A disturbing trend has started when we shit on our qb after a win when he makes a highlight reel play to seal it.

Guy threw for like 800 yards in a game in college and lost. He's never been worried about numbers, he just wants to win.

This offensive unit has been out of sorts all season. It's not just Patrick. Brown gets blown by like he's standing still, revolving door at rt, trash running backs, guys dropping EASY PASSES RIGHT IN THEIR ****ING HANDS,, a slew of fumbles, tip drills, and interceptions, all exacerbated by a historically terrible defense.

I'm sure the wide open Kelce play everyone shitting on Mahomes is fapping to, Kelce got in his ear in the huddle, because very next play what happens? Pat goes right to him and Kelce drops the ****ing football. Then Tyreek slips for the 8 thousandth time this season with his shitty cleats and we are 3 n out.

But the blame is all on Pat for trying a deep shot to Hardman on first down.

K.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I was totally depressed the entire Chiefs game… until that final play. Patrick Mahomes looked like Patrick Mahomes for the first time in a month. <br><br>I truly believe that singular throw is going to snap him out of this funk. <a href="https://t.co/6p0PGidrje">https://t.co/6p0PGidrje</a></p>&mdash; nick wright (@getnickwright) <a href="https://twitter.com/getnickwright/status/1457699280475590659?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

oh itEven in the Super Bowl he made a heroic throw as he was sideways mid air throwing thirty yards into the end zone hitting his target but dropped. That to me was the play of the game and I love Patrick for making that play even if it wasn't caught it was a HOF throw.

QBs get more credit than they should and they also get more blame than they should when things go bad. It's just how it is.

He's got a HOF offensive minded HC, HOF TE, and HOF WR. He's got plenty of help. He's been playing like shit lately. He will snap out of it. I've got confidence in him. But anyone saying he hasn't been playing like trash is just in denial.

I agree that Kelce has been off as well but it starts w QB.
Hard to get in a rhythm when QB is constantly throwing the ball either too high, behind, or just a plain overthrow.

Anyone wanting to bench Mahomes is insane. Anyone who can't figure out what's going on isn't very perceptive. It's really not complicated.

He just needs to be a little less Favre right now, and a little more Tom Brady and all will be fine.

Defenses are betting on him being the gunslinger who will ignore the easy first down to go for the home run ball. So he needs to make them pay for that. And he will, sooner or later.

By the way, you guys throwing out that 4. whatever ypa stat-you do realize that the deep ball incompletions count in that percentage, right? as well as the low completion percentage. That says- too many low percentage passes attempted. So your argument against the short/intermediate passing game is actually not helped by the stats.

Mahomes can't do anything about the drops, but he can do something about the low completion percentage, which will in turn raise the YPA, which will in turn result in more first downs, which will in turn create more scoring opportunities.

A little less Favre, a little more Brady.

It'll be fine. Eventually. When Mahomes can keep himself disciplined a little more often. The deep shots will open up again shortly after.

From NFL.com...

The Patrick Mahomes slump is real: We've moved past the point of wondering when the Kansas City Chiefs star quarterback is going to return to his typical form and dominate the NFL again. There is something legitimately off about Mahomes, and it's a source of concern for those within the Chiefs organization. He's thrown two touchdown passes and two interceptions in his last three games. He's averaged 215.7 passing yards in those contests and accounted for all of 166 passing yards in Sunday's 13-7 win over Green Bay. Overall, the Chiefs have scored just 36 points in their last three outings. The upside is, they've won two of those (against the Giants and Packers). The downside is, those victories came against teams led by quarterbacks named Daniel Jones and Jordan Love. There have been so many issues with the Chiefs' offense -- from shaky offensive tackles to defenses containing Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce to a league-high 19 turnovers -- that it's been easy to assume this unit has been dragging Mahomes down. That isn't the case anymore. He's literally playing the worst football of his career. He's missing open receivers, failing to take opportunities for checkdowns when they arise and, most importantly, looking as joyless as he's ever appeared on a football field at this level. The Chiefs have been good enough to survive lately with him slumping. The reality is, they aren't going to beat the best teams in the league unless their quarterback starts performing at a high level again.

