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Delano 04-06-2024 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17473698)
I agree with this which is why I wouldn't want to spend a 1st round pick on a guy that plays tackle that is not expected to start.

2nd round is where I would look at drafting a guy you think is close not quite ready, but has incredible talent and measurable.

Normally you want a 2nd round pick to start but because of the value of LT and how expensive they are when they can play I would be fine with a 2nd round spent this way.

I printed this post off and sent it to Veach. Thanks for sharing!

MahomesMagic 04-06-2024 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Warpaint69 (Post 17473707)
While true, that 1st round 5th year option is a nice piece in the back pocket for a pretty cheap controllable 5th year at pick 32 vs no option in the 2nd round

True.

I personally just think a 1st rounder should be expected to start.

And for the record, I loved FAU as a prospect. Didn't think he would be used as little as he was.

MahomesMagic 04-06-2024 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Delano (Post 17473709)
I printed this post off and sent it to Veach. Thanks for sharing!

You are allowed to think for yourself if you wish.

LMAO

Warpaint69 04-06-2024 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17473711)
True.

I personally just think a 1st rounder should be expected to start.

And for the record, I loved FAU as a prospect. Didn't think he would be used as little as he was.

It can go either way, could be a trading point for a team picking high in the 2nd to jump back in for that 5th year option on a player they covet.

Warpaint69 04-06-2024 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17473640)
Felix was a very raw player who has potential for a high ceiling. He reminds me a lot of Dee Ford (minus the back injury concerns). He was on the ground a lot in college and needed to get stronger.

Like Dee Ford, his athleticism was really good. His 6.94 3 cone would have been first for DE’s at the combine this year and his 20 shuttle would have been 3rd.

He was always a developmental pick

Looking at the pass rushers in this draft especially first day, probably was wise for Veach to draft FAU in my opinion

staylor26 04-06-2024 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Warpaint69 (Post 17473719)
Looking at the pass rushers in this draft especially first day, probably was wise for Veach to draft FAU in my opinion

Good point. This EDGE class is terrible. Another reason to re-sign Danna too.

Bowser 04-06-2024 02:25 PM

I chuckle at people losing sight of how Spags predicates his scheme on having four pass rushers on the defensive line whenever possible. He always has.

On any obvious passing down, you're d-line is going to go (from left to right)
- Karlaftis
- Jones
- Danna
- FAU

That lineup will bring pressure, and it's worth the price tag Danna came with. It also allows our defensive backfield to play the way they play with the safeties showing different looks and the corners being able to play tight man-to-man, not to mention the blitzes they dream up. IMHO, of course.

JPH83 04-06-2024 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17473720)
Good point. This EDGE class is terrible. Another reason to re-sign Danna too.

Yep, totally agree. I get DJ's point re drafting guys to replace players like Danna, but assuming we're not going DE until at least R3...it's not that easy to get an immediate or even long-term contributor. At that price he's worth it.

Skyy God 04-06-2024 04:09 PM

Love this move.

Danna worked his ass off to develop.

RealSNR 04-06-2024 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17473711)
True.

I personally just think a 1st rounder should be expected to start.

And for the record, I loved FAU as a prospect. Didn't think he would be used as little as he was.


Yeah **** Mahomes that piece of shit not starting his first year first rounder. Wasted a whole year paying him to do nothing!

MahomesMagic 04-06-2024 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17473835)
Yeah **** Mahomes that piece of shit not starting his first year first rounder. Wasted a whole year paying him to do nothing!

QB is not the same as other positions.

And usually if you spend a high first round pick on a QB they will play at some point. The only reason Mahomes didn't was because Andy Reid decided Alex Smith was going to start every game, no matter what.

It was also reported that Mahomes looked better than Alex fairly quickly. So the fact that Mahomes didn't take over had nothing to do with his talent or readiness to play.

My belief is Mahomes probably needed 4-6 games to master enough of the offense to be comfortable starting.

Rausch 04-06-2024 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 17473300)
Depth was one of the major reasons we won back to back SB , we can go into the draft pretty comfortably knowing we have a SB calibre team and for the first time in a few seasons we didn’t really get weaker but most of our main threats in division and out did.

And with that said I'd love to grab Guerendo in the 5th or 6th to pair with Pacheco. Same basic set of attributes (good top speed, very physical, one cut and go) but a much bigger natural build that should hold up to the punishment better. Guerendo looks a bit lean with a build that could add some good muscle and size in an NFL program.

We also need some youth with upside at DT, G, and clearly LT...

Rausch 04-06-2024 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17473680)
Hopefully he can show something while Omenihu works his way back from injury though.

Fingers crossed. He's really young and everyone knew he was raw coming out. This wasn't unexpected. We got really lucky with the Greek Phreak learning on the job year 1 and really producing after week 8. That's not often the case for the more raw guys...

Rausch 04-06-2024 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17473867)
QB is not the same as other positions.

And usually if you spend a high first round pick on a QB they will play at some point. The only reason Mahomes didn't was because Andy Reid decided Alex Smith was going to start every game, no matter what.
.

Mahomes didn't start because Andy knows how to groom a QB.

Sitting a guy year 1 works out more often than it doesn't. Guys aren't starting more in year 1 because they're more ready or mature - it's because GM's and HC's are trying to save their jobs...

MahomesMagic 04-06-2024 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 17473878)
Mahomes didn't start because Andy knows how to groom a QB.

Sitting a guy year 1 works out more often than it doesn't. Guys aren't starting more in year 1 because they're more ready or mature - it's because GM's and HC's are trying to save their jobs...

Too small of a sample size to say.

And also the QB's that can sit for 1 year are on better teams like the Chiefs and Packers.

Mahomes could have played his first year. He didn't need to sit the whole time, it was Andy being loyal to Alex and wanting a smooth transition more than Mahomes needing to be "developed". That was a myth.


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