403490)
not trying to get in huge internet fight, just asking - what's the argument for why we allow assault rifles/high capacity weapons or at least don't heavily regulate?

again not trying to start a fight. assume that's what these kids used. if they had handguns the collateral damage would be mitigated.

Dude if this isn't bait. There is so much wrong in that statement.

Seriously ask that question in DC and there is a lot of people that would be more than happy to elaborate.

Easy 6 02-14-2024 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17403506)
These were the two posts. Sure. :rolleyes:

You're the one pounding that drum

ghak99 02-14-2024 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dabergtobirden (Post 17403490)
not trying to get in huge internet fight, just asking - what's the argument for why we allow assault rifles/high capacity weapons or at least don't heavily regulate?

again not trying to start a fight. assume that's what these kids used. if they had handguns the collateral damage would be mitigated.

You'll have to take the first question to the DC thread.

I assume you don't realize pistols can have 50 round mags and be easily modified to be full auto. You're not mitigating any damage by limiting the tool to only pistols. One of the weapons pictured, assuming they were what was actually used, is actually a pistol by definition. The other may be as well, but it's hard to tell by the picture provided.

The Franchise 02-14-2024 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Ten Beers (Post 17403517)
You're the one pounding that drum

Totally not the yellow posts defending guns well before my posts.

Graystoke 02-14-2024 08:36 PM

Just catching up and didn’t read the whole thread. What did I miss?

Woogieman 02-14-2024 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17403492)
What about the mass murderers who had fathers?

There will always be a small percent of deranged members of every society...every society has had a mass murderer or serial killer. We have no choice but to endure a certain level of derangement. What we do particularly poorly is actually encounter school children with clear signs of psychiatric issues...we push psychotropic drugs on them and hope they make it through the school year and become someone else's problem. Time and time again, there were clear signs of sociopathic behavior that go unadressed by overpaid paper-pushers.

ChiefsCountry 02-14-2024 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graystoke (Post 17403520)
Just catching up and didn’t read the whole thread. What did I miss?

First part - what happened
Second part - pretty much figure out its teen gang bangers who did it
Third part - gun control debate

dabergtobirden 02-14-2024 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghak99 (Post 17403518)
You'll have to take the first question to the DC thread.

I assume you don't realize pistols can have 50 round mags and be easily modified to be full auto. You're not mitigating any damage by limiting the tool to only pistols. One of the weapons pictured, assuming they were what was actually used, is actually a pistol by definition. The other may be as well, but it's hard to tell by the picture provided.

thanks and fair enough - was honestly asking and will move discussion.

IowaHawkeyeChief 02-14-2024 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17403502)
This parade was shit before this. Complete different vibe from the previous two. I saw 3-4 fights, tons of pushing and shoving in crowds and people just acting plain stupid in front of and around kids. The last two really felt like celebrations. This felt like kids and adults were in the way of teens and twenties people getting to a rave. I’m only 34 and felt like I was at a multi school high school party. A lot of peacocking and just rude people.

Edit I see this threads already off the rails. Just dropping my .02

mid 60's in February brought out everybody. Most who are idiots won't brave the cold.


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