Truth.

His bum ankle happened during a completely different part of the season. His slump happened after he came back healthy from his knee injury -- which again showcases how you and many Chiefs fans do not remember how bad Pat's slump was in this time.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A lot to unpack here. The Chiefs are working a deep concept to the field side with Hill and Watkins. Mahomes exits a clean pocket to his right, away from the concept. He makes a bad play worse trying to throw across the field to Watkins. Should have been an INT. Rough sequence. <a href="https://t.co/PpvrnPfNBO">pic.twitter.com/PpvrnPfNBO</a></p>&mdash; Kent Swanson (@kent_swanson) <a href="https://twitter.com/kent_swanson/status/1201918672815763457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Does this sound familiar or nah?

We'll keep it going, this time from The Athletic.

From another source...

Mahomes was not good during that time, and played very similarly to how he is now. But as you yourself have demonstrated, this has largely been forgotten by KC fans.

I read this today as well. They have a legitimate point in saying that he looks joyless playing the game. I have seen a couple videos of Mahomes looking like a beaten man while out with his girl and brother. During the last game I thought I saw him barking at Reid from the field. Am I remembering that correctly? Obviously, something is off.

Watch his press conferences. Watch MIC'd up. His attitude is fine.

When I learn how to make gif's I might do some of these.

First drive and Mahomes isn't even looking at Gordon. To me you have throw the ball to him he is so big and has good leverage. Mahomes just chucks it out of bounds.

He's constantly barking at the sidelines, usually for them to get the ****ing play call in. Andy has been calling plays like he's in a diabetic coma this season.

He's always got his hand up, motioning for them to hurry up with the playcall.

It also doesn't help trying to lock Pat in a box he doesn't belong in. Past three years what is the number one defensive key on Mahomes?

DO NOT LET THIS KID OUTSIDE THE POCKET OR HE WILL DESTROY YOU.

So, in typical Chiefs fashion, we do the defenses job for them by demanding he stay in the pocket.

It's not who he is or what he does. Let the kid play football. Get some bootlegs going, rollouts, moving pocket, etc.

The guy is deadly when he's on the move. He delivered amazing, nigh unstoppable results. We can plainly see what is happening forcing him to be a pocket passer.

He's a gunslinger, not a statue.

Thought this was kind of interesting on the challenges and where blame lies. Pretty much as most have said to be fair - some Pat, some the OL, some shitty officiating of horrendous holding on Kelce - https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-kansas-...vis-kelce-2021

This is just an absolutely false narrative. It's like people forget what Patrick Mahomes looked like when he had full trust in his line and would brilliantly glide throughout the pocket as he evaded a pass rush.

Mahomes is better when he is in the pocket and he keeps his eyes down field, but recently he's not scanning the field for his receivers. Instead, he's got his eyes on the guys attempting to rush him. He has no trust that his guy will win and so hes running to avoid nothing. Since he is too busy worrying about phantom pass rush and leaving a clean pocket he isn't seeing any of his open receivers until it's basically too late and he tries to throw it 100 mph to his target before that guy is no longer open. Being on the run while trying to force the ball to a guy that may not even be opened anymore is causing him to throw short or if he does get it there our guys are having a hard time catching his heaters, which leads to ints.

He is the best at escaping an actual pass rush, buying time for a receiver to get opened, and setting his feet right before he completes an incredible throw. He is however still better when he stays in the pocket. Defenses knew that he was almost just as good when they were getting pressure as he was when he was staying in the pocket. The D coordinators said "**** it", stopped blitzing and decided to drop everyone back, because the more guys they have in coverage the better chance they had to cover the WRs and be in his throwing lanes.

Up until the last few games he was making them pay and still scoring at will with an occasional turnover, but recently he doesn't trust his line and is just running for no reason and making terrible throws. He's just currently in his head, but all it's gonna take is one monster game this weekend to awaken a beast.

