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GloryDayz 01-26-2019 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14073885)
I'm not sure how long people have to see Berry NOT play to understand that he's done. He's finished. he will not play meaningful football again. It's over. He was a fine player, and I think he's an excellent human, his body has just endured too much and it's done with football. The financial cap aspect as it relates to the team is irritating, but you can't blame the guy because it's not like he's going to have another payday like this.

He'll probably go into coaching, and he'll be good at it, because unlike a lot of star players, he wasn't just getting by on athletic talent, he was smart, smart, smart.

But as a player, he's done.

He was smart, smart, smart, enough to get paid. I pray he never coaches a Chiefs team because as much as he might know about playing safety on the field, but I'm not confident enough he can teach those skills, or leadership, to other players, and we can't take another chance on him being another post-contract dud.

Frazod 01-26-2019 11:13 AM

I've seriously learned to hate this guy. Everything he's doing is a clear and obvious attempt to bleed as much money from the organization as possible. He'll schedule any surgery he gets to coincide with optimal ****age to the team and optimal benefit for him, because clearly the millions he's already been paid to be a ****ing doormat for the past two years don't count.

Resigning him will go down as one of the greatest blunders this team has ever made.

He'd certainly make a great players union adviser, wouldn't he? Well, him or whoever thinks for him.

crispystl 01-26-2019 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RJ (Post 14070014)
I have to wonder though if Brady saw the flag and knew it was off sides. He may have never thrown the pick without the flag. Not that it matters.

It caught the corner of my eye immediately. The ref gave it a good ride.

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GloryDayz 01-26-2019 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14074151)
I've seriously learned to hate this guy. Everything he's doing is a clear and obvious attempt to bleed as much money from the organization as possible. He'll schedule any surgery he gets to coincide with optimal ****age to the team and optimal benefit for him, because clearly the millions he's already been paid to be a ****ing doormat for the past two years don't count.

Resigning him will go down as one of the greatest blunders this team has ever made.

He'd certainly make a great players union adviser, wouldn't he? Well, him or whoever thinks for him.

After what he's done to this franchise, I hope they realize that they almost NEVER "pay" players with the exception of, maybe, the QB.

Berry should have been this franchise's wake up call that the vast majority of players, and to some extent all of them, really aren't there for the team, they're there for their paycheck. We all know that, we all say "football is a business" way too much, so "we" don't need to be reminded, we need to hope that Clark, Andy, and Veach remember it when it when a player who had a good year comes to the office with hat in hand.

And TBH, I'm not sure they should pay PH too much either. NOT BECAUSE HE ISN'T AWESOME, he's AWESOME (!!!!!), but because his O-line combined with his style isn't going to have him survive 10-12 years. So even if they take the step of paying PH, they need to be aware that he's NOT a pocket passer, part of that might be because he has no choice, but his pocket sucks.

Otter 01-26-2019 11:59 AM

Memba Berrys?!?!?

https://media1.tenor.com/images/cc4e...temid=11218434

Mecca 01-26-2019 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 14074202)
After what he's done to this franchise, I hope the realize that they almost NEVER "pay" players with the exception of, maybe, the QB.

Berry should have been this franchise's wake up call that the vast majority of players, and to some extent all of them, really aren't there for the team, they're there for their paycheck. We all know that, we all say "football is a business" way too much, so "we" don't need to be reminded, we need to hope that Clark, Andy, and Veach remember it when it when a player who had a good year comes to the office with hat in hand.

And TBH, I'm not sure they should pay PH too much either. NOT BECAUSE HE ISN'T AWESOME, he's AWESOME (!!!!!), but because his O-line combined with his style isn't going to have him survive 10-12 years. So even if they take the step of paying PH, they need to be aware that he's NOT a pocket passer, part of that might be because he has no choice, but his pocket sucks.

It's WHO you pay, anyone with a half a brain would tell you a dude who's had a blown knee and went through chemo may not be the best long term investment.

Mecca 01-26-2019 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by old_geezer (Post 14073938)
Haven't really followed this thread so someone else might have already brought up this point but, if Berry is going to get surgery to correct his problem, why isn't he already in the recuperating stage? He can't start recovering till after he's had the procedure and any delay makes it less likely he will contribute in any meaningful way next year. :shrug:

He wants to make sure he can't pass a physical in the offseason so he can't be cut.

GloryDayz 01-26-2019 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14074257)
It's WHO you pay, anyone with a half a brain would tell you a dude who's had a blown knee and went through chemo may not be the best long term investment.

Well those were details/signs the Chiefs appear to have overlooked.

Bowser 01-26-2019 12:31 PM

So he's waiting until May to get the surgery on the Haglund's? Did he care to explain WHY he was waiting until then to do it? (no, I've not kept up with thread, obv)

Mecca 01-26-2019 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 14074266)
Well those were details/signs the Chiefs appear to have overlooked.

You mean Clark Hunt? Cause the way all that went down I don't think Dorsey was planning on keeping him.

But Berry of course played the PR game to paint the Chiefs as assholes and then there ya go..

I've always been someone who thinks players should get all they can but as a fan of this team it chaps my ass that Eric Berry has been the highest paid player at his position since the day he walked in the league the Chiefs stood by him even paying him when they didn't have to...and now we get this.

But ultimately it's on the team. They let him play them and have continued to do it for 2 years.

Mecca 01-26-2019 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14074275)
So he's waiting until May to get the surgery on the Haglund's? Did he care to explain WHY he was waiting until then to do it? (no, I've not kept up with thread, obv)

It won't be May, it'll probably be like end of February, he's going to make sure he can't pass that physical so he can milk the team out of another highly paid year.

Bowser 01-26-2019 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14074278)
It won't be May, it'll probably be like end of February, he's going to make sure he can't pass that physical so he can milk the team out of another highly paid year.

Got it. June 1st cut it is.

As a fan knowing what a healthy Berry brings to a defense - that's annoying as hell. He should have gotten it taken care of this week if he had any intention of helping the Chiefs in '19.

gblowfish 01-26-2019 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14073885)
I'm not sure how long people have to see Berry NOT play to understand that he's done. He's finished. he will not play meaningful football again. It's over. He was a fine player, and I think he's an excellent human, his body has just endured too much and it's done with football. The financial cap aspect as it relates to the team is irritating, but you can't blame the guy because it's not like he's going to have another payday like this.

He'll probably go into coaching, and he'll be good at it, because unlike a lot of star players, he wasn't just getting by on athletic talent, he was smart, smart, smart.

But as a player, he's done.

I also think he's done as a player. And why would he want to coach? Coaches put in 12 to 14 hour days seven days a week during the season. He's got enough money for ten lifetimes. Why do something where you have to work your ass off when you're already a multimillionaire?

Mecca 01-26-2019 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14074280)
Got it. June 1st cut it is.

As a fan knowing what a healthy Berry brings to a defense - that's annoying as hell. He should have gotten it taken care of this week if he had any intention of helping the Chiefs in '19.

Nope...if he can't pass a physical in March I think it is, something like 80% of his contract becomes guaranteed so you save basically nothing cutting him no matter when it is.

Mecca 01-26-2019 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 14074286)
I also think he's done as a player. And why would he want to coach? Coaches put in 12 to 14 hour days seven days a week during the season. He's got enough money for ten lifetimes. Why do something where you have to work your ass off when you're already a multimillionaire?

He'd be more likely to go be a VP in the players union, dude knows how to work a team for money.


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