Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13994669)

i stayed home and ate corn puffs in front of the computer

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13994672)

yes

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 13994674)

Thanks. If they lose?

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13994655)

Riddle me this one.

The message last off-season was that the defense’s problems were being blamed on personnel. Too old, too slow. So we get rid of a bunch of old guys, bring in a bunch of young guys, and yet the same problems remain. The players look lost, they look unmotivated, they look defeated. And so some of those same old players who were previously cut, were actually brought back because they ‘knew the defense’, blah blah blah. And they still suck too.

You’re blaming Veach when odds are, 90% of the defense’s problems are related to coaching.

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 13994674)

Thanks. If they lose?

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 13994679)

I agree with this -- players looking lost and not getting the system and not playing as well as they have in other systems all seems to point to what everyone suspects is the problem...

Originally Posted by Tornado (Post 13994660)

Dorsey is already turning around Cleveland like he did here. Veech has brought in scrubs

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 13994664)

Probably been posted, but what are the ramifications of this game? If the Chiefs win, HFA and a bye?

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13994687)

Oh you mean the team that had shit coaching and turned it around after they were fired? I see now.

Dorsey had an astronomical amount of cap space to work with this offseason and the best set of draft choices he could possibly have. So forgive me if I’m hesitant to bow down to the guy for getting the Browns to nearly .500 when they had the worst coach of all time fired earlier in the year.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13994688)

Life or death.

Originally Posted by Tornado (Post 13994689)

kudos to dorsey

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13994692)

Yep, how about that KPass pick. He’s the GOAT!

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13994687)

Oh you mean the team that had shit coaching and turned it around after they were fired? I see now.

Dorsey had an astronomical amount of cap space to work with this offseason and the best set of draft choices he could possibly have. So forgive me if I’m hesitant to bow down to the guy for getting the Browns to nearly .500 when they had the worst coach of all time fired earlier in the year.

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 13994697)

I never understood why Dorsey stayed with Jackson.