Back to the main point. No he was not better when he improvised. People have just forgotten how good he was in the pocket.

**** you Pete you didn't take my bet you ****ing coward

This is the thread that turned the season around!!!!! Thank u Pete!!!!!

Pete you are a ****ing coward

Pete going to Pete

Tell me this isn't his best game of the season? And really dodged a pick but okay...still....his best game...looks like the old Patrick

dude puts up.a 40 burger, 400 tards , multiple TDs and you focus on "dodged a pick"


mahomes just raped your life

Pete sucks

Played really well. Started with the short stuff and just drove methodically scoring and eating clock. Then when the Faid began to panic and started blitzing O opened up for the long ball.

This is the way.

I didn't focus on anything but golly gee....Patrick is good again.....

This is the way

That was his best game of the season by far. Took what was there. Took shots when the presented themselves. Didn't try and force anything.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

5 tds wasn't quite enough for Pete.

But. Mahomes took a step toward being a legit NFL qb tonight, right Pete? Maybe not just a flash in the pan?

Baby step, but its a step.

5 tds. 400 yards.

There never was anything wrong with Patrick Mahomes II. Other teams out played the Chiefs but he played strong. Can't help if a ball hits the hands of his target and the ball goes in the air to be picked off. He should have four more touchdowns and four less interceptions this season.

Originally Posted by petegz28

Well we are going to see if Mahomes is a legit NFL QB or a flash in the pan gimmick.

For most of the game, other than a couple of isolated moments, he took what was there. And that's what offense looks like when defenses will just give you those easy completions.

We do that every week and we'll smoke mother****ers.

This needs to be quoted until the end of time.

he looked good this game...best all season. The deep balls he missed he missed the right way. Never looked like he was forcing things for the first time really all seasin.

Incredible post. One for the ages

WOW

Now go micro-analyze Lamar Jackson’s struggles vs the 30th ranked Dolphins defense.

He was absolutely "forcing" things. Dude throws a ball that should have been intercepted. Next play? Dude throws a 30-70 ball to a plodding, back-up RB who gains position and gets the tudder. Pat is always going to be Pat and that's a great thing. You know his teammates have his back and are going to respond to a leader that trusts them that much.

Do you think Pete deserves Mahomes?

It's definitely on par with Won't sniff the playoffs

Interdasting post

Pete deserves to fellate a hot curling iron every time Mahomes throws a td.

Mahomes won't sniff 400 yards and 5 TD

Anybody that makes posts like that about somebody who has accomplished what Mahomes has for this franchise doesn’t deserve much of anything. Laughable stuff.

What's funny is you and King and others saying the things you have said up to this point then suddenly acting like you've never said any of it.

You're fake as ****.....I said what I said and the stats supported what I said. You said what you said and now want to pretend you didn't. Suck my cock with your fake bullshit.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Y’all love Mahomes again now or nah?</p>&mdash; Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LRiddickESPN/status/1460092990626492418?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You said what you said and I and everyone else laughed at it. We are still laughing.

Godo for you. At least I have the balls to stand by what I said. Unlike you who talked shit then wants to pretend you didn't.

What are you even taking about now? I’ve been a staunch defender of Mahomes here (to the point that I’ve faced criticism the past few weeks from a few morons).

Uh huh....

Pete is amazing. There’s only one of him for good reason

LMAO

Is he confusing me with somebody else right now or is he just this ****ing stupid?

Uh huh...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes: “You could feel it pre-game. You could feel the energy from the guys. Everybody was ready.”</p>&mdash; Harold R. Kuntz (@HaroldRKuntz3) <a href="https://twitter.com/HaroldRKuntz3/status/1460112236706471949?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Probably both. LMAO

Yeah, you pretend all you want....makes me no difference, obviously

If only some posters saw today coming.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce and Tyreek Hill to NFL defenses: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/SX5yDkH92e">pic.twitter.com/SX5yDkH92e</a></p>&mdash; Patrick Allen (@RPatrickAllen) <a href="https://twitter.com/RPatrickAllen/status/1460074851918663684?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I’m the guy who has literally been arguing with King for weeks defending Mahomes, but continue being the epic clown you are.

How the actual **** can you stand by questioning if Mahomes is a legit NFL qb or a flash in the pan gimmick?

The fact you are unwilling to walk such an unfathomably stupid comment back is ****ing hilariously unbelievable.

If you actually believe that, you're the dumbest **** here and it's not close.

You're first ballot hall of fame ****tard if you stand by that bullshit.

K...so either you're full of shit or you've ignored the obvious...bravo! :clap:

Clownery.

Mahomes is too generational to all of the sudden fall off a cliff.

Nah 3 seasons of work could clearly be a flash in the pan.

Show us the posts, pete.

It's pretty easy. Click on his name and then click on "Find More Posts by KC_Connection."

The fact that that you actually pondered whether Mahomes is a legit NFL QB... man, I don't want to be mean.

You mean breaking NFL records, winning a Super Bowl, and getting an MVP are not a flash in the pan type thing?

I have since said my statement was over the top but I wouldn't want any of these stand up, know it all, football geniuses to acknowledge such...


Anyhow...

I was mistaken. It wasn’t just other fanbases. It was everyone.

Fake ass, mother ****er....

I dunno Patrick really got by playing backyard football and still needs to learn being a real NFL QB.

It won’t be easy. I don’t think I’ve ever even criticized Mahomes at all on this forum apart from some individual bad decisions during a game. He’s essentially my “LeBron” of the NFL (a reference anyone here should understand if they have frequented an NBA thread here over the past two decades).

Imagine actually believing that a lowly "backyard football" quarterback could go to 3 straight AFCCG, NFL MVP, SUPERBOWL MVP, SUPERBOWL CHAMPIONSHIP, and back to back sb appearances.

and only NOW, has the league figured it out, and now Mahomes has to earn how to play qb.

The stupidity level is off the ****ing chart. It's troll territory.

I was saying searching for posts is easy so he couldn't invoke that excuse.

I know you wouldn't trash Mahomes.

Except for when you said what you said, you didn't say what you said and even if you said what you said you didn't mean what you said...

Clownery.

Oh I know. It wouldn’t be difficult if such posts actually existed. Sadly for him, they do not.

It's just baffling to me that Mahomes had the unheard of body of work that he had in his first three seasons and Pete and DTVietnam had the doubts that they had about him and doubled down. Both of whom I think are great posters, I just don't know why there has to be a line in the sand or doubling down about things said in the heat of the moment.

Hell, I think we've all made some doozy posts on Gamedays (my target on gamedays is Andy Reid -- and you can find plenty of awful takes I made about Andy and Tyreek over the years). It's okay to have overreactions in moments like that, I just don't understand the doubling down aspect of things.

I come here for the discussion. They create a lot of it. We had some lean times where this place was a ghost town on Sundays in the Pioli years and they keep this place churning now.

And this is what the Chiefs were able to do last year.

When we are not turning over the football, the Chiefs are GOOD at moving the ball down the field methodically.

Turns out fast guys are good at more than just running verticals.

I don’t know the answer. I thought Pete was trolling but that doesn’t appear to be the case.

I personally found the Mahomes criticism absolutely bizarre myself around this forum considering what he’s accomplished. The numbers weren’t there for a few weeks for the first time in his career, but he was always going to be fine. There was never any real reason to doubt that.

He had a couple bad games. Big ****ing whoop. Most people acknowledged it. What we DIDN'T do, however, was consider that Mahomes could just be a flash in the pan QB.

How many bad games did Manning have in the first 4 years of his career? How about ****ing Brady? He had a million bad games. Still does. Just look at today.

You know what it is? You're a kneejerk pussy. If the stats support what you said, then the stats support questioning the starter value of every QB in NFL history

:drool: